Re: Yukio Mishima

People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
thought some of you might find this article interesting

http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733

Has anyone read this book?

I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?

Thanks

Paul

>From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
>
>People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
>thought some of you might find this article interesting
>
>http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733
>
>Has anyone read this book?
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The 27th generation would a sword by Kaneko Kanemoto, probably made during World War 2. I believe the sword used in Mishima's seppuku was a Magoroku Kanemoto, the nidai - second generation - of the Muromachi period ca 1500 [He produced swords from Meio (1492) to the end of Daie (1528)]. While searching for confirmation for this I came across the following link which may be an interesting read about katana for non-sword readers:
http://www.answers.com/topic/japanese-sword

I came across this link which seems to be similar to the above but with a slightly different layout. It mentions Yukio Mishima in a list of famous users of katana, the list also being in the above reference but without Mishima's name:
http://www.search.com/reference/Katana

Here is the list of famous katana users:

Famous historic katana users
---------------------------------------------
Ashikaga Yoshiteru
Tsukahara Bokuden
Iizasa Ienao
Miyamoto Musashi
Sasaki Kojiro
Okita Soji
Saito Hajime
Yukio Mishima

Very interesting that Yukio Mishima should be included in a list of famous sword users when Hakudo Nakayama in the early-mid 20th century was a far more famous swordsman. But then, he didn't to my knowledge cut anyone!!

"Simon" at http://www.vill.yamanakako.yamanashi.jp/cgi-bin/ekbc/kb.cgi/~vdocs/vill/docs/bbs?b=que_e&c=l&num=15 asks (30 August 2005):

>Does anyone know what became of Mishima Yukio's katana which was made
>by the famous swordmaker Kanemoto II (known as "seki no Magoroku")?
>This was, of course, the sword used to decapitate both Mishima and
>Morita during their seppuku rituals and, as such, was probably
>immediately confiscated by the Tokyo police as evidence. I wonder if
>it was subsequently destroyed or returned to Mishima's widow?

So, having reasonably established it was the 2nd generation Kanemoto and not the 27th, I leave the list to follow its course...

Regards,

Barry Thomas
(Melbourne, Australia)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Martin" <pmartin6@...>
To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima



I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?

Thanks

Paul

>From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
>
>People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
>thought some of you might find this article interesting
>
>http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733
>
>Has anyone read this book?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Paul
I thought it was a 2nd generation Kanemoto (1st Magaroku). Not sure if there
is a 27th generation yet!
Regards
Clive Sinclaire

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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima


>
> I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
> Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
> >From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
> >
> >People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
> >thought some of you might find this article interesting
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I read today somewhere that it was an earlier generation than 27th
kanemoto, cant remember where? maybe try google kanemoto mishima also
used by morita
regards
jf

Paul Martin wrote:

> I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
> Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
>
>> From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
>> Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
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>> People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
>> thought some of you might find this article interesting
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Hello Barry and Clive!

I didn't know you two were on here! hanks for clearing that up. I had a bit
of a mis-understanding with a guy trying to sell me a 27th generation
Kanemoto.

Best

Paul

>From: "Barry Thomas" <warlord@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:16:32 +1100
>
>The 27th generation would a sword by Kaneko Kanemoto, probably made during
>World War 2. I believe the sword used in Mishima's seppuku was a Magoroku
>Kanemoto, the nidai - second generation - of the Muromachi period ca 1500
>[He produced swords from Meio (1492) to the end of Daie (1528)]. While
>searching for confirmation for this I came across the following link which
>may be an interesting read about katana for non-sword readers:
>http://www.answers.com/topic/japanese-sword
>
>I came across this link which seems to be similar to the above but with a
>slightly different layout. It mentions Yukio Mishima in a list of famous
>users of katana, the list also being in the above reference but without
>Mishima's name:
>http://www.search.com/reference/Katana
>
>Here is the list of famous katana users:
>
>Famous historic katana users
>---------------------------------------------
> Ashikaga Yoshiteru
>Tsukahara Bokuden
>Iizasa Ienao
>Miyamoto Musashi
>Sasaki Kojiro
>Okita Soji
>Saito Hajime
>Yukio Mishima
>
>Very interesting that Yukio Mishima should be included in a list of famous
>sword users when Hakudo Nakayama in the early-mid 20th century was a far
>more famous swordsman. But then, he didn't to my knowledge cut anyone!!
>
>"Simon" at
>http://www.vill.yamanakako.yamanashi.jp/cgi-bin/ekbc/kb.cgi/~vdocs/vill/docs/bbs?b=que_e&c=l&num=15
>asks (30 August 2005):
> >Does anyone know what became of Mishima Yukio's katana which was made
> >by the famous swordmaker Kanemoto II (known as "seki no Magoroku")?
> >This was, of course, the sword used to decapitate both Mishima and
> >Morita during their seppuku rituals and, as such, was probably
> >immediately confiscated by the Tokyo police as evidence. I wonder if
> >it was subsequently destroyed or returned to Mishima's widow?
>
>So, having reasonably established it was the 2nd generation Kanemoto and
>not the 27th, I leave the list to follow its course...
>
>Regards,
>
>Barry Thomas
>(Melbourne, Australia)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Martin" <pmartin6@...>
>To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>
>
>
>I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
>Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul
>
> >From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
> >
> >People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
> >thought some of you might find this article interesting
> >
> >http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733
> >
> >Has anyone read this book?
>
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"Paul Martin" wrote:

