S.H. NEW INFO!!!!!!!!

uh oh you think...Tiffany is using babelfish again...
-NOPE-
My university had a special event with artists/delegates from the
Chiba Perfecture Japan (sister city to my city)(dance/kendo
demo/puppet skit/blurb on the hakkenden etc) and so I attended the event.
I just ~happen~ to be carrying around the book Saitou Hajime No Subete
with me and I tried to communicate with them. Fortunatly, they happen
to know about the Shinsengumi (one lady definately knew about S.H.
based on the film Mibugishiden because I heard her say Sato
Hiroshi---the name of the actor who played S.H. in the film---I'm
pretty sure) and so they were flipping through the book and chattering
amongst themselves for a while and I was just standing there like the
idiot that I am...I didn't want to impose and say "translate this
now!" (Like we do to Serizawa Kamo and Shimazuryu)...of all the pics
they picked out ones of where Saitou lived before finding work in Tokyo...

p.147 +148 (Shimazuryu if you are interested) pic shows a forest and
the 2nd shows an empty field (used to have houses)

p.214 is VERY interesting BECAUSE it shows a pretty modern building
used as a detention center. The lady was explaining to me that it
wasn't a prison/jail but a "place where people could not leave until
they know they did wrong"...so I was trying to ask her if he committed
a crime or did something 'bad' (robbery, murder etc) of some sort and
she said 'no' and she was skimming the pages and asked whether he was
a police officer? And I was like "yes" (so the pages must deal w/
Fujita Goro time frame)...she kept using the word "discipline" and so
she was trying to convey something to do with being a policeman,
disciplinary issue and this detention center that he "stayed" at. I
kept asking if S.H. stayed there to be 100% sure and she was like yes
he stayed there. BUT what I was trying to figure out was if he WORKED
there...and she made herself clear that he LIVED there. Because if you
think about it --- it wouldn't be a good idea to throw a cop in a
prison with criminal scum. So preliminary speculation is that he was
formerly "disciplined" for something...because I trying really hard to
be sure that he wasn't just a prison guard but she was trying to
communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.

Geez...maybe there is something to S.H. being a "psycho-cop" as Misao
said -_-

Will scan pics when I can get to a scanner.

Tiffany wrote:

> she was trying to
>communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.
>
>
>

Ohhhh what interesting info!!!!!! The first thing I thought of after
reading this was Aku Soku Zan = S.H. was maybe the "Dirty Harry" of his
day. Can we not picture him dispatching the criminal element by whatever
means necessary?
--
Barbara Sheridan

http://www.barbarasheridan.net

Ironically, I've been reduced to watching prison history on "History
Channel" today... I don't know how similar Japanese imprisonment
systems were to western at the time, but given that so much of the
police and armed forces were being patterned after European models, I
would expect them working on similar ideas in prison reform.

If they were incorporating western ideas (or maybe it was practiced
in Japan, too, before westernization attempts), it would NOT be
unusual for Fujita Gorou to be living at the facility as an
employee. What I'm getting from all of this history on prisons
(again, US & European... unfortunately) is that it was more usual for
prison staff to live on or near the prison grounds in the 19th into
the 20th centuries, from the warden on down. Alcatraz, for
instance, had a community for staff families on the island itself.
What are the dates for this assignment? Was it before he married
Tokio & his sons were born? I can imagine the bachelor Fujita (or
even married) living in quarters at the facility. From what you are
saying the woman told you, it sounds to me that that was exactly the
case --- he was an officer working at the detention center and he
lived there like other staff. I don't come to the conclusion you
do. (But then, my head is currently stuffed with prison history... :-
D) Needs to be explored!!

*DEFINITELY* fascinating new info, though. I've been thinking
recently about how he might regard incarceration --- in terms of
practices and who he could be seeing locked up... maybe more & more
young people (ahem... like Sano)without opportunity and few options
but to turn to crime just to eat. Anyone have any good sources for
info about crime statistics during the Meiji, especially in the first
decade or two? (and more than how many were arrested for peeing in
public!)

