Re: SCA

In a message dated 12/1/04 5:59:03 PM Central Standard Time, lizzirrd@...
writes:

Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how many of you 'play' in
the Society for Creative Anachronism...... if you do, do
you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas? (No, lol, I don't mean as
in 'chase' them...)

Lizzie
There's some 30,000 current active members within the SCA not to mention
associate people (non paid) - whom I was for 5 years (currently an active 'paid'
member for 2 years) - along with another couple of thousand folks who are semi
active but not current. Which would make the SCA one of the (if not the)
largest re-enactment societies with a world wide base. I would hazard to guess that
the UK Sealed Knot and other English Civil War Societies would be next at
6,000 actives (including children).

Being in the SCA is similiar to most other re-enactment societies or groups
with an opportunity to 'recreate' living history - in combat, day to day
living, etc.
And I would also guess based on personal experience with others both on and
off this list - that many people have 'explored' one or more 'personas' with in
the SCA - being myself both interested in western and eastern culture.
As a member of the SCA - I've been able to actively pursue (with others of
similiar interest)- blacksmithing, armoursmithing, period woodworking, heavy
combat, leatherworking, archery, casting, and more....

If you have some real interest in the SCA you can get some answers at
www.sca.org - or search for a local group in your area.

Kyostti,
Company of Rakehells
Buttlers Dragoons
House of Sir Rashid


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Actually, I suspect she meant how many members of *this* board are SCAdians.
(Inactive former member here).

And now of course, I must address all posts to Tony care of the Grand
Poobah. :D


Maikaru/M.J.Peters

>Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how many of you 'play' in
>the Society for Creative Anachronism...... if you do, do
>you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas? (No, lol, I don't mean
>as
>in 'chase' them...)
>
>Lizzie
>There's some 30,000 current active members within the SCA not to mention
>associate people (non paid) - whom I was for 5 years (currently an active
>'paid'
>member for 2 years) - along with another couple of thousand folks who are
>semi
>active but not current. Which would make the SCA one of the (if not the)
>largest re-enactment societies with a world wide base.

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>Poobah. :D
>
>

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> In a message dated 12/1/04 5:59:03 PM Central
> Standard Time, lizzirrd@...
> writes:

how

> many of you 'play' in
> the Society for Creative Anachronism

--- DinoKruz@... wrote in reply:

> Lizzie
> There's some 30,000 current active members within
> the SCA not to mention
> associate people (non paid) - whom I was for 5 years
> (currently an active 'paid'
> member for 2 years) - along with another couple of
> thousand folks who are semi
> active but not current. Which would make the SCA one
> of the (if not the)
> largest re-enactment societies with a world wide
> base.

> Kyostti,

Kyostti:

I don't think she was asking for a history of the SCA.
Her question was about how many of "you", meaning, I
think, members of this board, are involved with SCA.
Giving her the numbers of how many people are in the
SCA is fine, but it doesn't answer her question (save,
of course, for the fact that you yourself are
involved.).





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--- DinoKruz@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/1/04 5:59:03 PM Central
> Standard Time, lizzirrd@...
> writes:
>
> Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how
> many of you 'play' in
> the Society for Creative Anachronism...... if you
> do, do
> you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas?
> (No, lol, I don't mean as
> in 'chase' them...)
>

I have been in the SCA for the past 22 years.
European persona -- 12th Century Germanic character.

