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#9233 [2006-12-12 16:02:54]

CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATLY!

by guildman95

Hello,

I'm a student and need to write a paper for a research project. I was
going to interview someone with samurai ancestory, but I lost the phone
number and now I can't interview her. So, I remembered you guys and
thought you could help. I need to ask you a series of questions:

1. What made you interested in samurai?

2. Do you have any samurai ancestors?

3.Do you have any artifacts? If so, describe them.

4.What were the early samurai like?

5. What are the different types/ranks of a samurai?

6. How does the life of a samurai differ from the life of a non-samurai?

Thank you very much.

Respond ASAP!!!! It's due tomarow!!!!!

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#9234 [2006-12-12 21:39:39]

Re: [samuraihistory] CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATLY!

by martinisword9

you can do your own research. your inability to meet your deadlines is not a crisis on part to resolve.

good luck.




----- Original Message -----
From: guildman95
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATLY!


Hello,

I'm a student and need to write a paper for a research project. I was
going to interview someone with samurai ancestory, but I lost the phone
number and now I can't interview her. So, I remembered you guys and
thought you could help. I need to ask you a series of questions:

1. What made you interested in samurai?

2. Do you have any samurai ancestors?

3.Do you have any artifacts? If so, describe them.

4.What were the early samurai like?

5. What are the different types/ranks of a samurai?

6. How does the life of a samurai differ from the life of a non-samurai?

Thank you very much.

Respond ASAP!!!! It's due tomarow!!!!!





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#9262 [2007-01-06 00:45:31]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by meltroniks

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "guildman95" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm a student and need to write a paper for a research project. I was
> going to interview someone with samurai ancestory, but I lost the phone
> number and now I can't interview her. So, I remembered you guys and
> thought you could help. I need to ask you a series of questions:
>
> 1. What made you interested in samurai?
>
> 2. Do you have any samurai ancestors?
>
> 3.Do you have any artifacts? If so, describe them.
>
> 4.What were the early samurai like?
>
> 5. What are the different types/ranks of a samurai?
>
> 6. How does the life of a samurai differ from the life of a non-samurai?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Respond ASAP!!!! It's due tomarow!!!!!
>
It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very strict and
ritualistic lifestyle. They were under the service of and dedicated
fully to a daimyo or lord. most Were paid in rice, which was farmed by
the underclass which were not allowed to wear the swords. Any samurai
who wished to test out his new shinken or (real sword),for a price
could cut down a criminal who had been caught as Japan had no prisons.
Death was the customary punishment for every offense. Sometimes
samurai would cut down innocent people to test their steel if no one
was looking but this was most likely not the norm. Samurai means to
serve and a samurai was also called bushi being the plural or bujin
for one of them. Most of Japan's population consisted of lower class
farmers however until later on in the history when Japan began to
adopt more western ways. Guns were introduced by the first europeans
but not given or sold to them one man made a sketch of one of the guns
and within 6 months there were guns aplenty. The samurai adopted their
use for a short time until they were considered dishonorable and the
samurai abandoned there use willingly. The use of a jo or staff was
the weapon used by almost all japanese poeple and the main weapon of
the lower class to defend against the samurai. Then there were the
Ninja. This was an illegal occupation but Hattori Hanzo who was ninja
is mentioned in the history as bushi. They were the spies and assasins
of old japan and were hired out by a diamyo to obtain information or
deal with an enemy lord. They employed many dishonorable tactics and
devices including throwing venomous snakes on their foes. Samurai
would stand and state their name and such before fighting in duels
which usually lasted 30 seconds or less.Ninja did not and snuk around
and disguised themselves and such. Ninja were more effective in combat
than most samurai though and usually acted alone. Slaying a sleeping
army and other similar antics. Honor meant everything to the samurai
and they would not hesitate to commit hara kiri done with the
wakizashi one would stick the blade into his gut with the goal of
cutting the spine from the front then another would end his suffering
with a beheading. Someone the former had chosen to assist him in
restoring his honor. A samurai could probably take down a charging
bull but I would not expect the could have tussled succesfully with a
grizzly bear.

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#9265 [2007-01-06 04:26:29]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by kurotatsunoshi

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "meltroniks" wrote:
"It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very strict and
ritualistic lifestyle......(lots cut out in the interests of keeping my post short).......A samurai could probably take down a charging bull but I would not expect the could have tussled succesfully with a grizzly bear."


