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#3543 [2004-02-02 16:03:00]

Re: [samuraihistory] Tokugawa descendents -- To Tony

by holydemon13

Hi Tony.
Just a question on your pre-Sekigahara comment. Do you think it would
be possible to do, and is there enough information out there to make
credible, an ALTERNATE-HISTORY romance from the Sengoku period involving Oda's sister
that was married to Shibata and Asai? Thanks for the info on Toyotomi, Oda
and Tokugawa, too!!!!!! 8-D Take care.

L8r.
Tim


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#3548 [2004-02-02 16:17:41]

Re: [samuraihistory] Tokugawa descendents -- To Tony

by sengokudaimyo

Eponymous13@... wrote:

> Hi Tony.
> Just a question on your pre-Sekigahara comment. Do you think it would
> be possible to do, and is there enough information out there to make
> credible, an ALTERNATE-HISTORY romance from the Sengoku period involving Oda's sister
> that was married to Shibata and Asai? Thanks for the info on Toyotomi, Oda
> and Tokugawa, too!!!!!! 8-D Take care.

Hm.

I don't see why not. Given the theory of the "butterfly effect" you can take off
history at almost any given point and see where you can go. That one certainly
would work.

I used to toy with writing an alternate history wherein Perry's flagship sank on
the way to Japan, and it was a few decades before a formal opening. By then, the
shogunate was in a different place (structurally) and not as weak, thus it never
fell; and since Japan opened to the west later, it developed armies and navies
later and thus never fought the Russo Japanese war (thus Nikolas II's position
wasn't as weakened, and the Bolshevik revolution failed) and...

Tony

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#3549 [2004-02-02 16:27:57]

Re: [samuraihistory] Tokugawa descendents -- To Tony

by holydemon13

Hey again.
Butterfly effect? Just wondering, b/c in general, I'm not certain
what that phrase means. Thanks. :-)

Tim


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#3550 [2004-02-02 16:28:39]

Re: [samuraihistory] Tokugawa descendents -- To Tony

by holydemon13

Hey.
Never mind. I think I understand after rereading the sentence it's
used in more carefully. Thanks ne-way. :-)

Tim


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#3552 [2004-02-02 16:42:45]

Re: [samuraihistory] Tokugawa descendents -- To Tony

by sengokudaimyo

Eponymous13@... wrote:

> Hey again.
> Butterfly effect? Just wondering, b/c in general, I'm not certain
> what that phrase means. Thanks. :-)

It's part of chaos theory (and also, conveniently, the title of a new film).

The idea is that the flapping of a butterfly's wings on one side of the globe
might be the triggering breeze that creates a hurricane on the other side.

The guts of it are that the smallest of things can have incredible outcomes.

Tony

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#3553 [2004-02-02 16:47:55]

Re: [samuraihistory] Tokugawa descendents -- To Tony

by holydemon13

ok. thanks. 8-D

Tim


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