Hi Maximo,
No 8 is Keicho shinto. I'm haven't heard Keigen used too much. Usually
people refer to that shape as Keicho. There is a translation of the official
NBTHK explanation for that diagram on my page if you click on the History
button.
http://www.thejapanesesword.com/
Best
Paul
>From: "Duncan Cadd" <dunckx@...>
>Reply-To: token_kenkyu_kai@...
>To: <token_kenkyu_kai@...>
>Subject: RE: Keigen shinto or Keygen shinto
>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:10:01 +0100
>
>Hi Maximo,
>
>I doubt I can answer your questions, but thank you so much for posting the
>link to the fascinating Token Sugita article. A great read.
>
>The swordsmith in this article who made the modern tanto from the Corus
>"namban tetsu", Takano Yukimitsu, was trained by Ono Yoshimitsu as the
>article says and he specialises in ayasugi hada of the Gassan school,
>though
>I have to say I could not see any evidence of that in the photos of the
>tanto on the website.
>
>I will have to leave it to other listeros to comment on the hada of the
>Yasutsugu smiths. I believe they usually made a very tight itame,
>sometimes
>mixed with mokume, and that the shinogi ji was often masame, but I bow to
>superior knowledge.
>
>Best regards,
>Dunckx
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: token_kenkyu_kai-owner@...
>[mailto:token_kenkyu_kai-owner@...] On Behalf Of Maximo
>Sent: 03 September 2007 14:42
>To: token_kenkyu_kai@...
>Subject: Keigen shinto or Keygen shinto
>
>Please,
>Does anyone have info about this school? in special about Nanban-Tetsu,
>type
>of hada?
>http://www.tokensugita.com/NT.htm
>Is the Yasutsugu school a good example?
>http://www.nihonto.com/abtartyasutsugu.html
>
>Keigen-Shinto period (1596 - 1623)
>Kissaki = O-kissaki (could it have a little ikari kissaki?)
>Sori = less than half inch?
>Nagasa = 70 cm?
>Hada = Very tight itame?
>Hamon = type ko-choji?
>Nakago = ?
>Any particular thing?
>
>Is the number 11 or number 8 Keygen shinto?
>http://www.touken.or.jp/syurui/tokuchozu.html
>Which is the principal difference with last muromachi?
>Thank you in advance,
>M�ximo
>
>M�ximo D. Marchionni
>www.maximom.com.ar
>Maximo@...
>
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