Whoah-this post was so full of 'sammyrai' misconceptions and misinformation that I can't even begin to try to straighten it out. I hope the writer was trying to be humorous and if so, they really should have indicated that in their post.

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#9267 [2007-01-06 05:15:13]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

Meltroniks, this is so unbelievably full of nothing
but stereotypical crap I'm not even sure where to
begin, so I'll begin by pointing you to the top 11
misconceptions regarding the Samurai:

http://www.geocities.com/klancesegall/home.htm

Go there, read it all, and do so before posting again.
Now, I'll get to the content of your post, edited in
text below.


--- meltroniks <meltroniks@...> wrote:
> It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very
> strict and
> ritualistic lifestyle.

Some did, some didn't.

They were under the service
> of and dedicated
> fully to a daimyo or lord.

You've been watching too many anime or movies.

most Were paid in rice,
> which was farmed by
> the underclass which were not allowed to wear the
> swords.

Post-sword hunt, that's correct. Before the 1590's,
that would be a complete fallacy. Even during the Edo
period, commoners were allowed to carry personal
protection weapons, to include short swords.

Any samurai
> who wished to test out his new shinken or (real
> sword),for a price
> could cut down a criminal who had been caught as
> Japan had no prisons.

Japan most definitely had prisons. Not sure where the
hell you came up with that one.

> Death was the customary punishment for every
> offense. Sometimes
> samurai would cut down innocent people to test their
> steel if no one
> was looking but this was most likely not the norm.

"Me? No, I didn't cut that guy down...you didn't see
me, did you? Nope, wasn't me..."


> Samurai means to
> serve and a samurai was also called bushi being the
> plural or bujin
> for one of them.

"bushi" isn't the plural of "bujin". Japanese has no
plural or singular--the plural of "bushi" is "bushi",
the singular of "bushi" is "bushi. Plural or singular
is determined by context or counters.

Guns were introduced by the
> first europeans
> but not given or sold to them one man made a sketch
> of one of the guns
> and within 6 months there were guns aplenty.

Wow, this is so wrong it's not even funny. There's no
possible way that someone who'd never seen one before
could make a sketch of an arquebus and then create
one. The swordmaker of the lord of Tanegashima island,
where the first Portuguese landed and demonstrated
firearms, aquired several arquebuses, and was able to
do everything except figure out how to seal the
barrel. For the secret to this, he traded his daughter
to a Portuguese merchant.


The
> samurai adopted their
> use for a short time until they were considered
> dishonorable and the
> samurai abandoned there use willingly.

God, no. No, no, no, no, and no. "Dishonorable" had
nothing to do with anything.

The use of a
> jo or staff was
> the weapon used by almost all japanese poeple and
> the main weapon of
> the lower class to defend against the samurai.

Um, no.

Then
> there were the
> Ninja.

Stop. I can't even begin to read the idiocy you write
here. Go to the link I posted, go read the section on
ninja. You've managed to post every single myth and
Hollywood fantasy possible here, congrats.

They employed many
> dishonorable tactics and
> devices including throwing venomous snakes on their
> foes.

Hmm...that's a new one.

Samurai
> would stand and state their name and such before
> fighting in duels
> which usually lasted 30 seconds or less.

Yes, Samurai stated their names and lineage prior to
battle...a practice that died out before 1300, because
it was completely impractical. This ended essentially
during the Mongol invasions, since those nasty Mongols
didn't play nice and simply shot the brave Samurai in
the middle of his introduction speech.

Ninja did
> not and snuk around
> and disguised themselves and such. Ninja were more
> effective in combat
> than most samurai though and usually acted alone.
> Slaying a sleeping
> army and other similar antics.

Slaying a sleeping army? At once? Wow, those ninjers
are Kool.

Honor meant
> everything to the samurai
> and they would not hesitate to commit hara kiri done
> with the
> wakizashi one would stick the blade into his gut
> with the goal of
> cutting the spine from the front then another would
> end his suffering
> with a beheading. Someone the former had chosen to
> assist him in
> restoring his honor.

Yup, I saw in a comic book that some samurai called
his friend by the wrong name, so to atone he cut his
own stomach right then and there, without even
thinking about it. Those samurai were always
committing suicide...

No. And....no.

A samurai could probably take
> down a charging
> bull but I would not expect the could have tussled
> succesfully with a
> grizzly bear.

