> I have a question.Imagawa Yoshimoto was Imagawa__________________________________
> Ujizane's father or brother????Please tell me.Please
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> I believe it was the father...
> Yoshimoto father was Ujiteru. Ujizane's son is
> Norimochi.
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> Yoshimoto's father was Imagawa Ujichika (1473-1526).__________________________________
> Imagawa
> Yoshimoto was Ujichika's third son. Ujizane
> (1538-1614) was the son
> of Imagawa Yoshimoto and Sadae-in (a daughter of
> Takeda Nobutora).
>
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "W. Field"
>
> wrote:
> > I believe it was the father...
> > Yoshimoto father was Ujiteru. Ujizane's son is
> > Norimochi.
> > --- Edward Alexanderwrote:
> > > I have a question.Imagawa Yoshimoto was Imagawa
> > > Ujizane's father or brother????Please tell
> me.Please
> > > reply!!!
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> Ahh, thanks for catching the mistake.
> Ujichika had 3 kids...one was Ryoshin, the other is
> Ujiteru and Yoshimoto. Yoshimoto had Ujizane....
> thanks
>
> For Ujichika, i have 1471 instead of 1473 and for
> Ujizane i have 1671 instead of 1614. I could be wrong
> again.
> --- Kitsuno
> wrote:
> > Yoshimoto's father was Imagawa Ujichika (1473-1526).
> > Imagawa
> > Yoshimoto was Ujichika's third son. Ujizane
> > (1538-1614) was the son
> > of Imagawa Yoshimoto and Sadae-in (a daughter of
> > Takeda Nobutora).
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "W. Field"
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I believe it was the father...
> > > Yoshimoto father was Ujiteru. Ujizane's son is
> > > Norimochi.
> > > --- Edward Alexanderwrote:
> > > > I have a question.Imagawa Yoshimoto was Imagawa
> > > > Ujizane's father or brother????Please tell
> > me.Please
> > > > reply!!!
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> Ahh, thanks for catching the mistake.---
> Ujichika had 3 kids...one was Ryoshin, the other is
> Ujiteru and Yoshimoto. Yoshimoto had Ujizane....
> thanks
>
> For Ujichika, i have 1471 instead of 1473 and for
> Ujizane i have 1671 instead of 1614. I could be wrong
> again.
> --- Kitsuno
> wrote:
> > Yoshimoto's father was Imagawa Ujichika (1473-1526).
> > Imagawa
> > Yoshimoto was Ujichika's third son. Ujizane
> > (1538-1614) was the son
> > of Imagawa Yoshimoto and Sadae-in (a daughter of
> > Takeda Nobutora).
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "W. Field"
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I believe it was the father...
> > > Yoshimoto father was Ujiteru. Ujizane's son is
> > > Norimochi.
> > > --- Edward Alexanderwrote:
> > > > I have a question.Imagawa Yoshimoto was Imagawa
> > > > Ujizane's father or brother????Please tell
> > me.Please
> > > > reply!!!
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> Thank You!!!I had a misunderstanding because at ShogunTotal War(i guess you know it)Yoshimoto at the start of the game
> (and for buddha's sake, either make theGeisha?? During the sengoku period???
> lovely geisha in the palace room interactive or get rid of her...she
> is a distraction!!! :-) )
On Dec 31, 2003, at 6:11 AM, Yama Kaminari no Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:
> (and for buddha's sake, either make the
> lovely geisha in the palace room interactive or get rid of her...she
> is a distraction!!! :-) )
Geisha?? During the sengoku period???
Talking about historical accuracy...
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> YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku Period!!!!At least that's what I read in the books.Ummm... no, they weren't.
> YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku Period!!!!At least that'sWhich books? Do you have a precise reference? However they're wrong.
> what I read in the books.
> Edy
>From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Sengoku game
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:07:55 -0500
>
>Edward Alexander wrote:
> > YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku Period!!!!At least that's
>what I read in the books.
>
>Ummm... no, they weren't.
>
>
>Tony
>
> If I may. Geishas definitely were active during the Sengoku Jidai. They wereAgain, no.
> "stationed" in a special urban area (some kind of a red light sector) and
> regrouped in houses (same system as today).
> If I may. Geishas definitely were active during the Sengoku Jidai.(1) Again: geisha were NOT active in the Sengoku period. Here is what
> They were
> "stationed" in a special urban area (some kind of a red light sector)
> and
> regrouped in houses (same system as today).
> Their role should not however be associated with that of a "super
> ninja" or
> have any political implications... to my opinion, their presence in
> Total
> War is not welcome.