I'd love to know more when you find out!

phil

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:

> p.214 is VERY interesting BECAUSE it shows a pretty modern building
> used as a detention center. The lady was explaining to me that it
> wasn't a prison/jail but a "place where people could not leave until
> they know they did wrong"...so I was trying to ask her if he
committed
> a crime or did something 'bad' (robbery, murder etc) of some sort
and
> she said 'no' and she was skimming the pages and asked whether he
was
> a police officer? And I was like "yes" (so the pages must deal w/
> Fujita Goro time frame)...she kept using the word "discipline" and
so
> she was trying to convey something to do with being a policeman,
> disciplinary issue and this detention center that he "stayed" at. I
> kept asking if S.H. stayed there to be 100% sure and she was like
yes
> he stayed there. BUT what I was trying to figure out was if he
WORKED
> there...and she made herself clear that he LIVED there. Because if
you
> think about it --- it wouldn't be a good idea to throw a cop in a
> prison with criminal scum. So preliminary speculation is that he was
> formerly "disciplined" for something...because I trying really hard
to
> be sure that he wasn't just a prison guard but she was trying to
> communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.

Yes, Phil, I was thinking the same exact thing you are thinking (I
kinda cropped my post below) and the overall tone is that he was the
one being detained. Now, I am in the process of getting this book in
the hands of someone who knows Japanese & the Shinsengumi. Yes, I am
trying to approach this with caution...and as soon as I can get to a
scanner I will scan the photo and the paragraph...because the
"letters" right below the pic are also headers for a paragraph...so
I'm eager to get everything crystal clear.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "spiritus_saitou"
wrote:
it would NOT be

> unusual for Fujita Gorou to be living at the facility as an
> employee.

> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:

BUT what I was trying to figure out was if he

> WORKED
> > there...and she made herself clear that he LIVED there. Because if
> you
> > think about it --- it wouldn't be a good idea to throw a cop in a
> > prison with criminal scum. So preliminary speculation is that he was
> > formerly "disciplined" for something...because I trying really hard
> to
> > be sure that he wasn't just a prison guard but she was trying to
> > communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.

I don't know why I'm bothering to respond to this... no one's going
to see it for hours, but I need to correct myself. I should know
better than to attempt thinking when I'm sick...

I somehow missed the last sentence of your story... more like misread
it probably. So the woman indicated he'd done something "bad"? Okay,
so now I'm more than curious as to what the situation was. How can
we get this sucker translated???? Geez, you probably wouldn't even
know which pages were relevent since you can't read the Japanese, or
do you?

phil (tucking tail and finding a corner to hide in)

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "spiritus_saitou"
wrote:

> Ironically, I've been reduced to watching prison history

on "History

> Channel" today... I don't know how similar Japanese imprisonment
> systems were to western at the time, but given that so much of the
> police and armed forces were being patterned after European models,

I

> would expect them working on similar ideas in prison reform.
>
> If they were incorporating western ideas (or maybe it was practiced
> in Japan, too, before westernization attempts), it would NOT be
> unusual for Fujita Gorou to be living at the facility as an
> employee. What I'm getting from all of this history on prisons
> (again, US & European... unfortunately) is that it was more usual

for

> prison staff to live on or near the prison grounds in the 19th into
> the 20th centuries, from the warden on down. Alcatraz, for
> instance, had a community for staff families on the island itself.
> What are the dates for this assignment? Was it before he married
> Tokio & his sons were born? I can imagine the bachelor Fujita (or
> even married) living in quarters at the facility. From what you

are

> saying the woman told you, it sounds to me that that was exactly

the

> case --- he was an officer working at the detention center and he
> lived there like other staff. I don't come to the conclusion you
> do. (But then, my head is currently stuffed with prison

history... :-

> D) Needs to be explored!!
>
> *DEFINITELY* fascinating new info, though. I've been thinking
> recently about how he might regard incarceration --- in terms of
> practices and who he could be seeing locked up... maybe more & more
> young people (ahem... like Sano)without opportunity and few options
> but to turn to crime just to eat. Anyone have any good sources for
> info about crime statistics during the Meiji, especially in the

first

> decade or two? (and more than how many were arrested for peeing in
> public!)
>
> I'd love to know more when you find out!
>
> phil
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:
>
> > p.214 is VERY interesting BECAUSE it shows a pretty modern

building

> > used as a detention center. The lady was explaining to me that it
> > wasn't a prison/jail but a "place where people could not leave

until

> > they know they did wrong"...so I was trying to ask her if he
> committed
> > a crime or did something 'bad' (robbery, murder etc) of some sort
> and
> > she said 'no' and she was skimming the pages and asked whether he
> was
> > a police officer? And I was like "yes" (so the pages must deal w/
> > Fujita Goro time frame)...she kept using the word "discipline"

