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#4147 [2004-04-07 04:06:57]

Not an Oda Nobunaga question.

by mijalo_jp

Does anyone have any information (texts, webites, &c) that present information upon early fortifications, such as those constructed in Tohoku during the Early Nine Years and Later Three Years Wars, or the defences erected during the Genpei War, such as at Ichinotani?
Thanks in advance
M.Lorimer


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#4148 [2004-04-07 09:08:48]

Re: Castles and Forts

by jckelly108

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Michael Lorimer
wrote:
> Does anyone have any information (texts, webites, &c) that present
information upon early fortifications, such as those constructed in
Tohoku during the Early Nine Years and Later Three Years Wars, or the
defences erected during the Genpei War, such as at Ichinotani?

Assuming that information in Japanese is OK, would this (and
associated pages at the same site) be helpful at all?
http://www.shirofan.com/shiro/castle_touhoku.html

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Jay
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#4150 [2004-04-07 09:41:11]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Castles and Forts

by edyhiphop

Here are some links:
http://pages.ca.inter.net/~ttoyooka/oshiro/alphadex.html
http://farstrider.net/Japan/Castles/

Go to Google or Yahoo! to find more.Just type Japanese Castles.

Edy



----- Original Message -----
From: jckelly108
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Castles and Forts


--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Michael Lorimer
wrote:
> Does anyone have any information (texts, webites, &c) that present
information upon early fortifications, such as those constructed in
Tohoku during the Early Nine Years and Later Three Years Wars, or the
defences erected during the Genpei War, such as at Ichinotani?

Assuming that information in Japanese is OK, would this (and
associated pages at the same site) be helpful at all?
http://www.shirofan.com/shiro/castle_touhoku.html

--
Jay
Oyakata@...



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#4160 [2004-04-07 19:35:07]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Castles and Forts

by mijalo_jp

Thank you, and Mr Alexander, sorry Edy, for the links but I was referring not to Shiro of the latter, admittedly somewhat more magnificient Sengokujidai variety, but the rather earlier, ad hoc fortifications of the wars fought prior to 1185. We all know I'm sure as the field fortifications erected to protect the Oda-Tokugawa lines at Nagashino, but what did earlier field fortifications amount to? Sorry if my request was unclear, but thank you (both) for your replies).
M.Lorimer
PS. Sites in Japanese would be fine

jckelly108 <oyakata@...> wrote:
--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Michael Lorimer
wrote:
> Does anyone have any information (texts, webites, &c) that present
information upon early fortifications, such as those constructed in
Tohoku during the Early Nine Years and Later Three Years Wars, or the
defences erected during the Genpei War, such as at Ichinotani?

Assuming that information in Japanese is OK, would this (and
associated pages at the same site) be helpful at all?
http://www.shirofan.com/shiro/castle_touhoku.html

--
Jay
Oyakata@...



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#4161 [2004-04-07 09:11:27]

Re: [samuraihistory] Not an Oda Nobunaga question.

by edyhiphop

Interesting subject.Anyone know????
Edy
----- Original Message -----
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To: SamuraiHistory
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Not an Oda Nobunaga question.


Does anyone have any information (texts, webites, &c) that present information upon early fortifications, such as those constructed in Tohoku during the Early Nine Years and Later Three Years Wars, or the defences erected during the Genpei War, such as at Ichinotani?
Thanks in advance
M.Lorimer


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#4166 [2004-04-08 03:08:25]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Castles and Forts

by edyhiphop

OOPS!!!!I didn't read that.I'll try to find some.I got a book about all the Japanese Prefectures.Maybe I'll find there some old castles.
Edy
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Lorimer
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Castles and Forts


Thank you, and Mr Alexander, sorry Edy, for the links but I was referring not to Shiro of the latter, admittedly somewhat more magnificient Sengokujidai variety, but the rather earlier, ad hoc fortifications of the wars fought prior to 1185. We all know I'm sure as the field fortifications erected to protect the Oda-Tokugawa lines at Nagashino, but what did earlier field fortifications amount to? Sorry if my request was unclear, but thank you (both) for your replies).
M.Lorimer
PS. Sites in Japanese would be fine

jckelly108 <oyakata@...> wrote:
--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Michael Lorimer
wrote:
> Does anyone have any information (texts, webites, &c) that present
information upon early fortifications, such as those constructed in
Tohoku during the Early Nine Years and Later Three Years Wars, or the
defences erected during the Genpei War, such as at Ichinotani?

Assuming that information in Japanese is OK, would this (and
associated pages at the same site) be helpful at all?
http://www.shirofan.com/shiro/castle_touhoku.html

--
Jay
Oyakata@...



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#4176 [2004-04-09 06:32:00]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Castles and Forts

by jckelly108

On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 03:35:07 +0100 (BST), Michael Lorimerさん wrote in message <20040408023507.43661.qmail@...>
>Thank you, and Mr Alexander, sorry Edy, for the links but I was referring not
>to Shiro of the latter, admittedly somewhat more magnificient Sengokujidai
>variety, but the rather earlier, ad hoc fortifications of the wars fought
>prior to 1185.

Ooops - it looks like I had misunderstood you as well. Unfortunately
I don't have anything that I could refer you too. I guess you've
probably scoured the net using seach terms like 源平争乱 土塁 or
things of that nature? I came across a couple of sites but don't know
if you've seen them or not - or if they are helpful or not. :(

For instance:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/tanba/kirinosato/HARIMAmikusayama-docu.htm
http://www.geocities.jp/kafukabj/genpei.htm
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ZT8M-TKHS/Shimazakijouseki.html

Good luck in your search. I hope you'll let us know what you find
out!

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