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#410 [2001-12-01 18:57:12]

Re: [samuraihistory]

by Tom Helm

Heijoshin@... wrote:

> The handle of the katanas in the 15th through the 18th century
> were longer for more leverage and srtength with the blade. The strengh was
> needed for close contact. If you move up to later time frames, the length of
> the handles were shortened for style reason more than combat reasons. The
> gentleman were bumping into things with the longer blades and handles being
> word in their belts. This lead to single hand style iaido. The blades were
> also lightened with grooves.

Folks-
It is great to finally see some action on this list. I have to disagree
with some of the above though. While the assessment of Japanese sword arts and
body movement seems spot on, the statement on handle length is (I am afraid) not.
There are any number of good references in Japanese (and English) which present
us with examples of early koshirae. It is clear from these that a standard of 1/3
rd or 1/4th scabbard length was standard (with a few exceptions) and the really
long handles we sometimes see came about in the Bakumatsu (tsuka
envy?)Period,19th cent.
I am not saying you are wrong, just you could be more correct,pray for surf.
Tom

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#418 [2001-12-04 14:31:18]

Re: [samuraihistory]

by mayalan

Hi!!

My name is Edwin, I am from mexico, i am an
archaeologist, and i`m researching about the
sengoku-jidai, i wonder, have any of you a list of
weapons used by the warriors of this age?, or there is
any book in which i can found this information?

Thanks!!

Edwin Angulo Torres.

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#420 [2001-12-05 10:37:09]

Re: [samuraihistory]

by musashieb

Hello,

During the Segoku Jidai their were many weapons used
by the Samurai. Here are a few:

Bow with various arrow heads
Naginata: Sort of a sword blad on a long pole(glave)
Yari: Spear which could vary depending on your
position. Samurai usually carried a shorter single
combat version for on horse back or single combat.
Ahigaru(foot soldiers) often times used a very long
version used en masse against calvary or other troops.
Stephen Turnbull has an excellent description of this
in his book " Samurai Sourcebook".
Katana: The sword carried by the samurai on his left
side blade up(in earlier periods such as kamakura it
was worn tachi style with the blade down from a sling
of sorts) This wewapon was not the main weapon on the
battle field for the samurai as was usually thought.
This weapon could be considered secondary to the yari.
Tanto: This knife was carried in place of the short
sword called the wakizashi while wearing armor. This
weapon was used in hanbd-tohand combat and could also
be used to take the head of your enemy. Last resort
weapon.
No-dachi: Not a very popular weapon during the
sengoku-Jidai but was seen. This is essentially a
really long katana. Sometimes as long as 6 feet.
Thought this was unusual. Used more like a naginata
than a sword it could be used against a man on horse
back.


This is a small list of the major weapons and you can
find more in almost any book but i would highly
recommend if you want good pictures and descriptions
you pick up any anthony J. Bryant book, or any stephen
turnbull book on the samurai subject. Also Arms and
Armour of the Samurai by A.P. Bottomley and Thompson.
These are all good basics books on samurai arms.

Musashi
--- Edwin Angulo <mayalan@...> wrote:
> Hi!!
>
> My name is Edwin, I am from mexico, i am an
> archaeologist, and i`m researching about the
> sengoku-jidai, i wonder, have any of you a list of
> weapons used by the warriors of this age?, or there
> is
> any book in which i can found this information?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Edwin Angulo Torres.
>
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#421 [2001-12-05 11:28:04]

Re: [samuraihistory]

by musashieb

--- erik baker <musashieb@...> wrote:
>
Sorry, I forgot the most prominent. The matchlock:
which bcame very prevelant in the late sengoku Jidai
and was the common weapon for the ashigaru or
footsoldier

