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#9445 [2007-03-14 13:02:54]

Poor NobuNaga on Samurai Deeper Kyo

by keiman0

I have just finished reading all about the great Oda Nobunaga of the
Toshogowa Clan (hope I spelt that correctly) and then I was watching
Samurai Deeper Kyo the other evening and wowie- The noble Nobunaga has
been cast as the main villain of the piece (Spoilers)

He is supposedly a demon king who came to earth four years ago at the
Battle of Sekigahara (which I now know was in 1600) and is seeking his
body as is Kyo or Demon Eyes Kyo as they call him. Why? So he can be
resurrected as a terrible monster and take over Earth.

I was saddened to see such a noble hero thus portrayed. More later
perhaps. Have a glorious day. Toodles-K&K

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#9446 [2007-03-16 08:47:30]

Re: Poor NobuNaga on Samurai Deeper Kyo

by banditt_adams

You would be suprised how often Nobunaga is cast as a demon-type
villain in anime and video games. Or just a villain in general.

Nagashino was a tactical brilliance that revolutionized warfare, but a
*lot* of folks didnt think it was to honorable. Plus he was a little
taken with being eccentric and anything foreign. Many saw him as the
downfall of society if he had ruled Japan.

Madman, Genius, same thing :)
-Jason


--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "keiman0" wrote:
>
> I have just finished reading all about the great Oda Nobunaga of the
> Toshogowa Clan (hope I spelt that correctly) and then I was watching
> Samurai Deeper Kyo the other evening and wowie- The noble Nobunaga has
> been cast as the main villain of the piece (Spoilers)
>
> He is supposedly a demon king who came to earth four years ago at the
> Battle of Sekigahara (which I now know was in 1600) and is seeking his
> body as is Kyo or Demon Eyes Kyo as they call him. Why? So he can be
> resurrected as a terrible monster and take over Earth.
>
> I was saddened to see such a noble hero thus portrayed. More later
> perhaps. Have a glorious day. Toodles-K&K
>

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#9461 [2007-03-19 09:32:24]

Re: Poor NobuNaga and Shinsengumi on Samurai Deeper Kyo

by keiman0

--Bad enough that poor Nobunaga is cast as the villain. Now they are
using the Mibu Clan (the Shinsengumi) as the baddies too. They come
off after last night's eppy as being a cross twixt alchemists and
the 'True Knights' (the Knights Templar aka the Rosicrucians or
Knights of the Rosy Cross) of the Crusades. There are striking
similarities too. Both had a working knowledge of nature, both were
concerned with history, both used alchemy (what else is Kyo's body
but an alchemical wonder?), both were rumoured to possess secrets of
time travel, both were wealthy and both were persecuted by the higher-
ups. After all that is why Friday the 13th is unlucky. It's the day
the Pope hanged Sir Gilles de Mourignay the Templar Leader for
refusing to disclose the location of the Templar fortune. By the way,
the Templars founded the banking industry and created credit cards
too. One more thing- Mageria has the secret of seeing the future. Is
he also a Mibu Clansman? This explains how Yui (think I got it spelt
OK this time) or rather her brother came to possess a weapon not to
be invented for a few more centuries. Time travel? If I knew all this
stuff about SDK I would have added some of 'em to my ff. Well more
soon since tonight is the demonic castle at Sekigahara. A last note
here- Is it a coincidence that Kyoto (old capitol) and Tokyo (new
capitol) are anagrams of each other? See you soon. Kami bless.
Toodles-K&K

- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Adams"
wrote:
>
> You would be suprised how often Nobunaga is cast as a demon-type
> villain in anime and video games. Or just a villain in general.
>
> Nagashino was a tactical brilliance that revolutionized warfare,
but a
> *lot* of folks didnt think it was to honorable. Plus he was a
little
> taken with being eccentric and anything foreign. Many saw him as
the
> downfall of society if he had ruled Japan.
>
> Madman, Genius, same thing :)
> -Jason
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "keiman0"
wrote:
> >
> > I have just finished reading all about the great Oda Nobunaga of
the
> > Toshogowa Clan (hope I spelt that correctly) and then I was
watching
> > Samurai Deeper Kyo the other evening and wowie- The noble
Nobunaga has
> > been cast as the main villain of the piece (Spoilers)
> >
> > He is supposedly a demon king who came to earth four years ago at
the
> > Battle of Sekigahara (which I now know was in 1600) and is
seeking his
> > body as is Kyo or Demon Eyes Kyo as they call him. Why? So he can
be
> > resurrected as a terrible monster and take over Earth.
> >
> > I was saddened to see such a noble hero thus portrayed. More
later
> > perhaps. Have a glorious day. Toodles-K&K
> >
>

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