Japanese vs. Mongol

Small two cents on the recent line of posts:

I was under the impression that for MOngols, it wasn't so much supply
lines as foraging skills. The whole thing about the Mongols was that
they took their infrastructure with them, no?

Also: forgive my ignorance, but where was Japanese horse-archery at
the time we're talking about? Didn't samurai start out as mounted
archers? This sounds like an interesting discussion to have...

Lili, Back from San Francisco

--- Lilith <lillith.saintcrow@...> wrote:

> Small two cents on the recent line of posts:
>
> I was under the impression that for MOngols, it
> wasn't so much supply
> lines as foraging skills. The whole thing about the
> Mongols was that
> they took their infrastructure with them, no?

True--which is easier when you can pack it on a horse
as opposed to putting it on a ship, but point well
taken. The problem would be how much foraging would
they be able to do, while harassed by samurai guerrila
fighters? Who knows.

> Also: forgive my ignorance, but where was Japanese
> horse-archery at
> the time we're talking about? Didn't samurai start
> out as mounted
> archers? This sounds like an interesting discussion
> to have...

Samurai were mounted archers at first. But individual
mounted archers didn't fare so well against clouds of
arrows launched by mass formations of Mongols, as the
samurai found out to their chagrin. Nor did the
Mongols respond to well to a samurai riding out,
shouting his lineage, and challenging them to
individual combat. They had to adapt, and did so.



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Hi Lilith, The Mongol army numbered some where in the region of a hundred
and forty thousand men + horses , armouries , medical personnel, cooks,
grooms etc etc.etc. It would have been impossible to feed and supply this
amount by foraging. They would have needed to transport supplies by sea, no
mean feat in those days with storms etc. Although Nate made the valid point
that the sailors would have been Chinese and Koreans, who were excellent
seafarers. I still think it would have been a mammoth task. They would have
been dependent on good weather and as the "Divine wind" proved, you cant
rely on that. Denny. - Original Message -----
From: "Lilith" <lillith.saintcrow@...>
To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Japanese vs. Mongol

> Small two cents on the recent line of posts:
>
> I was under the impression that for MOngols, it wasn't so much supply
> lines as foraging skills. The whole thing about the Mongols was that
> they took their infrastructure with them, no?
>
> Also: forgive my ignorance, but where was Japanese horse-archery at
> the time we're talking about? Didn't samurai start out as mounted
> archers? This sounds like an interesting discussion to have...
>
> Lili, Back from San Francisco
>
>
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