>
> Eric
> YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku__________________________________
> Period!!!!At least that's what I read in the books.
> Edy
>
> Cesare Polenghi <cepo@...> wrote:
> On Dec 31, 2003, at 6:11 AM, Yama Kaminari no Date
> Saburou Yukiie wrote:
>
> > (and for buddha's sake, either make the
> > lovely geisha in the palace room interactive or
> get rid of her...she
> > is a distraction!!! :-) )
>
> Geisha?? During the sengoku period???
> Talking about historical accuracy...
> cepo
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> If I may. Geishas definitely were active during the_________________________________________________________________
> Sengoku Jidai. They were
> "stationed" in a special urban area (some kind of a
> red light sector) and
> regrouped in houses (same system as today).
> Their role should not however be associated with
> that of a "super ninja" or
> have any political implications... to my opinion,
> their presence in Total
> War is not welcome.
>
> Eric
>
> >From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Sengoku game
> >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:07:55 -0500
> >
> >Edward Alexander wrote:
> > > YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku
> Period!!!!At least that's
> >what I read in the books.
> >
> >Ummm... no, they weren't.
> >
> >
> >Tony
> >
>
>
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>From: Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [samuraihistory] Re: Sengoku game
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:03:05 -0800 (PST)
>
>Eric, hate to tell you bud, but no, in fact, they
>weren't. Geisha, just like "ninja" are a Edo Jidai
>phenomenon. There were entertainers, prostitutes, and
>the like, but no formal "geisha" group existed. They
>weren't settled into quarters, and the word wasn't
>even used, as Cepo said, until the 1700's. And of
>course they aren't connected with super ninja or
>anything--it's a freaking game, people need to get
>over it.
>
>nate
>
>--- ノric Ch駭ard
><ericvietnam@...> wrote:
> > If I may. Geishas definitely were active during the
> > Sengoku Jidai. They were
> > "stationed" in a special urban area (some kind of a
> > red light sector) and
> > regrouped in houses (same system as today).
> > Their role should not however be associated with
> > that of a "super ninja" or
> > have any political implications... to my opinion,
> > their presence in Total
> > War is not welcome.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > >From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
> > >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Sengoku game
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:07:55 -0500
> > >
> > >Edward Alexander wrote:
> > > > YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku
> > Period!!!!At least that's
> > >what I read in the books.
> > >
> > >Ummm... no, they weren't.
> > >
> > >
> > >Tony
> > >
> >
> >
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> Nope, they weren't. Sorry.
>
> Nate
>
> --- Edward Alexanderwrote:
> > YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku
> > Period!!!!At least that's what I read in the books.
> > Edy
> >
> > Cesare Polenghiwrote:
> > On Dec 31, 2003, at 6:11 AM, Yama Kaminari no Date
> > Saburou Yukiie wrote:
> >
> > > (and for buddha's sake, either make the
> > > lovely geisha in the palace room interactive or
> > get rid of her...she
> > > is a distraction!!! :-) )
> >
> > Geisha?? During the sengoku period???
> > Talking about historical accuracy...
> > cepo
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>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Sengoku game (was:Re: [samuraihistory] Re: About Imagawa
>Yoshimoto)
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:55:25 -0000
>
>A,thanks.I was misinformed then.Edy
>
>--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter
>wrote:
> > Nope, they weren't. Sorry.
> >
> > Nate
> >
> > --- Edward Alexanderwrote:
> > > YES!!!!!!!!!!!Gheishas were in the Sengoku
> > > Period!!!!At least that's what I read in the books.
> > > Edy
> > >
> > > Cesare Polenghiwrote:
> > > On Dec 31, 2003, at 6:11 AM, Yama Kaminari no Date
> > > Saburou Yukiie wrote:
> > >
> > > > (and for buddha's sake, either make the
> > > > lovely geisha in the palace room interactive or
> > > get rid of her...she
> > > > is a distraction!!! :-) )
> > >
> > > Geisha?? During the sengoku period???
> > > Talking about historical accuracy...
> > > cepo
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> And I missed the point by mixing both concepts of Geishas andhey, it's ok! we're all here to exchange information, and geisha happen
> Courtesans
> (which could also be artists, but were not performing in a codified
> activity
> at the time). My sincere appologies to this community for my lack of
> rigour.
On Jan 15, 2004, at 6:57 AM, �ric Ch�nard wrote:
> And I missed the point by mixing both concepts of Geishas and
> Courtesans
> (which could also be artists, but were not performing in a codified
> activity
> at the time). My sincere appologies to this community for my lack of
> rigour.
hey, it's ok! we're all here to exchange information, and geisha happen
to be one of my subject of research.
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