--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Natalie"wrote:
>
> I was born in Japan, Japanese mother, caucasian father. My mother
told
> me that her family history was samurai. She also told me about a
curse
> placed on her/our family for the many deaths caused by them. I am
> curious to know if this was indeed true and if it was just our
family
> that was cursed or all samurai that was cursed. I will be honest to
> say that the curse is still intact and still affects us. I do not
want
> to go into detail, but is it possible to end this suffering on our
> family or is this something that will plague us forever?
>
> Are you for real? (Just thought I'd get that in before Tony)The only reason you got there first is because I'm still
>of
> Are you for real? (Just thought I'd get that in before Tony)
>
> That aside, I've noticed that Japanese families have this concept
> a "family curse" that I've never seen in the US (except inmovies),
> and have obsessions that they are afflicted by it, and have thierat
> little "put the salt on the door" rituals to keep the evil spirits
> bay. I've seen it firsthand (the obsessions, not the results).Not
> much more to say, other than I don't think family curses arereal...
> at all, but that is my own possibly eccentric and idiosyncraticit
> opinion. To be cliche, the more you believe in it, the more real
> becomes.more
>
> I don't think John Edwards posts to the list, but someone here
> attuned to the supernatural might be able to help you out morethan I.
>wrote:
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Natalie"
> >mother
> > I was born in Japan, Japanese mother, caucasian father. My
> tolda
> > me that her family history was samurai. She also told me about
> curseam
> > placed on her/our family for the many deaths caused by them. I
> > curious to know if this was indeed true and if it was just ourhonest to
> family
> > that was cursed or all samurai that was cursed. I will be
> > say that the curse is still intact and still affects us. I donot
> wantour
> > to go into detail, but is it possible to end this suffering on
> > family or is this something that will plague us forever?
> >
>
>Yes. Uh-huh.
> -Yes, this is for real. She never told us kids til we were older
> and could understand. The Japanese culture is ridden with many
> strange concepts, my mother believes some really strange things.
> But if I wasn't affected, I wouldn't be asking. I do not believe in
> most things, but this is not a joke.I also have 2 grown daughters
> that are affected by this curse. Also my brother and 2 sisters.
> It's not possible for all of us to have common ailments, all
> obtained in different manners. I still have family in Japan, they
> have come her to the states and the language barrier is a true
> obstacle. The ways of life that they have is so different than what
> we have here. So don't make light of it, it just shows your
> ignorance.
> All I want is to know if it's possible to reverse it.Have you tried salt?
> -Yes, this is for real..... ah.
> She never told us kids til we were olderNo, it shows that I live in the real world where the sky is
> and could understand. The Japanese culture is ridden with many
> strange concepts, my mother believes some really strange things.
> But if I wasn't affected, I wouldn't be asking. I do not believe in
> most things, but this is not a joke.I also have 2 grown daughters
> that are affected by this curse. Also my brother and 2 sisters.
> It's not possible for all of us to have common ailments, all
> obtained in different manners. I still have family in Japan, they
> have come her to the states and the language barrier is a true
> obstacle. The ways of life that they have is so different than what
> we have here. So don't make light of it, it just shows your
> ignorance.
> All I want is to know if it's possible to reverse it.I'd recommend contacting that Crossing Over guy. He's more
> Kitsuno wrote:I suspect that this is a fine story which makes the family feel better
>
> > Are you for real? (Just thought I'd get that in before Tony)
>
> The only reason you got there first is because I'm still
> banging my head on the desk.
>of
> Are you for real? (Just thought I'd get that in before Tony)
>
> That aside, I've noticed that Japanese families have this concept
> a "family curse" that I've never seen in the US (except inmovies),
> and have obsessions that they are afflicted by it, and have thierat
> little "put the salt on the door" rituals to keep the evil spirits
> bay. I've seen it firsthand (the obsessions, not the results).Not
> much more to say, other than I don't think family curses arereal...
> at all, but that is my own possibly eccentric and idiosyncraticit
> opinion. To be cliche, the more you believe in it, the more real
> becomes.more
>
> I don't think John Edwards posts to the list, but someone here
> attuned to the supernatural might be able to help you out morethan I.
>wrote:
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Natalie"
> >mother
> > I was born in Japan, Japanese mother, caucasian father. My
> tolda
> > me that her family history was samurai. She also told me about
> curseam
> > placed on her/our family for the many deaths caused by them. I
> > curious to know if this was indeed true and if it was just ourhonest to
> family
> > that was cursed or all samurai that was cursed. I will be
> > say that the curse is still intact and still affects us. I donot
> wantour
> > to go into detail, but is it possible to end this suffering on
> > family or is this something that will plague us forever?---
> >
>
On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Natalie wrote:
> I was born in Japan, Japanese mother, caucasian father. My mother
> told
> me that her family history was samurai. She also told me about a
> curse
> placed on her/our family for the many deaths caused by them. I am
> curious to know if this was indeed true and if it was just our family
> that was cursed or all samurai that was cursed. I will be honest to
> say that the curse is still intact and still affects us. I do not
> want
> to go into detail, but is it possible to end this suffering on our
> family or is this something that will plague us forever?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Holy XXXX my family must be cursed too!Warning 2. No reason for profanity.
>just as
> Natalie-
> Let me say that I am no believer in curses myself, and I was
> skeptical as others who have already responded. One way to lookat
> this though, would be to accept it as a very cool way to find outcan
> about your Japanese heritage.
> You need to look into your family history and see if you
> identify the people or events responsible for the curse. Then ofto know
> course you'll have to learn about esoteric religious practice in
> Japan, which ceremonies of exorcism have been performed and which
> ones might help to lift the curse.
> You'll want to study the language and necessarily will have
> your cousins better. this might make a cool documentary donethan
> correctly or a good book. The idea at least is more interesting
> many of the "I lived in Japan" books out there.Although I agree with this, I think she would be better off as an
> I was born in Japan, Japanese mother, caucasian father. My mother toldCan I ask which "Han" 藩 your samurai ancester belonged to?
> me that her family history was samurai.