Hello,
>
> During the Segoku Jidai their were many weapons used
> by the Samurai. Here are a few:
>
> Bow with various arrow heads
> Naginata: Sort of a sword blad on a long
> pole(glave)
> Yari: Spear which could vary depending on your
> position. Samurai usually carried a shorter single
> combat version for on horse back or single combat.
> Ahigaru(foot soldiers) often times used a very long
> version used en masse against calvary or other
> troops.
> Stephen Turnbull has an excellent description of
> this
> in his book " Samurai Sourcebook".
> Katana: The sword carried by the samurai on his
> left
> side blade up(in earlier periods such as kamakura it
> was worn tachi style with the blade down from a
> sling
> of sorts) This wewapon was not the main weapon on
> the
> battle field for the samurai as was usually thought.
>
> This weapon could be considered secondary to the
> yari.
> Tanto: This knife was carried in place of the short
> sword called the wakizashi while wearing armor.
> This
> weapon was used in hanbd-tohand combat and could
> also
> be used to take the head of your enemy. Last resort
> weapon.
> No-dachi: Not a very popular weapon during the
> sengoku-Jidai but was seen. This is essentially a
> really long katana. Sometimes as long as 6 feet.
> Thought this was unusual. Used more like a naginata
> than a sword it could be used against a man on horse
> back.
>
>
> This is a small list of the major weapons and you
> can
> find more in almost any book but i would highly
> recommend if you want good pictures and descriptions
> you pick up any anthony J. Bryant book, or any
> stephen
> turnbull book on the samurai subject. Also Arms and
> Armour of the Samurai by A.P. Bottomley and
> Thompson.
> These are all good basics books on samurai arms.
>
> Musashi
> --- Edwin Angulo <mayalan@...> wrote:
> > Hi!!
> >
> > My name is Edwin, I am from mexico, i am an
> > archaeologist, and i`m researching about the
> > sengoku-jidai, i wonder, have any of you a list of
> > weapons used by the warriors of this age?, or
> there
> > is
> > any book in which i can found this information?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Edwin Angulo Torres.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
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> > http://shopping.yahoo.com
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> >
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#429 [2001-12-10 12:36:30]

Re: [samuraihistory]

by mayalan

Hi!!

Thanks a lot for the information!!

Edwin Angulo.

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#438 [2001-12-13 05:05:44]

info on sengokujidai

by ugtotirona

yo!

buy stephen turnbull's "the samurai source book"
hes the man when it comes to sengoku-jidai stuff

mike tirona

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#469 [2002-01-02 03:56:26]

Re: [samuraihistory]

by mijalo_kr

To all out there
During my latest vacation in Japan, I spent rather a
lot of time (well spent) and money visiting a number
of fortifications on Honshu . It sparked a new area
of interest for me and thus I'd appreciate any info in
regards to where I can acquire quality material on the
history of Japanese castles, since trawling a number
of large bookstores in Tokyo and Osaka presented with
nothing (in English).
All info appreciated
Michael Lorimer

--- erik baker wrote:








--- erik baker wrote:

>

Sorry,  I forgot the most prominent.  The
matchlock:

which bcame very prevelant in the late sengoku
Jidai

and was the common weapon for the ashigaru or

footsoldier



Hello,

>

> During the Segoku Jidai their were many weapons
used

> by the Samurai.  Here are a few:

>

> Bow with various arrow heads

> Naginata:  Sort of a sword blad on a
long

> pole(glave)

> Yari:  Spear which could vary depending on
your

> position.  Samurai usually carried a shorter
single

> combat version for on horse back or single
combat.

> Ahigaru(foot soldiers) often times used a very
long

> version used en masse against calvary or
other

> troops.

> Stephen Turnbull has an excellent description
of

> this

> in his book " Samurai Sourcebook".

> Katana:  The sword carried by the samurai on
his

> left

> side blade up(in earlier periods such as kamakura
it

> was worn tachi style with the blade down from
a

> sling

> of sorts) This wewapon was not the main weapon
on

> the

> battle field for the samurai as was usually
thought.

>

> This weapon could be considered secondary to
the

> yari.

> Tanto:  This knife was carried in place of
the short

> sword called the wakizashi while wearing armor.


> This

> weapon was used in hanbd-tohand combat and
could

> also

> be used to take the head of your enemy. 
Last resort

> weapon.

> No-dachi:  Not a very popular weapon during
the

> sengoku-Jidai but was seen.  This is
essentially a

> really long katana.  Sometimes as long as 6
feet.

> Thought this was unusual.  Used more like a
naginata

> than a sword it could be used against a man on
horse

> back.

>

>

> This is a small list of the major weapons and
you

> can

> find more in almost any book but i would
highly

> recommend if you want good pictures and
descriptions

> you pick up any anthony J. Bryant book, or
any

> stephen

> turnbull book on the samurai subject.  Also
Arms and

> Armour of the Samurai by A.P. Bottomley and

> Thompson.

> These are all good basics books on samurai
arms.

>

> Musashi

> --- Edwin Angulo
wrote:

> > Hi!!

> >

> >  My name is Edwin, I am from mexico, i
am an

> > archaeologist, and i`m researching about
the

> > sengoku-jidai, i wonder, have any of you a
list of

> > weapons used by the warriors of this age?,
or

> there

> > is

> > any book in which i can found this
information?

> >

> >  Thanks!!

> >

> >  Edwin Angulo Torres.

> >

> >
__________________________________________________

> > Do You Yahoo!?

> > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo!
Shopping.

> >
href="http://shopping.yahoo.com">http://shopping.yahoo.com

> >

> >

>

>

>
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Shopping.

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>





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