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#4407 [2004-05-30 22:52:46]

Edo

by cyclops5871

Hello i have just entered this message forum because i
am doing a school project. We had to choose a country
and i chose Japan. One of the things i found out was
that Tokyo use to be called Edo. Im sure you already
knew that but i cant find why it was changed. If
somebody could answer me i would be very greatful.

cyclops5871@...




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#4408 [2004-05-31 04:07:16]

Re: [samuraihistory] Edo

by mijalo_jp

Edo was the administrative, cultural, et alia, capital of the Tokugawa Bakufu, but Kyoto remained the imperial capital upto 1868. With the Meiji Restoration, in 1868 Edo was renamed 'Tokyo' (Eastern Capital) as the imperial seat was moved from Kyoto to the new capital of the nation.

M.Lorimer


bite me <cyclops5871@...> wrote:
Hello i have just entered this message forum because i
am doing a school project. We had to choose a country
and i chose Japan. One of the things i found out was
that Tokyo use to be called Edo. Im sure you already
knew that but i cant find why it was changed. If
somebody could answer me i would be very greatful.

cyclops5871@...




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#4409 [2004-05-31 11:44:41]

Re: Edo

by goldrushg

At 09:51 AM 5/31/04, you wrote:
>With the Meiji Restoration, in 1868 Edo was renamed 'Tokyo' (Eastern
>Capital) as the imperial seat was moved from Kyoto to the new capital of
>the nation.

Something I always thought was marginally interesting... To-kyo, Kyo-to.
Same name segments, just reversed.

Tony explained this to me once. IIRC, they essentially both mean
"Eastern Capital."


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#4410 [2004-05-31 12:27:29]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Edo

by jckelly108

On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:44:41 -0700, Mark Arsenaultさん wrote in message <6.1.1.1.2.20040531114219.088b07b0@...>
> Something I always thought was marginally interesting... To-kyo, Kyo-to.
>Same name segments, just reversed.

Although it looks in English like these are the same two elements,
actually in Japanese only the kyo (more strictly, "kyou") part is the
same. The two "to"s are actually a "to" and a "tou", and have two
different meanings.

> Tony explained this to me once. IIRC, they essentially both mean
>"Eastern Capital."

Kyoto is 京都, which means "capital city".
Tokyo is 東京, which means "eastern capital", to distinguish it from
Kyoto which is to the west.


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#4411 [2004-05-31 11:51:18]

RE: [samuraihistory] Re: Edo

by tokualyon

Tokyo means eastern capital while kyoto really means capital city.

Charlie Carroll
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At 09:51 AM 5/31/04, you wrote:
>With the Meiji Restoration, in 1868 Edo was renamed 'Tokyo' (Eastern
>Capital) as the imperial seat was moved from Kyoto to the new capital
of
>the nation.

Something I always thought was marginally interesting... To-kyo,
Kyo-to.
Same name segments, just reversed.

Tony explained this to me once. IIRC, they essentially both mean
"Eastern Capital."


Mark Arsenault
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#4412 [2004-05-31 16:14:09]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Edo

by cepooooo

On May 31, 2004, at 9:27 AM, Oyakata wrote:

> Kyoto is 京都, which means "capital city".
> Tokyo is 東京, which means "eastern capital", to distinguish it from
> Kyoto which is to the west.

...and even more West there are 'Beijing' (=Northern capital) and
'Nanjing' (=Southern capital)...

There is no city called "Western capital" ('Xijing' in Chinese or
'Seikyo' / 'Saikyo' in Japanese); however, one of the early Chinese
capital cities is now called 'Xian' ('Seian' in Japanese) meaning
"Eastern peace."
cepo


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#4413 [2004-05-31 17:44:27]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Edo

by sengokudaimyo

Mark Arsenault wrote:

> At 09:51 AM 5/31/04, you wrote:
>
>>With the Meiji Restoration, in 1868 Edo was renamed 'Tokyo' (Eastern
>>Capital) as the imperial seat was moved from Kyoto to the new capital of
>>the nation.
>
>
> Something I always thought was marginally interesting... To-kyo, Kyo-to.
> Same name segments, just reversed.
>
> Tony explained this to me once. IIRC, they essentially both mean
> "Eastern Capital."

Actually, no. Sorry. :)

It's Tou kyou (East + Capital) versus Kyou to (Captial + City).

Tony

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#4422 [2004-06-01 18:28:47]

Re: Edo

by goldrushg

At 06:03 PM 6/1/04, you wrote:
>Actually, no. Sorry. :)
>It's Tou kyou (East + Capital) versus Kyou to (Capital + City).

Right! That's what I meant to say. Honest. :)


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