to secretarytocapt3 (Re: Okita page Updates)

For some reason. I still can't compose a message with Rich-text. So, I've uploaded the
message to savefile.com today. Details need to be changed are in red.

http://www.savefile.com/files/2674720

~Seven

PS. I'm still working on the Okita Rintaro article.

Yes, I'm going to write about Todo and Yamazaki (sooner or later.)
As for Shimada and Oishi, maybe???

~Seven

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "k kobayakawa" wrote:
>
> I really apreciate your works on wikipedia.
> Are you going to write other Shinsengumi mambers such as Todo Heisuke, Oishi
> Kuwajiro,Yamazaki Susumu,Shimada kai?
>
>
> 2006/7/4, Seven :
> >
> > For some reason. I still can't compose a message with Rich-text. So,
> > I've uploaded the
> > message to savefile.com today. Details need to be changed are in red.
> >
> > http://www.savefile.com/files/2674720
> >
> > ~Seven
> >
> > PS. I'm still working on the Okita Rintaro article.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

About the last paragraph on http://www.shinsengumihq.com/
OkitaSoujirobackground.htm, Okita became the "??" ("School Head") at the Shieikan in
1861, not an "Assistant Instructor" ("???.") (Oji, p.48) More info could be found on the
Yamanami Keisuke discussion page at Wikipedia (since I can't type any kanji here.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yamanami_Keisuke

I've decided to translate "??" as "Head Coach" to avoid confusion with "??" ("Director" -
Kondo Isami's position at the time.) I'm afraid it couldn't be interpreted as "Assistant
Instructor" in any case.

~Seven

About the translation of "Jukutou", it's translated as "head teacher" (regarding Sakamoto)
in the PMK anime and "head of the school" in the PMK manga. In "Shinsengumi : the
Shogun's Last Samurai Corps" by Romulus Hillsborough, it's also written "Okita Soji: genius
swordsman, head of the Shieikan..."

I've decided to keep "Head Coach (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the Okita article and use
"Head Teacher (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the Yamanami article at Wikipedia. I really
would like to avoid translating "Jukutou" as "Head of School."

However, I'd have no objection if the SHQ decided to use "head of the school". (Just don't
use "assistant instructor", please.)

~Seven

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
>
> About the last paragraph on http://www.shinsengumihq.com/
> OkitaSoujirobackground.htm, Okita became the "??" ("School Head") at the Shieikan in
> 1861, not an "Assistant Instructor" ("???.") (Oji, p.48) More info could be found on the
> Yamanami Keisuke discussion page at Wikipedia (since I can't type any kanji here.)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yamanami_Keisuke
>
> I've decided to translate "??" as "Head Coach" to avoid confusion with "??" ("Director" -
> Kondo Isami's position at the time.) I'm afraid it couldn't be interpreted as "Assistant
> Instructor" in any case.
>
> ~Seven
>

As mentioned on previous posts and during personal emails to you we
asked you to just tell us what you wanted on that page. So for some
reason either you forgot to put this on a list? I'm sorry it should be
corrected right away.

Even with minor details such as changing your pen name, was done
immediately or within the hour of your request.

Just right now, the pages are undergoing conversion to a different
format for easier navigation---so as soon as that is done by two
volunteers, then the correction will be done as soon as possible. I
can't do anything because of this ongoing process.

So thank you for bringing this up---but we did stick to what you told
us---and if you recall I emailed you right away to inform you when
your corrections went live.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
>
> About the translation of "Jukutou", it's translated as "head
teacher" (regarding Sakamoto)
> in the PMK anime and "head of the school" in the PMK manga. In
"Shinsengumi : the
> Shogun's Last Samurai Corps" by Romulus Hillsborough, it's also
written "Okita Soji: genius
> swordsman, head of the Shieikan..."
>
> I've decided to keep "Head Coach (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the
Okita article and use
> "Head Teacher (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the Yamanami article at
Wikipedia. I really
> would like to avoid translating "Jukutou" as "Head of School."
>
> However, I'd have no objection if the SHQ decided to use "head of
the school". (Just don't
> use "assistant instructor", please.)
>
> ~Seven
>
>
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
> >
> > About the last paragraph on http://www.shinsengumihq.com/
> > OkitaSoujirobackground.htm, Okita became the "??" ("School Head")
at the Shieikan in
> > 1861, not an "Assistant Instructor" ("???.") (Oji, p.48) More info
could be found on the
> > Yamanami Keisuke discussion page at Wikipedia (since I can't type
any kanji here.)
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yamanami_Keisuke
> >
> > I've decided to translate "??" as "Head Coach" to avoid confusion
with "??" ("Director" -
> > Kondo Isami's position at the time.) I'm afraid it couldn't be
interpreted as "Assistant
> > Instructor" in any case.
> >
> > ~Seven
> >
>

http://www.shinsengumihq.com/OkitaSoujiro.htm
under the "background" section

[first version]
In 1861, Okita became the Head Coach (assistant instructor) at the
Shieikan. Even though he was
often commented to be honest, polite, and good-natured by those around
him, he was
also known to be a strict and quick-tempered teacher to his students.
(Mori 27 - 28)