and

> so
> > she was trying to convey something to do with being a policeman,
> > disciplinary issue and this detention center that he "stayed"

at. I

> > kept asking if S.H. stayed there to be 100% sure and she was like
> yes
> > he stayed there. BUT what I was trying to figure out was if he
> WORKED
> > there...and she made herself clear that he LIVED there. Because

if

> you
> > think about it --- it wouldn't be a good idea to throw a cop in a
> > prison with criminal scum. So preliminary speculation is that he

was

> > formerly "disciplined" for something...because I trying really

hard

> to
> > be sure that he wasn't just a prison guard but she was trying to
> > communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.

Pity, I should have videotaped myself courteously "interrogating" this
kind lady...then there were other Japanese people who came over to
take a look at the book:)...then one person walked away with it for a
while...LOL...I'm Asian so everyone is like "Nihongo xxxxx" "Can you
speak Japanese" I AM carrying around a book written in Japanese...

I tried my best guys to be absolutely clear on this new piece of
info...the funny thing is while I was trying to get a clear
differentiation between "stay" vs. "worked", then "bad" not "criminal"
then she adds "discipline" to make things complicated!

I am in the process of getting this book into the hands of another
person who knows Japanese and can probably add some more details. So
we are crystal clear...if it wasn't for Serizawa I would be pointing
to my head and saying "fundoshi"

I was thinking would his superiors really care if he broke some kind
of regulation while dealing with a common criminal? I wonder....hmmmmm.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Sheridan wrote:
>
>
> Tiffany wrote:
>
> > she was trying to
> >communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.
> >
> >
> >
> Ohhhh what interesting info!!!!!! The first thing I thought of after
> reading this was Aku Soku Zan = S.H. was maybe the "Dirty Harry" of his
> day. Can we not picture him dispatching the criminal element by
whatever
> means necessary?
> --
> Barbara Sheridan
>
> http://www.barbarasheridan.net

No you see I was trying to be absolutely sure as to whether or not he
was the one being detained or if he was working there. No I can't read
Japanese but I scanned what seemed to be the relevant paragraph right
above the picture.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "spiritus_saitou"
wrote:
So the woman indicated he'd done something "bad"?

>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "spiritus_saitou"
> wrote:
> > Ironically, I've been reduced to watching prison history
> on "History
> > Channel" today... I don't know how similar Japanese imprisonment
> > systems were to western at the time, but given that so much of the
> > police and armed forces were being patterned after European models,
> I
> > would expect them working on similar ideas in prison reform.
> >
> > If they were incorporating western ideas (or maybe it was practiced
> > in Japan, too, before westernization attempts), it would NOT be
> > unusual for Fujita Gorou to be living at the facility as an
> > employee. What I'm getting from all of this history on prisons
> > (again, US & European... unfortunately) is that it was more usual
> for
> > prison staff to live on or near the prison grounds in the 19th into
> > the 20th centuries, from the warden on down. Alcatraz, for
> > instance, had a community for staff families on the island itself.
> > What are the dates for this assignment? Was it before he married
> > Tokio & his sons were born? I can imagine the bachelor Fujita (or
> > even married) living in quarters at the facility. From what you
> are
> > saying the woman told you, it sounds to me that that was exactly
> the
> > case --- he was an officer working at the detention center and he
> > lived there like other staff. I don't come to the conclusion you
> > do. (But then, my head is currently stuffed with prison
> history... :-
> > D) Needs to be explored!!
> >
> > *DEFINITELY* fascinating new info, though. I've been thinking
> > recently about how he might regard incarceration --- in terms of
> > practices and who he could be seeing locked up... maybe more & more
> > young people (ahem... like Sano)without opportunity and few options
> > but to turn to crime just to eat. Anyone have any good sources for
> > info about crime statistics during the Meiji, especially in the
> first
> > decade or two? (and more than how many were arrested for peeing in
> > public!)
> >
> > I'd love to know more when you find out!
> >
> > phil
> >
> > --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:
> >
> > > p.214 is VERY interesting BECAUSE it shows a pretty modern
> building
> > > used as a detention center. The lady was explaining to me that it
> > > wasn't a prison/jail but a "place where people could not leave
> until
> > > they know they did wrong"...so I was trying to ask her if he
> > committed
> > > a crime or did something 'bad' (robbery, murder etc) of some sort
> > and
> > > she said 'no' and she was skimming the pages and asked whether he
> > was
> > > a police officer? And I was like "yes" (so the pages must deal w/
> > > Fujita Goro time frame)...she kept using the word "discipline"
> and
> > so
> > > she was trying to convey something to do with being a policeman,
> > > disciplinary issue and this detention center that he "stayed"
> at. I
> > > kept asking if S.H. stayed there to be 100% sure and she was like
> > yes
> > > he stayed there. BUT what I was trying to figure out was if he
> > WORKED
> > > there...and she made herself clear that he LIVED there. Because
> if
> > you
> > > think about it --- it wouldn't be a good idea to throw a cop in a
> > > prison with criminal scum. So preliminary speculation is that he
> was
> > > formerly "disciplined" for something...because I trying really
> hard
> > to
> > > be sure that he wasn't just a prison guard but she was trying to
> > > communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.

