> I am having trouble with the exact meaning of a term"Masking" is the same as "guarding" or "covering" in a
> used in the
> book "Sekigahara 1600 - The final struggle for
> power". In the section
> called "Ueda Castle", on page 43 the sentence reads
> "He was under
> orders to "mask" the loyalist stronghold of Ueda
> castle...". I have an
> idea what is meant by bask but could anyone (author
> included) clarify
> that term for me?
>
> Also, the Sanada Masayuki is the same as the Takeda
> general... correct?
>____________________________________________________
>
> --- Michael <takayama_hara@...> wrote:
>
> > I am having trouble with the exact meaning of a
> term
> > used in the
> > book "Sekigahara 1600 - The final struggle for
> > power". In the section
> > called "Ueda Castle", on page 43 the sentence
> reads
> > "He was under
> > orders to "mask" the loyalist stronghold of Ueda
> > castle...". I have an
> > idea what is meant by bask but could anyone
> (author
> > included) clarify
> > that term for me?
> >
> > Also, the Sanada Masayuki is the same as the
> Takeda
> > general... correct?
>
> "Masking" is the same as "guarding" or "covering" in
> a
> modern military doctrinal context--the idea was to
> leave a force strong enough to prevent the Sanada
> from
> leaving Ueda Castle and attacking the the Tokugawa
> main bottle in the rear.
>
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> So he was performing a screening action... but heEssentially, yes--he was supposed to leave a covering
> was
> suppose to continue moving and caused trouble when
> he
> actually stopped and laid seige.
> So he was supposed to pass by, but keep Sanada inUm, yeah, though not sure I agree with that football
> check (like a fake pass in football)?
>____________________________________________________
> --- Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- Michael <takayama_hara@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I am having trouble with the exact meaning of a
> > term
> > > used in the
> > > book "Sekigahara 1600 - The final struggle for
> > > power". In the section
> > > called "Ueda Castle", on page 43 the sentence
> > reads
> > > "He was under
> > > orders to "mask" the loyalist stronghold of Ueda
> > > castle...". I have an
> > > idea what is meant by bask but could anyone
> > (author
> > > included) clarify
> > > that term for me?
> > >
> > > Also, the Sanada Masayuki is the same as the
> > Takeda
> > > general... correct?
> >
> > "Masking" is the same as "guarding" or "covering"
> in
> > a
> > modern military doctrinal context--the idea was to
> > leave a force strong enough to prevent the Sanada
> > from
> > leaving Ueda Castle and attacking the the Tokugawa
> > main bottle in the rear.
> >
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> So he was performing a screening action... but heEssentially, yes--he was supposed to leave a covering
> was
> suppose to continue moving and caused trouble when
> he
> actually stopped and laid seige.
> So he was supposed to pass by, but keep Sanada inUm, yeah, though not sure I agree with that football
> check (like a fake pass in football)?
>____________________________________________________
> --- Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- Michael <takayama_hara@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I am having trouble with the exact meaning of a
> > term
> > > used in the
> > > book "Sekigahara 1600 - The final struggle for
> > > power". In the section
> > > called "Ueda Castle", on page 43 the sentence
> > reads
> > > "He was under
> > > orders to "mask" the loyalist stronghold of Ueda
> > > castle...". I have an
> > > idea what is meant by bask but could anyone
> > (author
> > > included) clarify
> > > that term for me?
> > >
> > > Also, the Sanada Masayuki is the same as the
> > Takeda
> > > general... correct?
> >
> > "Masking" is the same as "guarding" or "covering"
> in
> > a
> > modern military doctrinal context--the idea was to
> > leave a force strong enough to prevent the Sanada
> > from
> > leaving Ueda Castle and attacking the the Tokugawa
> > main bottle in the rear.
> >
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> --- Michael Wood <takayama_hara@...> wrote:
>
> > So he was performing a screening action... but he
> > was
> > suppose to continue moving and caused trouble when
> > he
> > actually stopped and laid seige.
>
> Essentially, yes--he was supposed to leave a
> covering
> force (bigger than a screening force--more stopping
> power, US Army doctrinally speaking) and continue
> with
> his main body to the battlefield at Sekigahara. The
> trouble was that he decided to take Ueda-jo, and
> missed the battle at Sekigahara altogether.
>
>
> > So he was supposed to pass by, but keep Sanada in
> > check (like a fake pass in football)?
>
> Um, yeah, though not sure I agree with that football
> reference. It wasn't a misdirection kind of
> thing--he
> didn't fake one way, and go another. It's more like
> he was supposed to send the fullback to block the
> linebacker (Sanada), but sent the whole offensive
> line.
