samurai sword question.

Dear,
I need some information about samurai sword, hope somebody can give me
information or links.
1. Is there any diamond in the cover of samurai? It's for sharpen.
2. Is it true one of samurai type when in the cover is flexible after
we take off from cover will be harder/tight after a second? (some
people call the belt samurai sword, but just doesn't make sense for
me, physics reason)

Thank you, I am poor about samurai, sorry.

About belt sword, read this: http://www.geocities.com/alchemyst/repro.htm

Thanks.
Regards,

Totok Sudarijanto
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email: totoks@...

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Once you have decided to be an iaijutsu practitioner, you cannot quit!"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of blesets
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:33 PM
> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [samuraihistory] samurai sword question.
>
> Dear,
> I need some information about samurai sword, hope somebody
> can give me information or links.
> 1. Is there any diamond in the cover of samurai? It's for sharpen.
> 2. Is it true one of samurai type when in the cover is
> flexible after we take off from cover will be harder/tight
> after a second? (some people call the belt samurai sword, but
> just doesn't make sense for me, physics reason)
>
> Thank you, I am poor about samurai, sorry.
>
>

Good afternoon.
1 I do not understand what you mean about diamond ???
2 The scabard or properly named "saya" is usually made
of wood and as far as I have seen, it is not flexible.

Best regards.

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Thanks, for the answer,

> 1 I do not understand what you mean about diamond ???

I mean, in the inside of the the cover of samurai there is a
diamond, or something for sharpen, so when this sword is take of it's
automaticly
sharpen (sorry i don't know about this, but some people belieave this.

Thank you.

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "blesets" wrote:

>
> Thanks, for the answer,
> > 1 I do not understand what you mean about diamond ???
> I mean, in the inside of the the cover of samurai there is a
> diamond, or something for sharpen, so when this sword is take of it's
> automaticly
> sharpen (sorry i don't know about this, but some people belieave

this.

>
> Thank you.
>

Just a minor quibble, but there is no sword referred to as "a
samurai". I assume you mean "a katana".

>
> Just a minor quibble, but there is no sword referred to as "a
> samurai". I assume you mean "a katana".
>

:-) I know this is funny but it happens in my country too. I've been meeting
with some (many) people in my country who call a katana as a samurai :-) and
I've been telling them that it's wrong to call a sword as a samurai. :-) but
they keep saying that. I guess this ignorance don't only happen in my
country :-)

Thanks.
Regards,

Totok Sudarijanto
http://www.samurai.or.id
email: totoks@...

"Victory goes to the one who has no thought of himself."

A MAJOR quibble - if this "diamond sharpening" feature as described is meant to
refer to traditional Japanese swords (i.e., katana, tachi, wakizashi, tanto etc
etc) made and worn before 1876, then it is simply nonsense. This feature
belongs in the realm of the modern self-sharpening kitchen knife on the wall...

Barry Thomas.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitsuno" <samurai-listowner@...>
To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:32 AM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: samurai sword question.


--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "blesets" wrote:
>
> Thanks, for the answer,
> > 1 I do not understand what you mean about diamond ???
> I mean, in the inside of the the cover of samurai there is a
> diamond, or something for sharpen, so when this sword is take of it's
> automaticly
> sharpen (sorry i don't know about this, but some people belieave
this.
>
> Thank you.
>

Just a minor quibble, but there is no sword referred to as "a
samurai". I assume you mean "a katana".

good afternoon.
I do not know if I am lost or not. Perhaps you mean
the "Koi Guchi" ( the opening in the scabbard where
you place the point of the blade in order to resheat
it ). Some Koi Guchi has diamond shapes depending on
the shape of the transversal cut of the blade.
but it is not made to sharp the blade. even worst,
if you are not really good trained in how to properly
draw a sharp blade, you will start cutting the inside
of the scabbard until the last thing you will cut is
your hand. remember scabbards are made of wood...
best regards to all.

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Hi,

I'm Japanese and I'm a descendant of a samurai. I'm surprised that a
katana is sometimes called as a samurai!

Some western people think a katana is something special weapon. But a
katana is just a sword. It is true that a katana is well forged and it
can cut many things.

A samurai is originally a person who guards aristocrats. They like
knights. Then they got power and fight each other for concession.Then
they became worriers and they always have katanas.

In a word, a katana is a sword and a samurai is a knight.

Barry et al -
The self-sharpening "Samurai belt-sword" is a common myth,
perpetuated by folks selling crap, usually in South Asia. I believe
the first respondent to the post did the greatest service to the
young man, by directing him to the Japanese Sword Index, where there
is an article on fakes. http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/nihonto.htm
Anyone reading this ought to read that, and more on that site, keep
yourself and your friends safe from hucksters...
-t
www.ncjsc.org

On Jun 8, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Barry Thomas wrote:

> A MAJOR quibble - if this "diamond sharpening" feature as described
> is meant to
> refer to traditional Japanese swords (i.e., katana, tachi,
> wakizashi, tanto etc
> etc) made and worn before 1876, then it is simply nonsense. This
> feature
> belongs in the realm of the modern self-sharpening kitchen knife on
> the wall...
>
> Barry Thomas.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kitsuno" <samurai-listowner@...>
> To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:32 AM
> Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: samurai sword question.
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "blesets" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, for the answer,
> > > 1 I do not understand what you mean about diamond ???
> > I mean, in the inside of the the cover of samurai there is a
> > diamond, or something for sharpen, so when this sword is take of
> it's
> > automaticly
> > sharpen (sorry i don't know about this, but some people belieave
> this.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
> Just a minor quibble, but there is no sword referred to as "a
> samurai". I assume you mean "a katana".
>
>
>



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to mr,trejos:little detail(you probyply know)the name "koi guchi"comes from
a mouth of a fish(koi).its a some kind a carp.i---i didnt know that is okei
to talk about bujutsu etc. in this forum?

>From: federico trejos <federicotrejos@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: samurai sword question.
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 13:30:08 -0500 (CDT)
>
>good afternoon.
>I do not know if I am lost or not. Perhaps you mean
>the "Koi Guchi" ( the opening in the scabbard where
>you place the point of the blade in order to resheat
>it ). Some Koi Guchi has diamond shapes depending on
>the shape of the transversal cut of the blade.
>but it is not made to sharp the blade. even worst,
>if you are not really good trained in how to properly
>draw a sharp blade, you will start cutting the inside
>of the scabbard until the last thing you will cut is
>your hand. remember scabbards are made of wood...
>best regards to all.
>
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--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "jore lehtinen"
wrote:

>
> to mr,trejos:little detail(you probyply know)the name "koi

guchi"comes from

> a mouth of a fish(koi).its a some kind a carp.i---i didnt know that

is okei

> to talk about bujutsu etc. in this forum?
>

It's only mildly discouraged unless it gets out of hand.

Good morning to all.

Just to say : Sir, you can not express it better.

Best regards.

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Good morning.
In fact, Koi Guchi means mouth of carp.
And it is not permited, but as both of us are budokas;
it is our duty to erradicate ignorance of our martial
art.

Best regards to all.

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