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#4611 [2004-06-22 14:35:17]

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by physco1117

Who really was the most famous Samurai in history/ Japan? Is there
such one? Who?

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#4613 [2004-06-22 16:18:22]

Re: [samuraihistory] Question?

by ltdomer98

--- physco1117 <physco1117@...> wrote:
> Who really was the most famous Samurai in history/
> Japan? Is there
> such one? Who?

Think about what you're asking here--it's like asking
"Who was the most famous soldier in US History?"

George Washington, since he was the commander, and
later was first President? Robert E. Lee? Grant or
Eisenhower, who ended their respective wars and went
on to be Presidents? Audie Murphy, because he was the
most decorated? Benedict Arnold, for being a great
general, and then betraying the US? Patton, because
there was a movie about him, and he was the most
kick-ass? MacArthur? Westmoreland, for losing?

There are any number of ways to answer your question,
depending on what you are looking for. Do you want to
know about samurai who were particularly good
duelists? Try Miyamoto Musashi, Tsukuhara Bokuden, or
Kamiizumi Nobutsuna. Great Samurai Generals? Try Oda
Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Tokugawa Ieyasu,
Minamoto Yoshitsune, Minamoto Yoshinaka, Takeda
Shingen, Uesugi Kenshin, Date Masamune, Mori Motonari,
Ashikaga Takauji, Nitta Yoshisada, Kusunoki Masashige,
Taira Kiyomori....and on, and on...and on....

Samurai who were famous for loyalty? Yamanaka
Shikanosuke, the 47 Ronin (look under "Chushingura"),
Hashiba/Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Benkei, Shimizu Muneharu,
The Tsuchiya family, etc., etc....

Samurai who were famous for being inept or for not
being loyal, etc: Akechi Mitsuhide, any of the
Ashikaga after Yoshinori, The Akamatsu, Matsunaga
Hisahide and Miyoshi Nagayoshi, Anayama Baisetsu...

Samurai who were most often the subject of
movies/plays/TV shows/Manga/anime? Wow...way too many
to list.

Refine your question and you'll get plenty of
opinions, probably all conflicting, but at least it
will give you an idea of where to look.



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#4617 [2004-06-22 19:44:29]

Re: [samuraihistory] Question?

by cepooooo

On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:35 AM, physco1117 wrote:

> Who really was the most famous Samurai in history/ Japan? Is there
> such one? Who?

Oh definitely Katsumoto!
Haven't you seen the movie? It's very popular!
Not only he was the most famous, but he was the last!!
(Or was Tom Cruise the last one... hmmmmm...)

cepo :oO


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#4621 [2004-06-22 22:11:25]

Re: [samuraihistory] Question?

by ltdomer98

--- Cesare Polenghi <cepo@...> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:35 AM, physco1117 wrote:
>
> > Who really was the most famous Samurai in history/
> Japan? Is there
> > such one? Who?
>
> Oh definitely Katsumoto!
> Haven't you seen the movie? It's very popular!
> Not only he was the most famous, but he was the
> last!!
> (Or was Tom Cruise the last one... hmmmmm...)
>
> cepo :oO

Dang it, everytime I come up with some smartass
remark, I get yelled at...how come you get to be the
smartass this time??




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#4623 [2004-06-22 23:12:58]

Re: [samuraihistory] Question?

by cepooooo

On Jun 22, 2004, at 7:11 PM, Nate Ledbetter wrote:

> --- Cesare Polenghi <cepo@...> wrote:
> > On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:35 AM, physco1117 wrote:
> >
> > > Who really was the most famous Samurai in history/
> > Japan? Is there
> > >  such one? Who?
> >
> > Oh definitely Katsumoto!
> > Haven't you seen the movie? It's very popular!
> > Not only he was the most famous, but he was the
> > last!!
> > (Or was Tom Cruise the last one... hmmmmm...)
> >
> > cepo :oO
>
> Dang it, everytime I come up with some smartass
> remark, I get yelled at...how come you get to be the
> smartass this time??

Buhahahaha... true... true... how unfair!! :oO

Perhaps the bias is due to the fact that some people here knows that I
am European, and as you know we Europeans are famous for getting away
smoothly even when we act like complete morons
;o)

Anyway, SORRY!!! I WAS JUST KIDDING!! Thought it was too tempting...
couldn't resist... the question was too cute...
cepo


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