>
> >
> > --- Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Michael <takayama_hara@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am having trouble with the exact meaning of
> a
> > > term
> > > > used in the
> > > > book "Sekigahara 1600 - The final struggle for
> > > > power". In the section
> > > > called "Ueda Castle", on page 43 the sentence
> > > reads
> > > > "He was under
> > > > orders to "mask" the loyalist stronghold of
> Ueda
> > > > castle...". I have an
> > > > idea what is meant by bask but could anyone
> > > (author
> > > > included) clarify
> > > > that term for me?
> > > >
> > > > Also, the Sanada Masayuki is the same as the
> > > Takeda
> > > > general... correct?
> > >
> > > "Masking" is the same as "guarding" or
> "covering"
> > in
> > > a
> > > modern military doctrinal context--the idea was
> to
> > > leave a force strong enough to prevent the
> Sanada
> > > from
> > > leaving Ueda Castle and attacking the the
> Tokugawa
> > > main bottle in the rear.
> > >
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> I wouldn't hade thought that I would see the dayWell, I'm passionate about 3 things: Japanese history,
> when football and samurai be brought together
> so...artfully. It proves that a person is surprised
> at least one time a day...
> Would have use Hockey myself; but that is just me.He wasn't a decoy--that was my whole point. It wasn't
> But if he did not show up
> for the battle at all.. What impact did that have on
> the outcome... since he
> was suppose to be a decoy but then regroup witht he
> main force.. just a
> thought...
> Sorry that was a dumb post. Da what was theOkay, hockey:
> outcome... I ment that I was
> sure that this had a great impact on the Battle...
>
> Still like Hockey... lol... Thansk to all of those
> question and replies. I
> love this forum...
> Okay, hockey:I'll try one that perhaps more people might be familiar with these days?
>
> You're playing a game against another team, and
> they've got one winger who isn't deadly, but has the
> good game now and then, and deserves to have one
> defenseman tail him the whole game. Instead, you have
> your whole defensive line follow that one guy around,
> leaving the rest of his team's offense open. Overkill,
> since the guy isn't all that good, really--and you've
> got guys missing in the areas where they could make plays.
> Sorry that was a dumb post. Da what was theOkay, hockey:
> outcome... I ment that I was
> sure that this had a great impact on the Battle...
>
> Still like Hockey... lol... Thansk to all of those
> question and replies. I
> love this forum...
> The sadpart is I have seen this done in games..:) I know almost nothing about hockey, as I grew up in
> lol... but thanks for he
> post..
>
> good to see that somone knows about hockey
> also....kinda like Samurias on
> Ice.. lol...
>
> but i am gald to learn things about this battle that
> i did not know; most
> interesting....
>
> Had the outcme been different; where would Japan be
> now....
>>LOL!!!
> I'll try one that perhaps more people might be
> familiar with these days?
>
> OK, so you've got the NHL owners (Tokugawa) and the
> NHL players
> (Sanada)....
>
> So, rather than continuing on with the season while
> devoting a portion
> of resources to deal with the situation, a lock-out
> is put in effect and
> all resources are used up to deal with the problem,
> potentially having a
> fatal effect on the future of the NHL.
> Thanks for the post... Good information... I guess__________________________________
> decoy was a bad choice of
> words...
>
> but since it did not really effect the main
> battle...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> but it probably did effect the number of overallTokugawa had 30,000 of his own troops (and several thousand more
> casualties on the Tokagawa side. A larger force (or a
> large force showing up at the proper time) might have
> cause a quicker rout from the loyalists there by
> ending the battle quicker.
>
> Although since the rout first seemed to occur with the
> Shimazu, and they are not known for their weak
> spirits, perhaps it would not have had an effect
> afterall."
> but it probably did effect the number of overallTokugawa had 30,000 of his own troops (and several thousand more
> casualties on the Tokagawa side. A larger force (or a
> large force showing up at the proper time) might have
> cause a quicker rout from the loyalists there by
> ending the battle quicker.
>
> Although since the rout first seemed to occur with the
> Shimazu, and they are not known for their weak
> spirits, perhaps it would not have had an effect
> afterall."
> I wouldn't hade thought that I would see the dayWonder what Sun Tzu would say about football
> when football and samurai be brought together
> so...artfully. It proves that a person is surprised
> at least one time a day...
> I wouldn't hade thought that I would see the dayWonder what Sun Tzu would say about football
> when football and samurai be brought together
> so...artfully. It proves that a person is surprised
> at least one time a day...