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#5484 [2004-09-08 21:57:25]

Oda Nobunaga in Kyoto

by kitsuno

Any good reasons why Oda Nobunaga allowed Ashikaga Yoshiaki and
Matsunaga Hisahide flee from Kyoto alive? He must have known that
they could come back to haunt him, and I am sure he could have had
them both killed had he wanted to, with little or no impact on
himself.

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#5486 [2004-09-08 22:02:51]

Re: [samuraihistory] Oda Nobunaga in Kyoto

by ltdomer98

--- Kitsuno <samurai-listowner@...>
wrote:

> Any good reasons why Oda Nobunaga allowed Ashikaga
> Yoshiaki and
> Matsunaga Hisahide flee from Kyoto alive? He must
> have known that
> they could come back to haunt him, and I am sure he
> could have had
> them both killed had he wanted to, with little or no
> impact on
> himself.

Yoshiaki was more of a hindrance than a help to anyone
he colluded with. And didn't he eventually kill
Matsunaga? I seem to remember something about him
smashing an important tea bowl to prevent it falling
into Oda hands as his castle burned around him.



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#5491 [2004-09-09 02:19:30]

Re: Oda Nobunaga in Kyoto

by kitsuno

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter
wrote:
>

>
> Yoshiaki was more of a hindrance than a help to anyone
> he colluded with.

Doesnt change the fact that he built up quite a coalition against
Nobunaga, who is not known for his charity or amnesty :P

> And didn't he eventually kill
> Matsunaga? I seem to remember something about him
> smashing an important tea bowl to prevent it falling
> into Oda hands as his castle burned around him.

Exactly - after he fled kyoto and had time to become a problem for
Nobunaga. In both cases, it just seems odd that Nobunaga would just
let them escape.

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#5495 [2004-09-09 05:21:42]

Re: Oda Nobunaga in Kyoto

by kitsuno

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter

> And didn't he eventually kill
> Matsunaga? I seem to remember something about him
> smashing an important tea bowl to prevent it falling
> into Oda hands as his castle burned around him.

You know, I could be wrong, but I think he actually filled the tea
bowl with gunpowder and used it to both destroy the bowl and to blow
his own head off so that Nobunaga couldnt have either.

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