I just found out that there was a Japanese language discussion group
between native speakers and students held every week on campus. So
we'll have to wait till next Friday for a confirmation of the info :)

Well babelfish or no babelfish, the info you give to the group are
always interesting.. This one is definitely is. I am wondering though
why he got detained... So he didn't do something criminal... Well
unfortunately, what's going to my head is that he drank a bottle too
many and something happened... I know.. I know... I'm not being
fair... I usually don't think this way of Saitou-sama... Please let
us know soon.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:
> uh oh you think...Tiffany is using babelfish again...
> -NOPE-
> My university had a special event with artists/delegates from the
> Chiba Perfecture Japan (sister city to my city)(dance/kendo
> demo/puppet skit/blurb on the hakkenden etc) and so I attended the
event.
> I just ~happen~ to be carrying around the book Saitou Hajime No
Subete
> with me and I tried to communicate with them. Fortunatly, they
happen
> to know about the Shinsengumi (one lady definately knew about S.H.
> based on the film Mibugishiden because I heard her say Sato
> Hiroshi---the name of the actor who played S.H. in the film---I'm
> pretty sure) and so they were flipping through the book and
chattering
> amongst themselves for a while and I was just standing there like
the
> idiot that I am...I didn't want to impose and say "translate this
> now!" (Like we do to Serizawa Kamo and Shimazuryu)...of all the pics
> they picked out ones of where Saitou lived before finding work in
Tokyo...
>
> p.147 +148 (Shimazuryu if you are interested) pic shows a forest and
> the 2nd shows an empty field (used to have houses)
>
> p.214 is VERY interesting BECAUSE it shows a pretty modern building
> used as a detention center. The lady was explaining to me that it
> wasn't a prison/jail but a "place where people could not leave until
> they know they did wrong"...so I was trying to ask her if he
committed
> a crime or did something 'bad' (robbery, murder etc) of some sort
and
> she said 'no' and she was skimming the pages and asked whether he
was
> a police officer? And I was like "yes" (so the pages must deal w/
> Fujita Goro time frame)...she kept using the word "discipline" and
so
> she was trying to convey something to do with being a policeman,
> disciplinary issue and this detention center that he "stayed" at. I
> kept asking if S.H. stayed there to be 100% sure and she was like
yes
> he stayed there. BUT what I was trying to figure out was if he
WORKED
> there...and she made herself clear that he LIVED there. Because if
you
> think about it --- it wouldn't be a good idea to throw a cop in a
> prison with criminal scum. So preliminary speculation is that he was
> formerly "disciplined" for something...because I trying really hard
to
> be sure that he wasn't just a prison guard but she was trying to
> communicate that he did something 'bad' but not 'criminal'.
>
> Geez...maybe there is something to S.H. being a "psycho-cop" as
Misao
> said -_-
>
> Will scan pics when I can get to a scanner.

Wait till Friday evening...hopefully some of the native speakers at my
univ. can help.

You know, I read some stuff on gastric ulcers...they aren't caused by
drinking...but by excessive smoking...on one site it is mentioned that
yes, alcoholism -used- to be blamed.

Ofcourse he drank...if I'm understanding the Japanese sites he even
competed in drinking contests while he was in the Shinsengumi.

