Divorce in Japan at the XVI. century

Dear friends,

if somebody have informations (and sources!) on how divorce could occur in
Japan, at the XVI. century, please write me details.

Other thing what would be very interesting to me is concerning on STD-s
(sexually transmitted deseases). Is there any information on whether the
Europeans spread to Japanese p.e. the syphylis and other STD-s, after ther
Black Ship arrived at the west coast of Japan?

Thanks for every cooperation you will do for helping my research work!

Gyula SOFI MD
Budapest, Hungary


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The Japanese custom of bathing would have uncovered very quickly if any of the Dutch/Portuguese would have had any type of STD. That could have been one reason for isolating them away from the rest of the population.



From: Dr. Sófi Gyula
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:09 PM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [samuraihistory] Divorce in Japan at the XVI. century


Dear friends,

if somebody have informations (and sources!) on how divorce could occur in
Japan, at the XVI. century, please write me details.

Other thing what would be very interesting to me is concerning on STD-s
(sexually transmitted deseases). Is there any information on whether the
Europeans spread to Japanese p.e. the syphylis and other STD-s, after ther
Black Ship arrived at the west coast of Japan?

Thanks for every cooperation you will do for helping my research work!

Gyula SOFI MD
Budapest, Hungary

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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "fabros1" wrote:

>
> The Japanese custom of bathing would have uncovered very quickly if any of the Dutch/Portuguese would have had any type of STD. That could have been one reason for isolating them away from the rest of the population.
>
>
>

That is assuming that they actually bathed.

Does it means, that:
1. there were syphylis in Japan before the Europeans arrived at Japan? or
2. there were no syphylis at that time in Japan?

My other question focused on the daily life of tha Japanese families. Was
there chance for divorcing before the Tokugawa shogunate?

Thanks for your cooperations!

Gyula Sofi MD

2011/5/18 fabros1 <fabros1@...>

>
>
> The Japanese custom of bathing would have uncovered very quickly if any of
> the Dutch/Portuguese would have had any type of STD. That could have been
> one reason for isolating them away from the rest of the population.
>
> From: Dr. S�fi Gyula
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:09 PM
> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [samuraihistory] Divorce in Japan at the XVI. century
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> if somebody have informations (and sources!) on how divorce could occur in
> Japan, at the XVI. century, please write me details.
>
> Other thing what would be very interesting to me is concerning on STD-s
> (sexually transmitted deseases). Is there any information on whether the
> Europeans spread to Japanese p.e. the syphylis and other STD-s, after ther
> Black Ship arrived at the west coast of Japan?
>
> Thanks for every cooperation you will do for helping my research work!
>
> Gyula SOFI MD
> Budapest, Hungary
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Dr. Sófi Gyula wrote:

>
> Does it means, that:
> 1. there were syphylis in Japan before the Europeans arrived at Japan? or
> 2. there were no syphylis at that time in Japan?
>
> My other question focused on the daily life of tha Japanese families. Was
> there chance for divorcing before the Tokugawa shogunate?
>
> Thanks for your cooperations!
>
> Gyula Sofi MD
>
>

According to this article, it was "introduced" to Japan in 1512:

http://www.um.u-tokyo.ac.jp/publish_db/Bulletin/no23/no23000.html

Yes, wives were moved from one husband to another depending on who the Daimyo was trying to make alliances with. Marriage was a political tool.

std came from the new world.



From: kitsuno
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:04 PM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Divorce in Japan at the XVI. century

--- In mailto:samuraihistory%40yahoogroups.com, Dr. Sófi Gyula wrote:
>
> Does it means, that:
> 1. there were syphylis in Japan before the Europeans arrived at Japan? or
> 2. there were no syphylis at that time in Japan?
>
> My other question focused on the daily life of tha Japanese families. Was
> there chance for divorcing before the Tokugawa shogunate?
>
> Thanks for your cooperations!
>
> Gyula Sofi MD
>
>

According to this article, it was "introduced" to Japan in 1512:

http://www.um.u-tokyo.ac.jp/publish_db/Bulletin/no23/no23000.html

Yes, wives were moved from one husband to another depending on who the Daimyo was trying to make alliances with. Marriage was a political tool.





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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:47 AM, fabros1 <fabros1@...> wrote:

> std came from the new world.
>

Nope.

That's a common misconception. It was believed to come from the New
World at one point but they've found signs of syphilis on bones from
13th century Europe.

-Josh

Its a pretty safe bet that Europeans brought venereal disease among the plethora of other
diseases they took throughout the world. From what I can see the japanese are extremely diligent in their clealiness.
Albeit Typhoid malaria and the like would be hard to keep at bay.

However here in Australia disease and germ warfare common, the British practiced it in north America. They learnt it from the Romans who would dip their arrow heads in dirt or some other unpleasant mix so if the arrow failed to do the job the bacteria could have a second go.

> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> From: drsofigyula@...
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:39:10 +0200
> Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Divorce in Japan at the XVI. century
>
> Does it means, that:
> 1. there were syphylis in Japan before the Europeans arrived at Japan? or
> 2. there were no syphylis at that time in Japan?
>
> My other question focused on the daily life of tha Japanese families. Was
> there chance for divorcing before the Tokugawa shogunate?
>
> Thanks for your cooperations!
>
> Gyula Sofi MD
>
> 2011/5/18 fabros1 <fabros1@...>
>
> >
> >
> > The Japanese custom of bathing would have uncovered very quickly if any of
> > the Dutch/Portuguese would have had any type of STD. That could have been
> > one reason for isolating them away from the rest of the population.
> >
> > From: Dr. Sófi Gyula
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:09 PM
> > To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [samuraihistory] Divorce in Japan at the XVI. century
> >
> >
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > if somebody have informations (and sources!) on how divorce could occur in
> > Japan, at the XVI. century, please write me details.
> >
> > Other thing what would be very interesting to me is concerning on STD-s
> > (sexually transmitted deseases). Is there any information on whether the
> > Europeans spread to Japanese p.e. the syphylis and other STD-s, after ther
> > Black Ship arrived at the west coast of Japan?
> >
> > Thanks for every cooperation you will do for helping my research work!
> >
> > Gyula SOFI MD
> > Budapest, Hungary
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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