Lord Hugh Geofried von Regansburg
in the Canton of Riverhold,
of the Barony of Three Rivers,
Kingdom of Calontir
(i.e. Jefferson County, outside St. Louis, Mo., USA)



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In a message dated 12/1/04 10:04:52 PM Central Standard Time,
ltdomer98@... writes:
I don't think she was asking for a history of the SCA.
Her question was about how many of "you", meaning, I
think, members of this board, are involved with SCA.
Giving her the numbers of how many people are in the
SCA is fine, but it doesn't answer her question (save,
of course, for the fact that you yourself are
involved.).
I didn't give her a history of the SCA - that would involve California and
host of other things.
What I felt relevant to the question is what I posted. Your clarification -
although appreciated seems redundant. Thanks all the same.
Cheers!
B.K


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--- DinoKruz@... wrote:

> What I felt relevant to the question is what I
> posted. Your clarification -
> although appreciated seems redundant. Thanks all the
> same.
> Cheers!
> B.K

The fact remains, BK, that you didn't answer her
question. She didn't ask how many people were in the
SCA. She asked how many people on this list were in
the SCA. And while you may not have given the full
history of the SCA, you certainly gave a dissertation
on it's international scope and size. Not relevant to
the question. It may appear redundant that I made the
clarification after another poster also pointed it
out, but I will point out that I can only read one
email at a time. Yours came first. I answered it. Then
eventually I got to the email where the other
individual also clarified it. So you got clarification
twice. Some would think that a blessing, and move on.





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Whoops.... I forgot to say that I am a neophyte player myself............ great way for me, too, to combine all the skills I've
developed over the last couple of lifetimes.

I do appreciate your taking the time for such a detailed reply......... and I have noted that people who 'play' or do reenactments
seem to have a different perspective on history that do people who don't. Many I have spoken with, or read their articles seem more
grounded and comprehending of --- oh, how shall I say it--- how the political, religious, and social milieus affected daily like,
and in turn, how those things affected regional and ultimately global politics.

I am glad to say that my own study of Japan and from an SCA perspective is having a positive effect on my own martial training, and
daily life. It's a very curious process to me, and I am also curious how others approach history and how, if at all, it affects how
they live out their daily lives.

Appreciatively,

Lizzie
in learning mode

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To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] SCA


In a message dated 12/1/04 5:59:03 PM Central Standard Time, lizzirrd@...
writes:

Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how many of you 'play' in
the Society for Creative Anachronism...... if you do, do
you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas? (No, lol, I don't mean as
in 'chase' them...)

Lizzie
There's some 30,000 current active members within the SCA not to mention
associate people (non paid) - whom I was for 5 years (currently an active 'paid'
member for 2 years) - along with another couple of thousand folks who are semi
active but not current. Which would make the SCA one of the (if not the)
largest re-enactment societies with a world wide base. I would hazard to guess that
the UK Sealed Knot and other English Civil War Societies would be next at
6,000 actives (including children).

Being in the SCA is similiar to most other re-enactment societies or groups
with an opportunity to 'recreate' living history - in combat, day to day
living, etc.
And I would also guess based on personal experience with others both on and
off this list - that many people have 'explored' one or more 'personas' with in
the SCA - being myself both interested in western and eastern culture.
As a member of the SCA - I've been able to actively pursue (with others of
similiar interest)- blacksmithing, armoursmithing, period woodworking, heavy
combat, leatherworking, archery, casting, and more....

If you have some real interest in the SCA you can get some answers at
www.sca.org - or search for a local group in your area.

Kyostti,
Company of Rakehells
Buttlers Dragoons
House of Sir Rashid


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My next question is, milord Hugh..... how has your pursuit of persona affected how you perceive history, current events, and how
does it affect your mundane life (SCA-dian for 'real world' for those who aren't literate in the terminology)?

Appreciatively,

Lizzie
---Japanese persona; pending Spanish alter-ego
Ogasawara Yuma; Spanish brat is unnamed yet
Barony of Nordskogen
Kingdom of NorthShield
(you know, just to your north, lol)

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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] SCA



--- DinoKruz@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/1/04 5:59:03 PM Central
> Standard Time, lizzirrd@...
> writes:
>
> Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how
> many of you 'play' in
> the Society for Creative Anachronism...... if you
> do, do
> you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas?
> (No, lol, I don't mean as
> in 'chase' them...)
>
I have been in the SCA for the past 22 years.
European persona -- 12th Century Germanic character.