Yeah, Grace I was thinking along the same lines as you too:) And
would his superiors care if he roughed up some criminals? Maybe
another officer made an off hand comment about the Shinsengumi and he
taught them a lesson or something LOL

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Grace Battista" wrote:
what's going to my head is that he drank a bottle too
> many and something happened... I know.. I know... I'm not being
> fair... I usually don't think this way of Saitou-sama... Please let
> us know soon.

I'm just keeping you all updated. A Japanese language instructor at
my univ. will be translating it and she emailed me to inform me that
she'll have it ready on Saturday.......the wait is killing me......man
what did he do -_-

Tiffany wrote:

>I'm just keeping you all updated. A Japanese language instructor at
>my univ. will be translating it and she emailed me to inform me that
>she'll have it ready on Saturday.......the wait is killing me......man
>what did he do -_-
>
>
>
>

Too bad I don't have a suitable "prize" we could do a contest and
whoever comes closest to the truth wins!

--
Barbara Sheridan

http://www.barbarasheridan.net

aaaahhh clarification...why WHY did the lady talk about
"police"...screwed up everything...this occurs earlier in his life
(Homer Simpson) DOH!

html file will be uploaded in the FILES section

From Saitou Hajime no subete p. 218 (translated by a kind Japanese
language instructor)
----------------------------------------------------------
"Temple Sooji-ji where Hajime Saitoo (Denpachi Ichinose) was on his
best behavior"
(Address: 1-7-22 Tera-machi, Jooetsu-shi, Niigata-pre)

You can see Sooji-temple opposite to the city assembly hall at 1-7-22
Teramachi if you get off at Takada station on the main line between
Nagano and Niigata, take a way toward south, and turn to right at a T
corner.

After Boshin-war , samurais of the old Aizu Clan who fought against
Meiji government outside of Aizu-wakamatsu castle were on their best
behaviors at Tera-machi of Takada. According to (1)Takada Omote
On-azukari Hitobito Betsu in (2) Takada Kinshinchuu Zakki that lists
people who were put them on their best behaviors, Hajime Saitoo is
recorded as Denpachi Ichinose among Suzaku menbers who were
accommodated in Temple Sooji-ji. According to (3) Aihan Hokuetsu
Takada Kinshinnin Mei, (4) Echigo Takada Tsume Myoosai Yuujin Choo,
and (5) Aizu-han Takada Yuushuu Meibo, while he was on his best
behaviors, he is recorded as his false name, Denpachi Ichinose again.

It is confirmed by the list that puts the names of people who
immigrated to Tonan in 1869, that Hajime Saitoo used the name, Goroo
Fujita when he moved to Tonan. He moved to Goko after he changed his
name from Denpachi Ichinose to Goroo Fujita, and became a Tonan citizen.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:

> aaaahhh clarification...why WHY did the lady talk about
> "police"...screwed up everything...this occurs earlier in his life
> (Homer Simpson) DOH!

Well, the lady who mentioned policemen etc was skimming the
book...oops not her fault she was trying her best to explain things to me.

Notice in Translation?:
---------------------------------------
Hajime Saitoo is
"recorded as Denpachi Ichinose among Suzaku menbers who were
accommodated in Temple Sooji-ji."
---------------------------------------

This refers back to "Remembering Aizu:The Testament of SHiba Goro" ed.
by Ishimitsu Mahito Translated by Teruko Craig
Page 45
"Shujakutai (South): Men from eighteen to thirty-five, who would
engage in actual combat"

Shujakutai=Suzaku (those of you who have seen Fushigi Yuugi know that
this means phoenix)

I guess I don't really understand... So Saitou was accomodated at
Tera-machi, under a different name... Oh how many names can there
be? :O)
Well when it says "best behavior", what does that mean? As it said
this place was for Aizu samurais who fought against the Meiji... So
does this mean that they were actually being detained? Or did they
detain themselves "at will" (in best behavior), because doing
otherwise would be futile? What does this best behavior meant?

