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#4867 [2004-07-20 14:45:51]

bushido thesis

by kakiser

Hello all,

I am working on a thesis regarding bushido as a site of ideological
contest between Japan and the West; I am especially interested in
the way notions of bushido have been disseminated through film.
Currently I am in need of an authority on the subject to interview,
with questions to include:

1) how do accounts of bushido/samurai differ inside and outside
Japan?

2) Where do public conceptions of bushido originate (i.e., How do
most people learn about bushido?), and is this different for Japan
and the West?

3) How has the useage/meaning of the terms bushido and samurai
changed over the years since Nitobe Inazo popularized them in 1900?

4) Why do samurai retain such a hold on the popular imagination?

And so forth...

Naturally I'd be happy to receive any direction from group members!
And I am curious as to your own answers to these questions.

Thanks for any help!
--Katie Kiser

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#4868 [2004-07-20 22:55:34]

Re: [samuraihistory] bushido thesis

by ltdomer98

--- kakiser <kakiser@...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am working on a thesis regarding bushido as a site
> of ideological
> contest between Japan and the West; I am especially
> interested in
> the way notions of bushido have been disseminated
> through film.
> Currently I am in need of an authority on the
> subject to interview,
> with questions to include:

What do you mean by "authority"? We've got one
published author that I know of, and a few others who
have academic credentials that can weigh in--is that
what you're looking for? If you plan on using them for
a source, make sure whomever you use can establish
their expertise--otherwise, you get a bunch of wannabe
hacks (like me, I'll admit) answering your question,
and you quoting them without knowing they aren't
formally educated in the matter. Just want to make
sure you're careful :)

> 1) how do accounts of bushido/samurai differ inside
> and outside
> Japan?

Outside Japan, too many people only understand it from
either movies and television, or from Hagakure, or
from study of pre-WWII Japan, and think it's an
all-encompassing lifestyle still followed today, or
they think it's a religion, or that all samurai were
paragons of bushido.

Japanese have a much better grasp of the reality, I
think--that it is a vague set of warrior ideals
created throughout samurai history, codified in the
Edo period by those who felt a need to explain the
existence of a warrior class with no wars to fight,
then coopted by the political elite to speed the
buildup of military and industry to catch up and
surpass the West. While it's by no means completely
irrelevant to modern Japan, it's not any more invoked
by Japanese than any Western virtues are invoked by
Europeans or Americans.

> 2) Where do public conceptions of bushido originate
> (i.e., How do
> most people learn about bushido?), and is this
> different for Japan
> and the West?

The West: Movies, anime, and reading bad Cleary
translations. Seriously, part of it is because the
image is more interesting than the reality--so the
image gets perpetuated, and the reality gets
forgotten.

Japan: History class? Of course it's much more
prevalent in their pop culture, but there's a
historical understanding of it that tempers it a bit.

> 3) How has the useage/meaning of the terms bushido
> and samurai
> changed over the years since Nitobe Inazo
> popularized them in 1900?

Um, well, both words existed before 1900. Samurai
ceased to exist about 25 years before 1900, so I'd
hardly say the word was popularized then. In the West,
I'd say, Bushido is either mentioned in the context of
the "wonderful" martial virtues of the Samurai, or the
same "horrific" values of the WWII era Japanese
military.

> 4) Why do samurai retain such a hold on the popular
> imagination?

Because they're freaking cool! As we've discussed on
the Archives board before, just about everyone has a
different reason they are interested in the
subject...some because they collect swords, others
because they are history buffs, some because they read
a certain book or movie (if you took a poll, about 40%
would say "Shogun", in book or movie format, was the
key for them), etc.

But to attempt to really answer the question, for much
the same reason that gunfighters of the Old West or
knights in shining armor do--because the ideal image
of a brave warrior fighting for "right" against the
odds is a common human ideal archetype.

Interesting questions!




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#4869 [2004-07-21 12:49:37]

Re: [samuraihistory] bushido thesis

by jdsalvador3

Greetings Katie,
Your questions are very interesting and I hope I can
help. Though, I must say that I am no 'authority' yet
and still an undergaduate.

> 3) How has the useage/meaning of the terms bushido
> and samurai
> changed over the years since Nitobe Inazo
> popularized them in 1900?

World War II, or the Pacific War (if you prefer).
Perhaps the meaning of the terms didn't change, but
the popular image was certainly damaged for a time.
You should especially look into the use of bushido in
the militant policy of State Shinto and its
ramifications during the war and the questions the
Japanese were forced to ask themselves afterwards.


>
> 4) Why do samurai retain such a hold on the popular
> imagination?

The Japanese in recent decades have been increasingly
attracted to a feeling of nostalgia that recalls the
'better days' when life was simple. In modern Japan
the fast paced lifestyle most are forced to lead seems
to be causing some discontent and longing for the
'furusato', homeland of their forefathers. This is of
course an idealized homeland and often seems to refer
to agricultural Tokugawa villages. This is often
expressed in enka music and I recommend the book by
Christine Yano, "Tears of Longing" on the subject.
This nostalgic desire though does explain some of the
fascination with samurai/bushido that survives in pop
culture.

These might be a few directions to look into, if I
think of anything else I'know!

-J.Salvador




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#4870 [2004-07-22 16:32:48]

Re: [samuraihistory] bushido thesis

by gilliru

>Hi Katie,

There is an interesting piece in the Daily Yomiuri on the web this week
(http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/index-e.htm)> about a budo teacher called
Alexander Bennett. You might like to do a search on him and have a
look at his forum.

My own experience in Japan (purely anectdotal, I'm afraid) is that most
of my friends my age find foreigners' interest in "samurai" (mine
included) rather strange. For a start, they never call them "samurai",
always "bushi". But the same people (mostly women) love kabuki drama
and watch taiga (the NHK many episode period drama). The young
actors I was working with last year (in their 20s) thought bushi heroes
very cool, and were especially keen on the shinsengumi - the plays for
children in this theatre company's repertoire often include samurai
stories in all sorts of forms, Boys' festival keeps alive the interest in
swords, helmets etc, thousands of manga and anime have historical
themes, which can be comic, heroic, ghostly, whatever. So perhaps the
real, ongoing cultural history of the country should be seen separately
from the admiration of bushido which is more common among
foreigners than among Japanese where, I suspect, it is seen as verging
towards fascism. (This was definitely the view of the occupying forces
after the war when samurai drama and films were banned.)

My own interest came from Kurosawa movies!

Cheers,

Gillian
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#4872 [2004-07-22 16:53:35]

Re: [samuraihistory] bushido thesis

by ltdomer98

--- Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
wrote:

> My own experience in Japan (purely anectdotal, I'm
> afraid) is that most
> of my friends my age find foreigners' interest in
> "samurai" (mine
> included) rather strange.

So you get the "hen na gaijin" look to? LOL.

So perhaps the
> real, ongoing cultural history of the country should
> be seen separately
> from the admiration of bushido which is more common
> among
> foreigners than among Japanese where, I suspect, it
> is seen as verging
> towards fascism.

This is an excellent point--'samurai' does not equal
'bushido'. While there is an almost 1000 year old
history of samurai/bushi culture to draw upon,
"Bushido" as a codified system is only a few hundred
years old, and wasn't popularized until preWWII
fascists got a hold of it.






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