Lord Hugh Geofried von Regansburg
in the Canton of Riverhold,
of the Barony of Three Rivers,
Kingdom of Calontir
(i.e. Jefferson County, outside St. Louis, Mo., USA)



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--- Elizabeth Chase <lizzirrd@...> wrote:

> I do appreciate your taking the time for such a
> detailed reply.........

BK, I retract my previous statement.

LOL.

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I scrolled back through the previous post to notate whether in response to
the intial query if you addressed it or simply applied your assistance to
'correcting' - from me what 'imho' was an honest answer to what I assumed was an
honest question (the intial inquiry).

In your correction you point out that I offered more information than was
required and in doing so overstated your 'clarification' by saying that she
didn't 'need' a history of the sca.

What's amusing to me is that your incorrect in your generalization about
correcting me about mine. I hope my finding that funny puts me in good company:)

Regards.
Bk


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--- DinoKruz@... wrote:

> What's amusing to me is that your incorrect in your
> generalization about
> correcting me about mine. I hope my finding that
> funny puts me in good company:)

Only if you keep company with fishmongers and
simpletons!

(of course, with the readers of this list naming their
swords after mackerel and so forth, there seems to be
quite a lot of that sort of thing...) :0

The assistant deputy undersecretary of
management...twice removed.





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sometimes - of course in the pursuit of an academic interest in .....for
example.....samuraihistory. We show a bit of over zealousness - it helps
if we can laugh at your own mistakes made while trying to be correct.

I imagine we all take our selves too seriously sometimes:)

Learning comes in all forms.

bK
Fishmongering with the best and the worst


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You guys are both helpful and funny in your own ways.

My original question wasn't answered in quite the way I wanted, but I got more information than I had previously. My perception is
that I could have asked a better question to begin with ---- but then perhaps I would have missed out on something else.

Not to worry. I'm happy and playful tonight. Spent two hours at iaido tonight and eased on into a wonderful place in my head.

Lizzie

----- Original Message -----
From: DinoKruz@...
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] SCA


I scrolled back through the previous post to notate whether in response to
the intial query if you addressed it or simply applied your assistance to
'correcting' - from me what 'imho' was an honest answer to what I assumed was an
honest question (the intial inquiry).

In your correction you point out that I offered more information than was
required and in doing so overstated your 'clarification' by saying that she
didn't 'need' a history of the sca.

What's amusing to me is that your incorrect in your generalization about
correcting me about mine. I hope my finding that funny puts me in good company:)

Regards.
Bk


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>
>
> From: "Elizabeth Chase" <lizzirrd@...>
>
>I do appreciate your taking the time for such a detailed reply......... and I have noted that people who 'play' or do reenactments seem to have a different perspective on history that do people who don't.
>

At the bare minimum, they actually know some history which is more than
most Americans ;)

>Many I have spoken with, or read their articles seem more grounded and comprehending of --- oh, how shall I say it--- how the political, religious, and social milieus affected daily like, and in turn, how those things affected regional and ultimately global politics.
>
>

It's certainly fun to study and some of the most fun my friends and I
had were playing with science fiction cultures trying to come up with
methods of describing interactions and effects in some objective
fashion. One good effect that Marx and others had on the study of
history is that numbers are important as well, adding to the study of
history a different perspective from the lifestyles of the rich and
famous. Fernand Braudel's books are a good example of this. I hope that
one day there is the equivalent type of book for Asian studies.

>I am glad to say that my own study of Japan and from an SCA perspective is having a positive effect on my own martial training, and daily life. It's a very curious process to me, and I am also curious how others approach history and how, if at all, it affects how they live out their daily lives.
>
>

Sometimes it depresses me, as along the lines of not this **** again.

