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#2361 [2003-10-26 20:16:43]

Dogs of war.

by Parker S. Lyle

Not to nitpick....but if the English author that you are referring to is
Shakespeare, I believe it was:

"[Cry 'havoc,' and] let SLIP the dogs of war."

Shannon


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>Well..... Seeing battle lines are being drawn up I had better take up my
position on the defences!!
>
>Stephen Turnbull's books have done more to popularise the military history
of the samurai and Japan in the western world than any other author.
Whilst I would agree with some, and I do make some critisism at times, that
his work is not perhaps 100% academic, contains some errors and does suffer
from a degree of repetition, it has never the less provided a firm
foundation over the past 25 years for the "samurai enthusiasts".
>
>Stephen had an interest in Japan and the Far East from his early days and
this no doubt helped him in his studies at Cambridge University and
obtaining a Doctorate from Leeds with his thesis on the Hidden Christians
of Japan. He has ben a member of the Japan Society for many years and is
currently an Honorary Research Fellow at the Department of East Asian
Studies at the University of Leeds. So on one point a small correction, he
is associated with a great university.. He is also associated with the
Samurai Gallery of the UK National Armouries and has acted as consultant to
the BBC, The History Channel and "Shogun" anmongst others...
>
>I first met Stephen in the early seventies when he and I were both members
of the North Cheshire Military Modelling Society, there his infectious
enthusiasm for the topic made me a convert. We still occassionally bump
into each other up and down the country. His first book on the samurai
published in 1977, "The Samurai: A Military History" was a mammoth task for
those days and ignited a thirst for knowledge on the subject in the UK .
>
>My own reasonably extensive library has over 20 Turnbull publications on
various aspects of the samurai competing for space with books in japanese,
german, french, italian and polish as well as many others in english. I
have much respect for Stephen in that he "put pen to paper" and put "his
head above the parapet!" (how's that for mixed metaphors...). It is almost
a standing joke between us that my book has yet to come to fruition - but
then I am an engineer!
>
>I would recommend that you view his website and perhaps obtain a couple of
the books from a library before you decide to purchase your first... I am
presently making my way through the two great volumes of collected papers
in his editorial work "The Samurai Tradition" {published cost over 」200}
>
>
http://freespace.virgin.net/stephen.turnbull/publications.htm
>
>Now, as another english author did say... "let loose the dogs of war!"
>
> Rod Johnson :-)
>
>
>
>--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "cepooooo" wrote:
>
> > After studying premodern Japanese history for a few years through the
texts of the
> > classic American historians (Keene, Varley, Hall, etc.), I finally got
me a couple of
> > books from Stephen Turnbull. While he is not associated with any great
University, his
> > work seems to me quite interesting. Perhaps he is not an amazing writer
( imean; his
> > style), but he seems to be truly in love with the subject, and I really
like the way he
> > fills his books with pictures. I am happy this kind of (perhaps?)
self-made scholarship
> > is available.
> > Since this is the first time I write, I was wondering what you
"samurai-maniacs" public
> > think of Turnbull in general.
> > Any book you would suggest in particular?
> > Thanx,
> > cepo
>
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#2381 [2003-10-29 16:06:06]

Re: [samuraihistory] Dogs of war.

by rodjohnson001

Oops! Many a slip 'tween cup and lip.. I do stand corrected.

Rod :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: Parker S. Lyle
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:16 AM


Not to nitpick....but if the English author that you are referring to is
Shakespeare, I believe it was:

"[Cry 'havoc,' and] let SLIP the dogs of war."

Shannon




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