> i'm sure you are but is any one else planning on becoming a realOh, for the love of God.
> samurai or swordsman? i have a job as one
> onyxtsunami wrote:Come on Tony you must conform with all the little samurai`s out
>
> > i'm sure you are but is any one else planning on becoming a real
> > samurai or swordsman? i have a job as one
>
> Oh, for the love of God.
>
> Has everyone gone insane?
>
>
>
> Tony
> I'm sure you are but is any one else planning on becoming a realSure I practice kendo in my spare time, and I follow some stuff from "Haga
> samurai or swordsman? i have a job as one just kinda hard to get
> around without 2000 questions from modern people not used to the
> samurai. e-mail me
> Come on Tony you must conform with all the little samurai`s outTablets? Hell, I'm beyond tablets. I'm doing Scotch now. I *have* to.
> there,how much longer can you hold out for,every ones got thier
> limit,if you like i will loan you my time machine so you can send
> all these samurai wannabes back 400 years then they can find out
> what its really like,they will be running away throwing their
> katana`s as they go,now just calm down breath in deeply and count to
> 10 give it a go it works for me,and keep taking the tablets..lmao
> Come on Tony you must conform with all the little samurai`s outTablets? Hell, I'm beyond tablets. I'm doing Scotch now. I *have* to.
> there,how much longer can you hold out for,every ones got thier
> limit,if you like i will loan you my time machine so you can send
> all these samurai wannabes back 400 years then they can find out
> what its really like,they will be running away throwing their
> katana`s as they go,now just calm down breath in deeply and count to
> 10 give it a go it works for me,and keep taking the tablets..lmao
> Tablets? Hell, I'm beyond tablets. I'm doing Scotch now. I *have* to.
>
> Tony
>i'm no wannabe samurai.i have a life of swordsmanship and it wont hurt toIt's not a matter of making fun of anyone. I believe you're missing
>be mocked or made fun of.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Arsenault" <taisho@...>
To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: hello again
> At 09:46 AM 2/1/04, you wrote:
> >i'm no wannabe samurai.i have a life of swordsmanship and it wont hurt to
> >be mocked or made fun of.
>
> It's not a matter of making fun of anyone. I believe you're missing
> Tony's point. Specifically, the term "samurai" is not synonymous with
> "swordsman" or "one who tries to adhere to Bushido" or anything similar.
> Samurai were a caste, and one that no longer exists. So in the strict
> definition of the term, one cannot "become" a samurai any more.
>
>
> Mark Arsenault
> Sengoku List Taisho
> ----------------------------------------------
> http://www.sengoku.com - The official site of the Sengoku RPG!
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
> Samurai Archives store: http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
> ---
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> not synonymous withPoint of fact, if you told you're average Japanese
> "swordsman" or "one who tries to adhere to Bushido"
> or anything similar.
> Samurai were a caste, and one that no longer exists.
> So in the strict
> definition of the term, one cannot "become" a
> samurai any more.
> not synonymous withPoint of fact, if you told you're average Japanese
> "swordsman" or "one who tries to adhere to Bushido"
> or anything similar.
> Samurai were a caste, and one that no longer exists.
> So in the strict
> definition of the term, one cannot "become" a
> samurai any more.
> Quite so.__________________________________
> The term 'samurai' does not regard simply to those
> men (and some women) who trained with, and deployed
> their swords. The word comes from the kanji meaning
> literally 'to serve', whether it was the Emperor, a
> daimyo, or even one of the equally mighty temples.
> However, upon this point of 'to serve', would you
> classify the likes of the Miyamoto Musashi as a
> 'samurai' since his carrer with the sword was one
> essentially without a master??
> M.Lorimer
>
> Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:
>
> --- Mark Arsenault <taisho@...> wrote:
> Specifically, the term "samurai" is
> > not synonymous with
> > "swordsman" or "one who tries to adhere to
> Bushido"
> > or anything similar.
> > Samurai were a caste, and one that no longer
> exists.
> > So in the strict
> > definition of the term, one cannot "become" a
> > samurai any more.
>
> Point of fact, if you told you're average Japanese
> person you were a "samurai", you'd have them
> laughing
> until next week. It just ain't possible.
>
> Nate
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool.
> Try it!
> http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
>
>
> ---
> Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
> Samurai Archives store:
> http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
> ---
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up
> online today and save �80
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
> Quite so.__________________________________
> The term 'samurai' does not regard simply to those
> men (and some women) who trained with, and deployed
> their swords. The word comes from the kanji meaning
> literally 'to serve', whether it was the Emperor, a
> daimyo, or even one of the equally mighty temples.