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:
> aaaahhh clarification...why WHY did the lady talk about
> "police"...screwed up everything...this occurs earlier in his life
> (Homer Simpson) DOH!
>
> html file will be uploaded in the FILES section
>
> From Saitou Hajime no subete p. 218 (translated by a kind Japanese
> language instructor)
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> "Temple Sooji-ji where Hajime Saitoo (Denpachi Ichinose) was on his
> best behavior"
> (Address: 1-7-22 Tera-machi, Jooetsu-shi, Niigata-pre)
>
> You can see Sooji-temple opposite to the city assembly hall at 1-7-
22
> Teramachi if you get off at Takada station on the main line between
> Nagano and Niigata, take a way toward south, and turn to right at a
T
> corner.
>
> After Boshin-war , samurais of the old Aizu Clan who fought against
> Meiji government outside of Aizu-wakamatsu castle were on their best
> behaviors at Tera-machi of Takada. According to (1)Takada Omote
> On-azukari Hitobito Betsu in (2) Takada Kinshinchuu Zakki that lists
> people who were put them on their best behaviors, Hajime Saitoo is
> recorded as Denpachi Ichinose among Suzaku menbers who were
> accommodated in Temple Sooji-ji. According to (3) Aihan Hokuetsu
> Takada Kinshinnin Mei, (4) Echigo Takada Tsume Myoosai Yuujin Choo,
> and (5) Aizu-han Takada Yuushuu Meibo, while he was on his best
> behaviors, he is recorded as his false name, Denpachi Ichinose
again.
>
> It is confirmed by the list that puts the names of people who
> immigrated to Tonan in 1869, that Hajime Saitoo used the name, Goroo
> Fujita when he moved to Tonan. He moved to Goko after he changed
his
> name from Denpachi Ichinose to Goroo Fujita, and became a Tonan
citizen.

I met ~very~ briefly with the translator today...she is a Japanese
language instructor with a specialization in linguistics and your
question was on my list.

"best behavior" isn't a description -all- the time, it is like a stock
phrase to label prisoners, [but] in this specific case he was really
was a good prisoner...it is a detention center on the grounds of a
Buddhist temple...if you recall back to the Miburo Yahoo Groups list
we did list his names (this is from memory)
1) Yamaguchi Hajime (also written as Hazime)
2) Saitou/o/oh Hajime
3) Yamaguchi Jiro/u
4) Denpachi Ichinohe
5) Fujita Goro/ou

*this translation further proves the accuracy of the the book
"Remembering Aizu:The Testament of Shiba Goro" which describes the
exact same thing. Samurai detained in various camps were even allowed
to leave the camp to but medicine for example as long as they were
"good"/trustworthy and according to the book many samurai had too much
pride to just run away (perhaps part of the "rules" of engagement if
there any really)

*Tonan=Tonami Shimokita, the translator explained...thus he was
detained here and then moved

*I really wanted to ask her more but she seemed busy and I didn't want
to annoy her that is all the info I could get :)

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Grace Battista" wrote:
> I guess I don't really understand... So Saitou was accomodated at
> Tera-machi, under a different name... Oh how many names can there
> be? :O)What does this best behavior meant?
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Tiffany" wrote:

> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > "Temple Sooji-ji where Hajime Saitoo (Denpachi Ichinose) was on his
> > best behavior"
> > (Address: 1-7-22 Tera-machi, Jooetsu-shi, Niigata-pre)
> >
> > You can see Sooji-temple opposite to the city assembly hall at 1-7-
> 22
> > Teramachi if you get off at Takada station on the main line between
> > Nagano and Niigata, take a way toward south, and turn to right at a
> T
> > corner.
> >
> > After Boshin-war , samurais of the old Aizu Clan who fought against
> > Meiji government outside of Aizu-wakamatsu castle were on their best
> > behaviors at Tera-machi of Takada. According to (1)Takada Omote
> > On-azukari Hitobito Betsu in (2) Takada Kinshinchuu Zakki that lists
> > people who were put them on their best behaviors, Hajime Saitoo is
> > recorded as Denpachi Ichinose among Suzaku menbers who were
> > accommodated in Temple Sooji-ji. According to (3) Aihan Hokuetsu
> > Takada Kinshinnin Mei, (4) Echigo Takada Tsume Myoosai Yuujin Choo,
> > and (5) Aizu-han Takada Yuushuu Meibo, while he was on his best
> > behaviors, he is recorded as his false name, Denpachi Ichinose
> again.
> >
> > It is confirmed by the list that puts the names of people who
> > immigrated to Tonan in 1869, that Hajime Saitoo used the name, Goroo
> > Fujita when he moved to Tonan. He moved to Goko after he changed
> his
> > name from Denpachi Ichinose to Goroo Fujita, and became a Tonan
> citizen.