Actually, many samurai were successful economically,
in both the prosperous and lean times...

...or did you really mean to give your opinion vis a
vis various animals? まったく。。。。

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#9268 [2007-01-06 05:22:37]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by cepooooo

On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:45 PM, meltroniks wrote:

> A samurai could probably take down a charging
> bull but I would not expect the could have tussled succesfully with a
> grizzly bear.

Are you sure?
I think that if a couple of ninja help the samurai, he could take
down even Godzilla.

cepo

PS = Oh, I got it now. There are no grizzlies in Japan, right?



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#9269 [2007-01-06 08:23:51]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by sengokudaimyo

On Jan 6, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Randy Schadel wrote:

>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "meltroniks"
> wrote:
> "It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very strict and
> ritualistic lifestyle......(lots cut out in the interests of
> keeping my post short).......A samurai could probably take down a
> charging bull but I would not expect the could have tussled
> succesfully with a grizzly bear."
>
> Whoah-this post was so full of 'sammyrai' misconceptions and
> misinformation that I can't even begin to try to straighten it out.
> I hope the writer was trying to be humorous and if so, they really
> should have indicated that in their post.
>
I was twitching as I read it. ;)


Tony

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#9272 [2007-01-06 06:15:14]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by samurai_buraian

I'm still laughing.....


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Ledbetter" <ltdomer98@...>
To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY
IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA


> Meltroniks, this is so unbelievably full of nothing
> but stereotypical crap I'm not even sure where to
> begin, so I'll begin by pointing you to the top 11
> misconceptions regarding the Samurai:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/klancesegall/home.htm
>
> Go there, read it all, and do so before posting again.
> Now, I'll get to the content of your post, edited in
> text below.
>
>
> --- meltroniks <meltroniks@...> wrote:
>> It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very
>> strict and
>> ritualistic lifestyle.
>
> Some did, some didn't.
>
> They were under the service
>> of and dedicated
>> fully to a daimyo or lord.
>
> You've been watching too many anime or movies.
>
> most Were paid in rice,
>> which was farmed by
>> the underclass which were not allowed to wear the
>> swords.
>
> Post-sword hunt, that's correct. Before the 1590's,
> that would be a complete fallacy. Even during the Edo
> period, commoners were allowed to carry personal
> protection weapons, to include short swords.
>
> Any samurai
>> who wished to test out his new shinken or (real
>> sword),for a price
>> could cut down a criminal who had been caught as
>> Japan had no prisons.
>
> Japan most definitely had prisons. Not sure where the
> hell you came up with that one.
>
>> Death was the customary punishment for every
>> offense. Sometimes
>> samurai would cut down innocent people to test their
>> steel if no one
>> was looking but this was most likely not the norm.
>
> "Me? No, I didn't cut that guy down...you didn't see
> me, did you? Nope, wasn't me..."
>
>
>> Samurai means to
>> serve and a samurai was also called bushi being the
>> plural or bujin
>> for one of them.
>
> "bushi" isn't the plural of "bujin". Japanese has no
> plural or singular--the plural of "bushi" is "bushi",
> the singular of "bushi" is "bushi. Plural or singular
> is determined by context or counters.
>
> Guns were introduced by the
>> first europeans
>> but not given or sold to them one man made a sketch
>> of one of the guns
>> and within 6 months there were guns aplenty.
>
> Wow, this is so wrong it's not even funny. There's no
> possible way that someone who'd never seen one before
> could make a sketch of an arquebus and then create
> one. The swordmaker of the lord of Tanegashima island,
> where the first Portuguese landed and demonstrated
> firearms, aquired several arquebuses, and was able to
> do everything except figure out how to seal the
> barrel. For the secret to this, he traded his daughter
> to a Portuguese merchant.
>
>
> The
>> samurai adopted their
>> use for a short time until they were considered
>> dishonorable and the
>> samurai abandoned there use willingly.
>
> God, no. No, no, no, no, and no. "Dishonorable" had
> nothing to do with anything.
>
> The use of a
>> jo or staff was
>> the weapon used by almost all japanese poeple and
>> the main weapon of
>> the lower class to defend against the samurai.
>
> Um, no.
>
> Then
>> there were the
>> Ninja.
>
> Stop. I can't even begin to read the idiocy you write
> here. Go to the link I posted, go read the section on
> ninja. You've managed to post every single myth and
> Hollywood fantasy possible here, congrats.
>
> They employed many
>> dishonorable tactics and
>> devices including throwing venomous snakes on their
>> foes.
>
> Hmm...that's a new one.
>
> Samurai
>> would stand and state their name and such before
>> fighting in duels
>> which usually lasted 30 seconds or less.
>
> Yes, Samurai stated their names and lineage prior to
> battle...a practice that died out before 1300, because
> it was completely impractical. This ended essentially
> during the Mongol invasions, since those nasty Mongols
> didn't play nice and simply shot the brave Samurai in
> the middle of his introduction speech.
>
> Ninja did
>> not and snuk around
>> and disguised themselves and such. Ninja were more
>> effective in combat
>> than most samurai though and usually acted alone.
>> Slaying a sleeping
>> army and other similar antics.
>
> Slaying a sleeping army? At once? Wow, those ninjers
> are Kool.
>
> Honor meant
>> everything to the samurai
>> and they would not hesitate to commit hara kiri done
>> with the
>> wakizashi one would stick the blade into his gut
>> with the goal of
>> cutting the spine from the front then another would
>> end his suffering
>> with a beheading. Someone the former had chosen to
>> assist him in
>> restoring his honor.
>
> Yup, I saw in a comic book that some samurai called
> his friend by the wrong name, so to atone he cut his
> own stomach right then and there, without even
> thinking about it. Those samurai were always
> committing suicide...
>
> No. And....no.
>
> A samurai could probably take
>> down a charging
>> bull but I would not expect the could have tussled
>> succesfully with a
>> grizzly bear.
>
> Actually, many samurai were successful economically,
> in both the prosperous and lean times...
>
> ...or did you really mean to give your opinion vis a
> vis various animals?
> まったく。。。。
>
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#9273 [2007-01-06 09:19:20]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by acathrall