>Subject: Re: Re: Mackerel like
>
>James,
>
>Maybe 'sea snake' for a name instead of mackerel, though. I get images of swinging a mackerel around by it's tail. :{
>
>

So do I, that's why I like it! I have a chop I made with EKI-MAN on
it... 10,000 train stations. I have a bizarre sense of humor ;)

http://home.comcast.net/~ronin_engineer/railroad.html

>Mackerel tastes pretty good wrapped in green onions on the grill.
>

Lucky I ate dinner, otherwise I would be gnawing my keyboard, I love
grilled mackerel!

Jim Eckman

--- James Eckman <ronin_engineer@...> wrote:

> So do I, that's why I like it! I have a chop I made
> with EKI-MAN on
> it... 10,000 train stations. I have a bizarre sense
> of humor ;)

I LIKE it! Too bad nothing that handy is out there for
"Ledbetter".

Nate



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I'm in the sca. Mainly do a japanese persona, with an
alternate anglosaxon persona when im in the
mood``````/
--kiyohara


--- DinoKruz@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 12/1/04 5:59:03 PM Central
> Standard Time, lizzirrd@...
> writes:
>
> Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how
> many of you 'play' in
> the Society for Creative Anachronism...... if you
> do, do
> you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas?
> (No, lol, I don't mean as
> in 'chase' them...)
>
> Lizzie
> There's some 30,000 current active members within
> the SCA not to mention
> associate people (non paid) - whom I was for 5 years
> (currently an active 'paid'
> member for 2 years) - along with another couple of
> thousand folks who are semi
> active but not current. Which would make the SCA one
> of the (if not the)
> largest re-enactment societies with a world wide
> base. I would hazard to guess that
> the UK Sealed Knot and other English Civil War
> Societies would be next at
> 6,000 actives (including children).
>
> Being in the SCA is similiar to most other
> re-enactment societies or groups
> with an opportunity to 'recreate' living history -
> in combat, day to day
> living, etc.
> And I would also guess based on personal experience
> with others both on and
> off this list - that many people have 'explored' one
> or more 'personas' with in
> the SCA - being myself both interested in western
> and eastern culture.
> As a member of the SCA - I've been able to actively
> pursue (with others of
> similiar interest)- blacksmithing, armoursmithing,
> period woodworking, heavy
> combat, leatherworking, archery, casting, and
> more....
>
> If you have some real interest in the SCA you can
> get some answers at
> www.sca.org - or search for a local group in your
> area.
>
> Kyostti,
> Company of Rakehells
> Buttlers Dragoons
> House of Sir Rashid
>
>
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Michael,

Of course I have the usual span of questions: what period? why? where you are? involved in a Clan? (Not the K's, lol) Do the rest
of your family play as well? Respond privately, if you like.

I've a Spanish alternate, but I'm having so much fun with the Japanese that she hardly ever gets to come out and play.

Appreciatively,

Lizzie

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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] SCA


I'm in the sca. Mainly do a japanese persona, with an
alternate anglosaxon persona when im in the
mood``````/
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sengoku jidai
because it fun :)
shire of vanished wood midlands midrealm ...nw suburbs
of chicago
not really, when i make war i cam with tengusanji
my 3yr old plays, my lady used to play alot.... we met
at pennsic, but doesnt have the free time or
inclination now.

As i make armor along with gruber which is both
european and japanese,my alternative persona is there
so i can wear the armor i make.
--kiyohara
]
--- Elizabeth Chase wrote:

>
>
> Michael,
>
> Of course I have the usual span of questions: what
> period? why? where you are? involved in a Clan?
> (Not the K's, lol) Do the rest
> of your family play as well? Respond privately, if
> you like.
>
> I've a Spanish alternate, but I'm having so much fun
> with the Japanese that she hardly ever gets to come
> out and play.
>
> Appreciatively,
>
> Lizzie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: michael A
> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] SCA
>
>
> I'm in the sca. Mainly do a japanese persona, with
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> --kiyohara
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