> Hi,These are all rather famous.
> Can anyone tell me something about the following castles:
> 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> 2.Odawara-jo
> 3.Kofu-jo
> 4.Gifu-jo
> 5.Inuyama-jo
>From: "undergroundrace" <undergroundrace@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [samuraihistory] Castles in Japan
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:52:13 -0000
>
>Hi,
>Can anyone tell me something about the following castles:
>1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
>2.Odawara-jo
>3.Kofu-jo
>4.Gifu-jo
>5.Inuyama-jo
>
>Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
>
> Hi,__________________________________
> Can anyone tell me something about the following
> castles:
> 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> 2.Odawara-jo
> 3.Kofu-jo
> 4.Gifu-jo
> 5.Inuyama-jo
>
> Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
>
>
>From: jacob gerhard <madbearscave@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Castles in Japan
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:52:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>Lets see,
>
>Odawara was the main Hojo castle. It finally
>surrendered to Toyotomi Hideyoshi in 1590. The Hojo
>daimyo and his brother committed seppuku and the
>garrison was spared.
>
>Gifu if Im not mistaken was one of Oda Nobunaga's main
>castles. Not sure.
>
>As for the other castles I realy can't help ya.
>
>Jake
>--- undergroundrace <undergroundrace@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Can anyone tell me something about the following
> > castles:
> > 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> > 2.Odawara-jo
> > 3.Kofu-jo
> > 4.Gifu-jo
> > 5.Inuyama-jo
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
> >
> >
>
>
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> Hi,__________________________________
> Can anyone tell me something about the following
> castles:
> 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> 2.Odawara-jo
> 3.Kofu-jo
> 4.Gifu-jo
> 5.Inuyama-jo
>
> Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
>
>
>From: jacob gerhard <madbearscave@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Castles in Japan
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:52:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>Lets see,
>
>Odawara was the main Hojo castle. It finally
>surrendered to Toyotomi Hideyoshi in 1590. The Hojo
>daimyo and his brother committed seppuku and the
>garrison was spared.
>
>Gifu if Im not mistaken was one of Oda Nobunaga's main
>castles. Not sure.
>
>As for the other castles I realy can't help ya.
>
>Jake
>--- undergroundrace <undergroundrace@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Can anyone tell me something about the following
> > castles:
> > 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> > 2.Odawara-jo
> > 3.Kofu-jo
> > 4.Gifu-jo
> > 5.Inuyama-jo
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
> >
> >
>
>
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> Hi,__________________________________
> Can anyone tell me something about the following
> castles:
> 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> 2.Odawara-jo
> 3.Kofu-jo
> 4.Gifu-jo
> 5.Inuyama-jo
>
> Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
>
>
> Inuyama-jo is also in the same area, just north ofNot just any private family... the castle is owned by a descendant of the family
> Nagoya. It's the only castle still owned by a private
> family, and is one of the few that are still original
> (most were bombed out in WWII) and is the only one
> that is original AND predates the Tokugawa period,
> having been constructed in the late 1400's.
> Nate Ledbetter wrote:__________________________________
>
> > Inuyama-jo is also in the same area, just north of
> > Nagoya. It's the only castle still owned by a
> private
> > family, and is one of the few that are still
> original
> > (most were bombed out in WWII) and is the only one
> > that is original AND predates the Tokugawa period,
> > having been constructed in the late 1400's.
>
> Not just any private family... the castle is owned
> by a descendant of the family
> that governed it through the Edo period --
> Naruse-dono. It's one of my favorite
> castles.
>
> Tony
>
>
> True, true...and it is a great castle to visit. YouExactly. I can't recall if it or Marioka is the oldest extant donjon. Those two
> actually FEEL like your in a building designed to
> withstand a seige, and not some palace, like Nijo-jo
> or something.
> Nate Ledbetter wrote:__________________________________
> > True, true...and it is a great castle to visit.
> You
> > actually FEEL like your in a building designed to
> > withstand a seige, and not some palace, like
> Nijo-jo
> > or something.
>
> Exactly. I can't recall if it or Marioka is the
> oldest extant donjon. Those two
> actually have the look and feel of a *real* sengoku
> castle, rather than an
> age-of-peace showplace (e.g., Himeji -- ack, ptui!)
> or a modern reconstruction
> (e.g., Gifu, Kiyosu, etc.).
>
> God, I love that castle.
>
> Tony
>
>
> Oh come on, how can you not like Himeji????? It's notHimeji to me is an anachronistic monstrosity. Too large, too overdone, too
> as "original", in the Sengoku way, but it is an
> original POST Sengoku castle, and besides it's better
> than Nagoya-jo (How many Daimyo had ELEVATORS
> installed????)