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Bryant
wrote:
>hey Tony I'll let you interview me email me your questions and I
will answer them the best I can
>
> On Jan 6, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Randy Schadel wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "meltroniks"
> > wrote:
> > "It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very strict and
> > ritualistic lifestyle......(lots cut out in the interests of
> > keeping my post short).......A samurai could probably take down
a
> > charging bull but I would not expect the could have tussled
> > succesfully with a grizzly bear."
> >
> > Whoah-this post was so full of 'sammyrai' misconceptions and
> > misinformation that I can't even begin to try to straighten it
out.
> > I hope the writer was trying to be humorous and if so, they
really
> > should have indicated that in their post.
> >
> I was twitching as I read it. ;)
>
>
> Tony
>

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#9275 [2007-01-06 14:50:39]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

--- Anthony Bryant <anthony_bryant@...> wrote:

> I was twitching as I read it. ;)
>
>
> Tony

How did you think I felt as I approved it?

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#9280 [2007-01-07 23:04:51]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by kitsuno

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "meltroniks"
wrote:

> >
> It is my understanding that the samurai lived a very strict and
> ritualistic lifestyle. They were under the service of and dedicated
> fully to a daimyo or lord. most Were paid in rice, which was farmed by
> the underclass which were not allowed to wear the swords. Any samurai
> who wished to test out his new shinken or (real sword),for a price
> could cut down a criminal who had been caught as Japan had no prisons.
> Death was the customary punishment for every offense. Sometimes
> samurai would cut down innocent people to test their steel if no one
> was looking but this was most likely not the norm. Samurai means to
> serve and a samurai was also called bushi being the plural or bujin
> for one of them. Most of Japan's population consisted of lower class
> farmers however until later on in the history when Japan began to
> adopt more western ways. Guns were introduced by the first europeans
> but not given or sold to them one man made a sketch of one of the guns
> and within 6 months there were guns aplenty. The samurai adopted their
> use for a short time until they were considered dishonorable and the
> samurai abandoned there use willingly. The use of a jo or staff was
> the weapon used by almost all japanese poeple and the main weapon of
> the lower class to defend against the samurai. Then there were the
> Ninja. This was an illegal occupation but Hattori Hanzo who was ninja
> is mentioned in the history as bushi. They were the spies and assasins
> of old japan and were hired out by a diamyo to obtain information or
> deal with an enemy lord. They employed many dishonorable tactics and
> devices including throwing venomous snakes on their foes. Samurai
> would stand and state their name and such before fighting in duels
> which usually lasted 30 seconds or less.Ninja did not and snuk around
> and disguised themselves and such. Ninja were more effective in combat
> than most samurai though and usually acted alone. Slaying a sleeping
> army and other similar antics. Honor meant everything to the samurai
> and they would not hesitate to commit hara kiri done with the
> wakizashi one would stick the blade into his gut with the goal of
> cutting the spine from the front then another would end his suffering
> with a beheading. Someone the former had chosen to assist him in
> restoring his honor. A samurai could probably take down a charging
> bull but I would not expect the could have tussled succesfully with a
> grizzly bear.
>


