The New Samurai Archives "Wiki"

We've been working for about a month on getting the new Samurai
Archives wiki ready (Known as the SamuraiWiki) - and I'm putting it
live right now. Here is the URL:

http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/

We really need editors to get in there and start adding content. We
already have hundreds of entries, but since the intent is to make this
the most concise and detailed Wiki on pre-20th century Japan, we'll
need plenty of help. Check the "current events" page for a list of
what we most need:
http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Current_events

Before jumping in and editing, please read through the sections on
correct editing and formatting:
http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Editing_Wiki_Articles_.28Important.29

This is the same software that Wikipedia uses, so the potential for a
great history wiki is limitless - and least of all we have to outdo
wikipedia's sometimes sorry attempt at Japanese history articles. If
you know anyone with any sort of specialty, be it Samurai movies or
history books, let them know about the Wiki - there is a place for all
aspects of Japanese history here.

Thanks,

C.West

That is really great news... Im very pleased to see this concept taking form. I have been disappointed with the articles on wikipedia in the past. I did contribute an article once, but in general I didnt feel it was worth it.

I would definately be willing to add some of my seppuku research when my thesis is complete, if that is something of interest.

jonathan ellgen

Kitsuno <samurai-listowner@...> wrote: We've been working for about a month on getting the new Samurai
Archives wiki ready (Known as the SamuraiWiki) - and I'm putting it
live right now. Here is the URL:

http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/

We really need editors to get in there and start adding content. We
already have hundreds of entries, but since the intent is to make this
the most concise and detailed Wiki on pre-20th century Japan, we'll
need plenty of help. Check the "current events" page for a list of
what we most need:
http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Current_events

Before jumping in and editing, please read through the sections on
correct editing and formatting:
http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Editing_Wiki_Articles_.28Important.29

This is the same software that Wikipedia uses, so the potential for a
great history wiki is limitless - and least of all we have to outdo
wikipedia's sometimes sorry attempt at Japanese history articles. If
you know anyone with any sort of specialty, be it Samurai movies or
history books, let them know about the Wiki - there is a place for all
aspects of Japanese history here.

Thanks,

C.West






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I apologize. I'm supposed to be adding in biographies of the 47 ronin. I've been incredibly busy at work (and other things), and thus no time yet.

Nina aka "Wave Tossed"


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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:58 AM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
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That is really great news... Im very pleased to see this concept taking form. I have been disappointed with the articles on wikipedia in the past. I did contribute an article once, but in general I didnt feel it was worth it.

I would definately be willing to add some of my seppuku research when my thesis is complete, if that is something of interest.

jonathan ellgen

Kitsuno samurai-archives.com> wrote: We've been working for about a month on getting the new Samurai
Archives wiki ready (Known as the SamuraiWiki) - and I'm putting it
live right now. Here is the URL:

http://wiki. samurai-archives.com/

We really need editors to get in there and start adding content. We
already have hundreds of entries, but since the intent is to make this
the most concise and detailed Wiki on pre-20th century Japan, we'll
need plenty of help. Check the "current events" page for a list of
what we most need:
http://wiki. samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Current_events

Before jumping in and editing, please read through the sections on
correct editing and formatting:
http://wiki. samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Editing_Wiki_Articles_.28Important.29

This is the same software that Wikipedia uses, so the potential for a
great history wiki is limitless - and least of all we have to outdo
wikipedia's sometimes sorry attempt at Japanese history articles. If
you know anyone with any sort of specialty, be it Samurai movies or
history books, let them know about the Wiki - there is a place for all
aspects of Japanese history here.

Thanks,

C.West






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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.

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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Boal, Nina" wrote:

>
> I apologize. I'm supposed to be adding in biographies of the 47

ronin. I've been incredibly busy at work (and other things), and thus
no time yet.

>
> Nina aka "Wave Tossed"
>
>

No problem. We're rock solid for biographies for the Sengoku period,
but we are sorely, sorely lacking much in the way of the Edo period
(47 Ronin, Shinsengumi, and so on) so we really need to get the
'experts' on those periods moving ;-)

Unfortunately, I can find very little proven factual data. Most of the data on each of the 47 ronin is speculative. It's actually missing on most of them. I can glean a little bit on Oishi Kuranosuke, Horibe Yasubei, and of course Fuwa Kazuemon (about whom I've written two stories for Samurai Archives).

The main source, printed in English, for biographical details is in the edition I have of Kuniyoshi's prints. And much of what is printed in here is legend rather than fact.

Nina aka "Wave Tossed"


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From: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com [mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:11 PM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: The New Samurai Archives "Wiki"

--- In samuraihistory@ yahoogroups.com, "Boal, Nina" wrote:
>
> I apologize. I'm supposed to be adding in biographies of the 47
ronin. I've been incredibly busy at work (and other things), and thus
no time yet.
>
> Nina aka "Wave Tossed"
>
>

No problem. We're rock solid for biographies for the Sengoku period,
but we are sorely, sorely lacking much in the way of the Edo period
(47 Ronin, Shinsengumi, and so on) so we really need to get the
'experts' on those periods moving ;-)







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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Boal, Nina" wrote:

>
> Unfortunately, I can find very little proven factual data. Most of

the data on each of the 47 ronin is speculative. It's actually missing
on most of them. I can glean a little bit on Oishi Kuranosuke, Horibe
Yasubei, and of course Fuwa Kazuemon (about whom I've written two
stories for Samurai Archives).

