Japanese Samurai History - Who was Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi

#1338 [2003-01-05 08:24:50]

Who was Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi

by wahmeister

I just joined the group and wondered if perhaps someone
would know who this man was in Japanese history? His name is
Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi or (Koumitsushi).
Thanks, LB

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#1341 [2003-01-05 23:23:19]

Question...

by mayalan

Hi!!
got a question: do you think that without the teppo could Nobunaga won the battle of Nagashino?
Thanks.
Edwin Angulo.

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#1343 [2003-01-06 00:39:53]

Re: [samuraihistory] Question...

by ltdomer98

Yes.

Firearms were an aid, not the deciding factor. The
terrain was not conducive to a Takeda charge, the
combination of the Rengo-gawa river, the mud, and the
Oda positions in the foothills, combined with the
palisade, made for a great disruptor. The effect with
the firearms was definitely a huge factor, but
considering the Oda had the terrain advantage in
ADDITION to outnumbering the Takeda 2 to 1, I firmly
believe that they would have won. Would it have been
as lopsided? No, it would have been much closer. As it
was, the fighting was very fierce, and the Oda had
over 6,000 casualties as it was.

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> got a question: do you think that without the teppo
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> Thanks.
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#1345 [2003-01-06 07:40:51]

Re: Who was Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi

by sinseism

Akemasite Omedetou Gozaimasu(Happy New Year!)

Goro Nyudo Koumitsushi...He is the great swordsmith in Kamakura Era
though I don't know much about him.

Shinsei

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#1347 [2003-01-06 08:36:50]

Re: Who was Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi

by sinseism

Adding to my last message,Goro Nyudo is more famous by the
name "Masamune",known as the best brand of old swords.

Of course not Date Masamune

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#1348 [2003-01-06 10:42:23]

Re: Who was Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi

by wahmeister

Sinsei,
Thank You for your help.

I have noticed that Koumitsu and Kiyomitsu appear to be the same name.
If I am correct, was the "Kou" used to set Masamune apart from the
Many Kiyomitsu's that came later? Thank You, LB

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Shinsei "
wrote:

> Adding to my last message,Goro Nyudo is more famous by the
> name "Masamune",known as the best brand of old swords.
>
> Of course not Date Masamune

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#1351 [2003-01-06 19:58:03]

Re: Who was Goro Nyudo Kiyomitsushi

by sinseism

Hello.
I heard Goro Nyudo Masamune(Koumitsushi) had rarely carved his name
in his swords.But in some of his,the name "Koumitsushi" were used.

No wonder"Kiyo" in Fujiwara Kiyomitsu may sound "Kou" to non-
Japanese ,but its Kanji is different from "Kou"'s in"Koumitsushi".

Regards

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "wahmeister "
wrote:

> Sinsei,
> Thank You for your help.
>
> I have noticed that Koumitsu and Kiyomitsu appear to be the same

name.

> If I am correct, was the "Kou" used to set Masamune apart from the
> Many Kiyomitsu's that came later? Thank You, LB
>
>

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#1352 [2003-01-07 04:29:10]

Royal armouries UK

by umaryu

Hi all

I was at the royal armouries Leeds UK yesterday. as
always i took loads of photos.

The sword cabinet has changed since my last visit and
now contains part of a provate collection. This
included 2 swords by Gassan Sadakazu and Gassan
Sadakatsu. The Sadakatsu was made to commemorate the
birth of emperor Akihito.

My favourite was the Nagamaki Naoshi which was
converted to a katana. Made in around 1300, it had a
dotanuki style kissaki.

Many of you have privately had photos from me before,
but to save recieving and sending laods of emails I
have put them all into zipped files on my web site for
you to download.

http://www.hanako.co.uk/Armouries/Armouries.htm

Have fun with them

paul

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#1353 [2003-01-07 00:06:17]

Re: [samuraihistory] Question...

by mayalan

My thanks, i tought so...
Edwin.

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#1357 [2003-01-07 20:32:37]

Re: to Senseism about koumitsushi

by wahmeister

Sensei,
Happy New Year to you also!
You have been most helpful and I just want to thank
you. I really enjoyed seeing your picture on the
profile page! Wow!
I have a link of a picture of some kanji and
would like to know if this is the correct spelling for
Koumitsushi. I would be grateful for your help.
Thank You, L. Berry
If you want to write me off the list, my addres is:
wahmeister@...
Kanji link:
http://home.i-plus.net/thorpe/kanji.jpg

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Shinsei "
wrote:

> Hello.
> I heard Goro Nyudo Masamune(Koumitsushi) had rarely carved his name
> in his swords.But in some of his,the name "Koumitsushi" were used.
>
> No wonder"Kiyo" in Fujiwara Kiyomitsu may sound "Kou" to non-
> Japanese ,but its Kanji is different from "Kou"'s in"Koumitsushi".
>
> Regards
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "wahmeister

> wrote:
> > Sinsei,
> > Thank You for your help.
> >
> > I have noticed that Koumitsu and Kiyomitsu appear to be the same
> name.
> > If I am correct, was the "Kou" used to set Masamune apart from the
> > Many Kiyomitsu's that came later? Thank You, LB
> >
> >

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#1358 [2003-01-07 22:11:40]

Re: to Senseism about koumitsushi

by sinseism

Hi, LB

the Kanji in the link means "Kiyomitsu",not Koumitsushi.If you want
the Kanji for Koumitsushi,I will show you later somehow.

By the way,Thank you for seeing my profile.
My name is Shinsei ,not Sensei.But the word "sensei" means master or
teacher,which makes me feel great.It's all right to call me sensei if
you wantto.lol!Actually I have a tutoring work,and am sometimes
called sensei...

Shinsei

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#1360 [2003-01-08 22:22:41]

Re: to Senseism about koumitsushi

by wahmeister

Shinsei,
I have been calling you sensei out of respect. Since I am the one
asking the questions and you are the one answering, you are my sensei.
I appreciate your help in everything. Have a great year and I hope to
talk with you some more sometime.
L.G.B.

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Shinsei "
wrote:

> Hi, LB
>
> the Kanji in the link means "Kiyomitsu",not Koumitsushi.If you want
> the Kanji for Koumitsushi,I will show you later somehow.
>
> By the way,Thank you for seeing my profile.
> My name is Shinsei ,not Sensei.But the word "sensei" means master or
> teacher,which makes me feel great.It's all right to call me sensei

> you wantto.lol!Actually I have a tutoring work,and am sometimes
> called sensei...
>
> Shinsei

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