That was bloody sensational.

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#9281 [2007-01-07 23:40:44]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

--- Kitsuno <samurai-listowner@...>
wrote:

> That was bloody sensational.

At first I thought it was you, trying to F with me.


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#9282 [2007-01-08 00:29:09]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by kitsuno

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter
wrote:
>
>
> --- Kitsuno
> wrote:
>
> > That was bloody sensational.
>
> At first I thought it was you, trying to F with me.
>

I only wish I could come up with something so brilliantly ridiculous.

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#9283 [2007-01-08 01:43:25]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

--- Kitsuno <samurai-listowner@...>
wrote:

> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate
> Ledbetter
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- Kitsuno
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That was bloody sensational.
> >
> > At first I thought it was you, trying to F with
> me.
> >
>
> I only wish I could come up with something so
> brilliantly ridiculous.
>
>


Yeah, the throwing of snakes did it for me--there's no
way you'd come up with that. That was TOO out there.

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#9284 [2007-01-08 03:55:03]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by kurotatsunoshi

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter wrote:
>
>
> --- Kitsuno
> wrote:
In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter wrote:
"Yeah, the throwing of snakes did it for me--there's no way you'd come up with that. That was TOO out there."

I dunno-didn't Stephen Hayes write that ninja clans were actually founded by evangelistic snake-handling cultists driven out of the United States? I believe it was in his latest book, 'Slithering Shinobi:Reptile Weapons Of The Ninja', which also includes the famous ninja 'turtle boat' adapted from Korean designs.


But yeah, I too originally thought it was a regular having some fun.

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#9285 [2007-01-08 04:10:25]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by pegios

The point has been made and rammed into all our inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone typed a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now can't stop laughing about it again and again.

Is it not time to move on, people?

Randy Schadel <ayamechiba@...> wrote:
--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter wrote:
>
>
> --- Kitsuno
> wrote:
In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate Ledbetter wrote:
"Yeah, the throwing of snakes did it for me--there's no way you'd come up with that. That was TOO out there."

I dunno-didn't Stephen Hayes write that ninja clans were actually founded by evangelistic snake-handling cultists driven out of the United States? I believe it was in his latest book, 'Slithering Shinobi:Reptile Weapons Of The Ninja', which also includes the famous ninja 'turtle boat' adapted from Korean designs.


But yeah, I too originally thought it was a regular having some fun.





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#9286 [2007-01-08 14:24:02]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

--- george pegios <pegios@...> wrote:

> The point has been made and rammed into all our
> inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone typed
> a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us
> knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now
> can't stop laughing about it again and again.
>
> Is it not time to move on, people?

Right after I point out that Japan has no indigenous
poisonous snakes outside of the Habu snake which
solely lives in Okinawa. They simply don't exist, so
apparently ninja were able to breed poisonous snakes
as well.

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#9287 [2007-01-08 16:36:21]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by Clive Sinclaire

----- Original Message -----
From: Nate Ledbetter
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:43 AM
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--- Kitsuno <samurai-listowner@...>
wrote:

> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Nate
> Ledbetter
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- Kitsuno
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That was bloody sensational.
> >
> > At first I thought it was you, trying to F with
> me.
> >
>
> I only wish I could come up with something so
> brilliantly ridiculous.
>
>

Yeah, the throwing of snakes did it for me--there's no
way you'd come up with that. That was TOO out there.

Strangely enough, Kurihara Hikasaburo, the great Showa period sword patron who was also a politician, did throw a live snake at an opponent in the Diet! Not a samurai, but close, I guess.