>
> The main source, printed in English, for biographical details is in

the edition I have of Kuniyoshi's prints. And much of what is printed
in here is legend rather than fact.

>
> Nina aka "Wave Tossed"
>

Heh, when it comes to history, that seems to often be the case (Uh,
Musashi anyone?)
I think as long as there is a clear distinction between the known and
the theorized/myth, it is still good history.

Kitsuno, maido.
I have finished today my MA thesis on Yamada Nagamasa and the
Japanese who went to Siam in the 17th century. It is full of material
that was never published in English, and my chair (Dr. Varley) liked
it a lot.
Let me know if you think that Yamada Nagamasa, nihonmachi, shuinsen,
and other topics related to my field of research. can be part of your
project. BTW.
All the best, and -as promised- I will return actively in the mailing
list after I rest a few days (I still have to defend my thesis)
Cepo

On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:29 PM, Kitsuno wrote:

> We've been working for about a month on getting the new Samurai
> Archives wiki ready (Known as the SamuraiWiki) - and I'm putting it
> live right now. Here is the URL:
>
> http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/
>
> We really need editors to get in there and start adding content. We
> already have hundreds of entries, but since the intent is to make this
> the most concise and detailed Wiki on pre-20th century Japan, we'll
> need plenty of help. Check the "current events" page for a list of
> what we most need:
> http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Current_events
>
> Before jumping in and editing, please read through the sections on
> correct editing and formatting:
> http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?
> title=Main_Page#Editing_Wiki_Articles_.28Important.29
>
> This is the same software that Wikipedia uses, so the potential for a
> great history wiki is limitless - and least of all we have to outdo
> wikipedia's sometimes sorry attempt at Japanese history articles. If
> you know anyone with any sort of specialty, be it Samurai movies or
> history books, let them know about the Wiki - there is a place for all
> aspects of Japanese history here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> C.West
>
>
>



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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, cepo wrote:

>
> Kitsuno, maido.
> I have finished today my MA thesis on Yamada Nagamasa and the
> Japanese who went to Siam in the 17th century. It is full of material
> that was never published in English, and my chair (Dr. Varley) liked
> it a lot.
> Let me know if you think that Yamada Nagamasa, nihonmachi, shuinsen,
> and other topics related to my field of research. can be part of your
> project. BTW.
> All the best, and -as promised- I will return actively in the mailing
> list after I rest a few days (I still have to defend my thesis)
> Cepo
>
>

It sounds great - we could use your help - I don't suppose you're back
in Hawaii yet? I've grown awful fond of "Magoo's" :-P

Yep, I am in Hawai'i. I needed to forget what Magoo's was, but as I
turn in my thesis tomorrow I might begin to remember... remember...
remember...
I need to know what you need exactly for the Wiki, since I am too
lazy to read the instructions there. I also suppose a few of my
colleagues might want to cooperate as well. Can you mail me in private?
Mahalo,
cepo

On Oct 10, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Kitsuno wrote:

> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, cepo wrote:
> >
> > Kitsuno, maido.
> > I have finished today my MA thesis on Yamada Nagamasa and the
> > Japanese who went to Siam in the 17th century. It is full of
> material
> > that was never published in English, and my chair (Dr. Varley) liked
> > it a lot.
> > Let me know if you think that Yamada Nagamasa, nihonmachi, shuinsen,
> > and other topics related to my field of research. can be part of
> your
> > project. BTW.
> > All the best, and -as promised- I will return actively in the
> mailing
> > list after I rest a few days (I still have to defend my thesis)
> > Cepo
> >
> >
>
> It sounds great - we could use your help - I don't suppose you're back
> in Hawaii yet? I've grown awful fond of "Magoo's" :-P
>
>
>



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Even there, I have to speculate and deduct from what seems logical to me. Because all of Kuniyoshi's inscriptions on his prints are written as fact.

Nina aka "Wave Tossed"


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From: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com [mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:30 PM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: The New Samurai Archives "Wiki"

--- In samuraihistory@ yahoogroups.com, "Boal, Nina" wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I can find very little proven factual data. Most of
the data on each of the 47 ronin is speculative. It's actually missing
on most of them. I can glean a little bit on Oishi Kuranosuke, Horibe
Yasubei, and of course Fuwa Kazuemon (about whom I've written two
stories for Samurai Archives).
>
> The main source, printed in English, for biographical details is in
the edition I have of Kuniyoshi's prints. And much of what is printed
in here is legend rather than fact.
>
> Nina aka "Wave Tossed"
>

Heh, when it comes to history, that seems to often be the case (Uh,
Musashi anyone?)
I think as long as there is a clear distinction between the known and
the theorized/myth, it is still good history.







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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Boal, Nina" wrote:

>
> Even there, I have to speculate and deduct from what seems logical

to me. Because all of Kuniyoshi's inscriptions on his prints are
written as fact.

>
> Nina aka "Wave Tossed"
>

Take a look at the Miyamoto Musashi entry for an idea about the myth
vs. fact thing. Musashi's life is mostly myth as well, or at least a
lot of speculation.


As an aside - for anyone interested in contributing, all you do is
create an account, and you can then start editing.

> I need to know what you need exactly for the Wiki, since I am too
> lazy to read the instructions there. I also suppose a few of my
> colleagues might want to cooperate as well. Can you mail me in private?
>

Emailed.