> However, upon this point of 'to serve', would you
> classify the likes of the Miyamoto Musashi as a
> 'samurai' since his carrer with the sword was one
> essentially without a master??
> M.Lorimer
>
> Nate Ledbetter wrote:
>
> --- Mark Arsenault wrote:
> Specifically, the term "samurai" is
> > not synonymous with
> > "swordsman" or "one who tries to adhere to
> Bushido"
> > or anything similar.
> > Samurai were a caste, and one that no longer
> exists.
> > So in the strict
> > definition of the term, one cannot "become" a
> > samurai any more.
>
> Point of fact, if you told you're average Japanese
> person you were a "samurai", you'd have them
> laughing
> until next week. It just ain't possible.
>
> Nate
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool.
> Try it!
> http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
>
>
> ---
> Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
> Samurai Archives store:
> http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
> ---
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up
> online today and save £80
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
> I'm sure you are but is any one else planning on becoming a realSure I practice kendo in my spare time, and I follow some stuff from "Haga
> samurai or swordsman? i have a job as one just kinda hard to get
> around without 2000 questions from modern people not used to the
> samurai. e-mail me
> Thanbk you.therefore still consider themselves to be samurai, although not with
> So theoretically the descendants of the samurai class could
> Just a thoughtsave £80
> M.Lorimer
>
> Nate Ledbetterwrote:
> Um, yes, you would, as he was born into the hereditary
> samurai class. It's a class, not a job description. I
> could "serve" someone, and still not be a samurai if I
> wasn't a. born into it or b. in rare cases, promoted
> into it (i.e. the bakufu basically gives a declaration
> that such and such person is now a member of the
> samurai class, and as such has all responsibilities
> and duties associated, and so and so's descendants
> shall be samurai, etc.).
>
> Nate
>
> --- Michael Lorimer wrote:
> > Quite so.
> > The term 'samurai' does not regard simply to those
> > men (and some women) who trained with, and deployed
> > their swords. The word comes from the kanji meaning
> > literally 'to serve', whether it was the Emperor, a
> > daimyo, or even one of the equally mighty temples.
> > However, upon this point of 'to serve', would you
> > classify the likes of the Miyamoto Musashi as a
> > 'samurai' since his carrer with the sword was one
> > essentially without a master??
> > M.Lorimer
> >
> > Nate Ledbetter wrote:
> >
> > --- Mark Arsenault wrote:
> > Specifically, the term "samurai" is
> > > not synonymous with
> > > "swordsman" or "one who tries to adhere to
> > Bushido"
> > > or anything similar.
> > > Samurai were a caste, and one that no longer
> > exists.
> > > So in the strict
> > > definition of the term, one cannot "become" a
> > > samurai any more.
> >
> > Point of fact, if you told you're average Japanese
> > person you were a "samurai", you'd have them
> > laughing
> > until next week. It just ain't possible.
> >
> > Nate
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool.
> > Try it!
> > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
> > Samurai Archives store:
> > http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
> > ---
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> > Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up
> > online today and save £80
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
> http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
>
> ---
> Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
> Samurai Archives store: http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
> ---
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> So theoretically the descendants of the samurai class couldtherefore still consider themselves to be samurai, although not with a
> Just a thought
> M.Lorimer
>
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Alexander
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] hello again
I wanna practice kendo but here in Romania....no chance....no Kendo teachers....Edy
Mmupton1@... wrote:In a message dated 01/30/2004 22:42:45 US Mountain Standard Time,
onyxtsunami@... writes:
> I'm sure you are but is any one else planning on becoming a real
> samurai or swordsman? i have a job as one just kinda hard to get
> around without 2000 questions from modern people not used to the
> samurai. e-mail me
Sure I practice kendo in my spare time, and I follow some stuff from "Haga
Kure"; but there is no way for an Irish/Mexican American to be a samurai.
Samurai are all dead. Though what they stood for may still exist samurai are dead.
-Mr.Matt13
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
---
Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
Samurai Archives store: http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
---
---------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
---
Samurai Archives: http://www.samurai-archives.com
Samurai Archives store: http://www.cafeshops.com/samuraiarchives
---
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/samuraihistory/
b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
samuraihistory-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> I've been toldMost ex-samurai send their kids to Tokyo (Imperial) University soon
> that there is some influence in modern politics based on Samurai
> bloodlines.