Clive Sinclaire

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#9288 [2007-01-09 06:37:57]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by Stephen Poroszlay

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/060528icecream/2.html

You can turn the tables on the snake though

Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:

--- george pegios <pegios@...> wrote:

> The point has been made and rammed into all our
> inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone typed
> a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us
> knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now
> can't stop laughing about it again and again.
>
> Is it not time to move on, people?

Right after I point out that Japan has no indigenous
poisonous snakes outside of the Habu snake which
solely lives in Okinawa. They simply don't exist, so
apparently ninja were able to breed poisonous snakes
as well.

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#9289 [2007-01-08 23:20:51]

RE: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by johnandterumiperry

Hey everyone,



My name is John Perry and I have been a lurker for a while and this is my
first post.

To give a quick introduction of myself I’ve been living in Fukuoka, Japan
for about

8 years now practicing mainly Aikido but also Iaido, Kyudo, and Shodo and I
work as a

Scuba Diving Instructor and an Outdoor Guide and have been enjoying this
group very much

as I have a keen interest in Japanese history.



I don’t mean to prolong this thread too much longer but I just wanted to
clarify a comment made about

there only being poisonous snakes in Okinawa. While the Habu is probably
the most infamous

snake in Japan there are quite a few poisonous snakes throughout Japan, all
the way to Hokkaido.

This is a link to a web page I found about snakes in Japan and if you scroll
down you will find a family

of poisonous snakes and a brief description of there geographic
distribution.



http://homepage3.nifty.com/japrep/snake/ejaphebi.htm



Sorry for my first post to be a bit off topic but I though it might be
relevant to this current discussion.



Cheers,



John



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On Behalf Of Nate Ledbetter
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:24 AM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY
IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA




--- george pegios com> wrote:

> The point has been made and rammed into all our
> inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone typed
> a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us
> knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now
> can't stop laughing about it again and again.
>
> Is it not time to move on, people?

Right after I point out that Japan has no indigenous
poisonous snakes outside of the Habu snake which
solely lives in Okinawa. They simply don't exist, so
apparently ninja were able to breed poisonous snakes
as well.

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#9290 [2007-01-09 06:33:49]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by Stephen Poroszlay

Hi

It does in the form of Mamushi

http://www.nih.go.jp/JJID/59/20.pdf

I've personally seen them in Aichi

Steve

Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:

--- george pegios <pegios@...> wrote:

> The point has been made and rammed into all our
> inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone typed
> a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us
> knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now
> can't stop laughing about it again and again.
>
> Is it not time to move on, people?

Right after I point out that Japan has no indigenous
poisonous snakes outside of the Habu snake which
solely lives in Okinawa. They simply don't exist, so
apparently ninja were able to breed poisonous snakes
as well.

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#9291 [2007-01-10 01:04:00]

RE: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

As several posters have pointed out, I was wrong about
poisonous snakes in Japan--you learn something new
everyday. Still, I doubt they were thrown as weapons
by ninja. But, in sincere honesty, thanks to John and
the other posters who've posted the information (with
sources, even!) about Japanese poisonous snakes.
THAT's the way to show someone they're incorrect!

Nate

--- John Perry wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
>
>
> My name is John Perry and I have been a lurker for a
> while and this is my
> first post.
>
> To give a quick introduction of myself I’ve been
> living in Fukuoka, Japan
> for about
>
> 8 years now practicing mainly Aikido but also Iaido,
> Kyudo, and Shodo and I
> work as a
>
> Scuba Diving Instructor and an Outdoor Guide and
> have been enjoying this
> group very much
>
> as I have a keen interest in Japanese history.
>
>
>
> I don’t mean to prolong this thread too much longer
> but I just wanted to
> clarify a comment made about
>
> there only being poisonous snakes in Okinawa. While
> the Habu is probably
> the most infamous
>
> snake in Japan there are quite a few poisonous
> snakes throughout Japan, all
> the way to Hokkaido.
>
> This is a link to a web page I found about snakes in
> Japan and if you scroll
> down you will find a family
>
> of poisonous snakes and a brief description of there
> geographic
> distribution.
>
>
>
> http://homepage3.nifty.com/japrep/snake/ejaphebi.htm
>
>
>
> Sorry for my first post to be a bit off topic but I
> though it might be
> relevant to this current discussion.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Nate Ledbetter
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:24 AM
> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED
> INTERVIEW. VERY
> IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA
>
>
>
>
> --- george pegios > com> wrote:
>
> > The point has been made and rammed into all our
> > inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone
> typed
> > a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us
> > knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now
> > can't stop laughing about it again and again.
> >
> > Is it not time to move on, people?
>
> Right after I point out that Japan has no indigenous
> poisonous snakes outside of the Habu snake which
> solely lives in Okinawa. They simply don't exist, so
> apparently ninja were able to breed poisonous snakes
> as well.
>
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#9292 [2007-01-10 01:10:38]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by cepooooo