[new version corrected by seven]
In 1861, Okita became the Head Coach "Head Coach (Jukutou) at the
Shieikan". Even though he was
often commented to be honest, polite, and good-natured by those around
him, he was
also known to be a strict and quick-tempered teacher to his students.
(Mori 27 - 28)

Mori, citations from seven as well

If you have more corrections let me know on the list or off-list, I
just cut and paste your edits.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
>
> About the translation of "Jukutou", it's translated as "head
teacher" (regarding Sakamoto)
> in the PMK anime and "head of the school" in the PMK manga. In
"Shinsengumi : the
> Shogun's Last Samurai Corps" by Romulus Hillsborough, it's also
written "Okita Soji: genius
> swordsman, head of the Shieikan..."
>
> I've decided to keep "Head Coach (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the
Okita article and use
> "Head Teacher (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the Yamanami article at
Wikipedia. I really
> would like to avoid translating "Jukutou" as "Head of School."
>
> However, I'd have no objection if the SHQ decided to use "head of
the school". (Just don't
> use "assistant instructor", please.)
>
> ~Seven
>
>
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
> >
> > About the last paragraph on http://www.shinsengumihq.com/
> > OkitaSoujirobackground.htm, Okita became the "??" ("School Head")
at the Shieikan in
> > 1861, not an "Assistant Instructor" ("???.") (Oji, p.48) More info
could be found on the
> > Yamanami Keisuke discussion page at Wikipedia (since I can't type
any kanji here.)
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yamanami_Keisuke
> >
> > I've decided to translate "??" as "Head Coach" to avoid confusion
with "??" ("Director" -
> > Kondo Isami's position at the time.) I'm afraid it couldn't be
interpreted as "Assistant
> > Instructor" in any case.
> >
> > ~Seven
> >
>

No, I didn't forget to put that on the list. I didn't realized that the SHQ had decided to use
"assistant instructor" in place of the kanji that couldn't be displayed properly. As soon as I
noticed it, I posted the following message.

--- n SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:

> > >
> > > About the last paragraph on http://www.shinsengumihq.com/
> > > OkitaSoujirobackground.htm, Okita became the "??" ("School Head")
> at the Shieikan in
> > > 1861, not an "Assistant Instructor" ("???.") (Oji, p.48) More info
> could be found on the
> > > Yamanami Keisuke discussion page at Wikipedia (since I can't type
> any kanji here.)
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yamanami_Keisuke
> > >
> > > I've decided to translate "??" as "Head Coach" to avoid confusion
> with "??" ("Director" -
> > > Kondo Isami's position at the time.) I'm afraid it couldn't be
> interpreted as "Assistant
> > > Instructor" in any case.
> > >
> > > ~Seven
> > >

Of course, I should've just used "Jukutou" in place of its kanji to begin with.
Thanks a lot for making the correction. :)

~Seven

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary" wrote:
>
> As mentioned on previous posts and during personal emails to you we
> asked you to just tell us what you wanted on that page. So for some
> reason either you forgot to put this on a list? I'm sorry it should be
> corrected right away.
>
> Even with minor details such as changing your pen name, was done
> immediately or within the hour of your request.
>
> Just right now, the pages are undergoing conversion to a different
> format for easier navigation---so as soon as that is done by two
> volunteers, then the correction will be done as soon as possible. I
> can't do anything because of this ongoing process.
>
> So thank you for bringing this up---but we did stick to what you told
> us---and if you recall I emailed you right away to inform you when
> your corrections went live.
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
> >
> > About the translation of "Jukutou", it's translated as "head
> teacher" (regarding Sakamoto)
> > in the PMK anime and "head of the school" in the PMK manga. In
> "Shinsengumi : the
> > Shogun's Last Samurai Corps" by Romulus Hillsborough, it's also
> written "Okita Soji: genius
> > swordsman, head of the Shieikan..."
> >
> > I've decided to keep "Head Coach (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the
> Okita article and use
> > "Head Teacher (Jukutou) at the Shieikan" in the Yamanami article at
> Wikipedia. I really
> > would like to avoid translating "Jukutou" as "Head of School."
> >
> > However, I'd have no objection if the SHQ decided to use "head of
> the school". (Just don't
> > use "assistant instructor", please.)
> >
> > ~Seven