> and besides it's better
> than Nagoya-jo (How many Daimyo had ELEVATORS
> installed????)
>
> Nate
> LOL! I think Hideyori was snuck out of Osaka castle via the elevatorThat would be an excellent point.
> in the center before being whisked off to Kyushu to live out his
> remaining years in seclusion. Bet that was the last place the
> attacking Samurai would have thought to look, "Tono, Hideyori
> couldn't be in the elevator, it says 'in case of fire, use stairs'!"
> Himeji to me is an anachronistic monstrosity. TooUm, well, YEAH...I still think it's gorgeous, and it's
> large, too overdone, too
> showy. Never had a shot fired at it. A showpiece for
> power and prestige.
>Can't say I'd complain either...
> I prefer smaller working-man's castles, like Gifu,
> Inuyama, Morioka, etc. Not
> that I would turn my nose up if someone offered me
> Azuchi, mind you.
> LOL! I think Hideyori was snuck out of Osaka castle__________________________________
> via the elevator
> in the center before being whisked off to Kyushu to
> live out his
> remaining years in seclusion. Bet that was the last
> place the
> attacking Samurai would have thought to look, "Tono,
> Hideyori
> couldn't be in the elevator, it says 'in case of
> fire, use stairs'!"
>
> > and besides it's better
> > than Nagoya-jo (How many Daimyo had ELEVATORS
> > installed????)
> >
> > Nate
>
>
>
> Kitsuno wrote:__________________________________
>
> > LOL! I think Hideyori was snuck out of Osaka
> castle via the elevator
> > in the center before being whisked off to Kyushu
> to live out his
> > remaining years in seclusion. Bet that was the
> last place the
> > attacking Samurai would have thought to look,
> "Tono, Hideyori
> > couldn't be in the elevator, it says 'in case of
> fire, use stairs'!"
>
> That would be an excellent point.
>
> Taking the cowardly elevator would be on par to
> Ishida's escaping Ieyasu's
> clutches dressed as a woman.
>
>
> Tony
>
>
> Hi,__________________________________
> Can anyone tell me something about the following
> castles:
> 1.Iwadono-jo(I'm not sure it existed)
> 2.Odawara-jo
> 3.Kofu-jo
> 4.Gifu-jo
> 5.Inuyama-jo
>
> Any help will be appreciated.Thanks,Edy.
>
>
> I think it was.It was in the center or near the__________________________________
> region where is now Himeji-jo.I think.I'm not very
> sure.Edy(undergroundrace@...)
>
> Eponymous13@... wrote:Hey.
> I know this will sound like dumb question,
> and it probably is. Was
> Odani(-jo? Am I right on suffix?) ever rebuilt?
> Just asking. :-) Take care,
> y'all.
>
> L8r
> Tim
>
>
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> Oh come on, how can you not like Himeji????? It's notAnd you should check out the new restrooms in Osaka-jo... Plastered
> as "original", in the Sengoku way, but it is an
> original POST Sengoku castle, and besides it's better
> than Nagoya-jo (How many Daimyo had ELEVATORS
> installed????)
>
> Nate
>But they 'shot' the mighty 'SHOGUN' there... ;o)
> Himeji to me is an anachronistic monstrosity. Too large, too overdone,
> too
> showy. Never had a shot fired at it.
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> On Jan 19, 2004, at 9:01 PM, Nate Ledbetter wrote:__________________________________
>
> > Oh come on, how can you not like Himeji????? It's
> not
> > as "original", in the Sengoku way, but it is an
> > original POST Sengoku castle, and besides it's
> better
> > than Nagoya-jo (How many Daimyo had ELEVATORS
> > installed????)
> >
> > Nate
>
> And you should check out the new restrooms in
> Osaka-jo... Plastered
> with Italian marble... That guy Hideyoshi: quite
> stylish, for a country
> bumpkin...
> cepo
>
>
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>
> On Jan 19, 2004, at 9:18 PM, Anthony J. Bryant__________________________________
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Himeji to me is an anachronistic monstrosity. Too
> large, too overdone,
> > too
> > showy. Never had a shot fired at it.
>
> But they 'shot' the mighty 'SHOGUN' there... ;o)
>
> Yeah, it's actually a great castle to make movies:
> brand new, large
> enough to afford different takes from different
> angles, and not too far
> from Kyoto's Eiga-mura...
>
> Himeji-jo looks beautiful on a clear day, but I
> might agree with Tony:
> it lacks the atmosphere of the smaller, but somehow
> tougher sengoku
> castles.
>
> Anyway, has anybody visited Matsuyama-jo in Shikoku?
> It's on the top of
> a hill in the middle of the town, really-really
> nice.
>
> cepo
> >
>
>
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