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:04 PM, Nate Ledbetter wrote:

> As several posters have pointed out, I was wrong about
> poisonous snakes in Japan--you learn something new
> everyday. Still, I doubt they were thrown as weapons
> by ninja. But, in sincere honesty, thanks to John and
> the other posters who've posted the information (with
> sources, even!) about Japanese poisonous snakes.
> THAT's the way to show someone they're incorrect!
>
> Nate

Sorry, I do not fancy to go on and read about Japanese snakes, but
isn't that there is a difference between 'poisonous' and 'lethal' ?
You mean that in Japan there are snakes that can actually kill you?

I ask, because I really have NO idea and I am too lazy for a
search... ;oD

If that's the case; however, it seems strange to me they have not
been used often in reality or at least in literature.

Cheers,
cepo

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#9296 [2007-01-10 06:51:21]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by martinisword9

I was wondering, isn't HABU HABU sort of a communal dish that soaks various forms of vegetables and tofu in a hot broth fondue style?

:)






----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Poroszlay
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA


http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/060528icecream/2.html

You can turn the tables on the snake though

Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:

--- george pegios <pegios@...> wrote:

> The point has been made and rammed into all our
> inboxes at an increasingly trite rate: someone typed
> a bunch of ignorant nonesense which the rest of us
> knowledgeable folks found hysterical and we now
> can't stop laughing about it again and again.
>
> Is it not time to move on, people?

Right after I point out that Japan has no indigenous
poisonous snakes outside of the Habu snake which
solely lives in Okinawa. They simply don't exist, so
apparently ninja were able to breed poisonous snakes
as well.

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#9297 [2007-01-10 09:59:38]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by kitsuno

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Fan"
wrote:
>
> I was wondering, isn't HABU HABU sort of a communal dish that soaks
various forms of vegetables and tofu in a hot broth fondue style?
>

That would be "Shabu shabu". Close, but no cigar.

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#9299 [2007-01-10 23:51:41]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIA

by ltdomer98

--- Allan Fan <allan_fan@...> wrote:

> I was wondering, isn't HABU HABU sort of a communal
> dish that soaks various forms of vegetables and tofu
> in a hot broth fondue style?

That's "Shabu Shabu".



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#9300 [2007-01-11 14:02:38]

Re: CLASS PAPER. NEED INTERVIEW. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATLY!

by the_katana_page

Hello Guild,

I wanted to help out on the paper, sorry if I'm late about it...

* For one thing, I am interested in the samurai because they seem
far more sophisticated than any other warrior or soldier from those
times. Honor and discipline were there basic structure in the way of
their lifestyle.

* To honestly tell you the truth, I am American and Puerto Rican, so
no.

* I really have no artifacts accept a functional samurai sword that
i got from a japanese trader i believe, I knew how it was made also
if you wanted to know that~

* Well i think the samurai from earlier times were not that
different than from the ones that we know very much about. the only
thing different that i think of was their swords and fighting back
then. I heard that there swords before the katana were like a
Chinese Tai-Chi.

* I think that they were described by how they were decorated with
the swords, like now our soldiers are decorated by their ribbons and
medals; so they had ranks, there was a samurai, then Master Samurai
I believe.

* Their lifestyle differs from that of a commoner, swordsman,or a
ninja because of their discipline and honor.


--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "guildman95"
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm a student and need to write a paper for a research project. I
was
> going to interview someone with samurai ancestory, but I lost the
phone
> number and now I can't interview her. So, I remembered you guys
and
> thought you could help. I need to ask you a series of questions:
>
> 1. What made you interested in samurai?
>
> 2. Do you have any samurai ancestors?
>
> 3.Do you have any artifacts? If so, describe them.
>
> 4.What were the early samurai like?
>
> 5. What are the different types/ranks of a samurai?
>
> 6. How does the life of a samurai differ from the life of a non-
samurai?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Respond ASAP!!!! It's due tomarow!!!!!
>

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