>
>
> I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th

generation

> Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
>

http://www.mokuzai-tonya.jp/05bunen/zuisou/2004/12nihontou12.html
From above link
The sword used for "Kaishaku" was Tashiro Gen-ichiro Kanemoto(17C).
Mishima himself used Navy officer's short sword.


shikisoku

Great, Thanks

P

>From: "shikisokuzekukusokuzeshiki8" <kobaya635@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Yukio Mishima
>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:03:11 -0000
>
> "Paul Martin" wrote:
> >
> >
> > I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th
>generation
> > Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
> >
>
>http://www.mokuzai-tonya.jp/05bunen/zuisou/2004/12nihontou12.html
>From above link
>The sword used for "Kaishaku" was Tashiro Gen-ichiro Kanemoto(17C).
>Mishima himself used Navy officer's short sword.
>
>
>shikisoku
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Sorry for this little Hijacking, but I'm curious if You're the same Paul
Martin former curator of the British Museum and that was kind enough to
send me a free copy of the catalogue about Yoshihara lineage exhibition.
Sorry if it's too personal and out of topic.

Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Paul Martin
Inviato: mercoledì 15 marzo 2006 15.19
A: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima

Hello Barry and Clive!

I didn't know you two were on here! hanks for clearing that up. I had a
bit
of a mis-understanding with a guy trying to sell me a 27th generation
Kanemoto.

Best

Paul

>From: "Barry Thomas" <warlord@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:16:32 +1100
>
>The 27th generation would a sword by Kaneko Kanemoto, probably made

during

>World War 2. I believe the sword used in Mishima's seppuku was a

Magoroku

>Kanemoto, the nidai - second generation - of the Muromachi period ca

1500

>[He produced swords from Meio (1492) to the end of Daie (1528)].

While

>searching for confirmation for this I came across the following link

which

>may be an interesting read about katana for non-sword readers:
>http://www.answers.com/topic/japanese-sword
>
>I came across this link which seems to be similar to the above but with

a

>slightly different layout. It mentions Yukio Mishima in a list of

famous

>users of katana, the list also being in the above reference but without

>Mishima's name:
>http://www.search.com/reference/Katana
>
>Here is the list of famous katana users:
>
>Famous historic katana users
>---------------------------------------------
> Ashikaga Yoshiteru
>Tsukahara Bokuden
>Iizasa Ienao
>Miyamoto Musashi
>Sasaki Kojiro
>Okita Soji
>Saito Hajime
>Yukio Mishima
>
>Very interesting that Yukio Mishima should be included in a list of

famous

>sword users when Hakudo Nakayama in the early-mid 20th century was a

far

>more famous swordsman. But then, he didn't to my knowledge cut

anyone!!

>
>"Simon" at
>http://www.vill.yamanakako.yamanashi.jp/cgi-bin/ekbc/kb.cgi/~vdocs/vill

/docs/bbs?b=que_e&c=l&num=15

>asks (30 August 2005):
> >Does anyone know what became of Mishima Yukio's katana which was made
> >by the famous swordmaker Kanemoto II (known as "seki no Magoroku")?
> >This was, of course, the sword used to decapitate both Mishima and
> >Morita during their seppuku rituals and, as such, was probably
> >immediately confiscated by the Tokyo police as evidence. I wonder if
> >it was subsequently destroyed or returned to Mishima's widow?
>
>So, having reasonably established it was the 2nd generation Kanemoto

and

>not the 27th, I leave the list to follow its course...
>
>Regards,
>
>Barry Thomas
>(Melbourne, Australia)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Martin" <pmartin6@...>
>To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>
>
>
>I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
>Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul
>
> >From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
> >
> >People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
> >thought some of you might find this article interesting
> >
> >http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733
> >
> >Has anyone read this book?
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Carlo,

Its me. Hope you are well : )

Sorry everyone!

P

>From: "Carlo Tacchini" <TSUBAME1@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: R: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:16:24 +0100
>
>Sorry for this little Hijacking, but I'm curious if You're the same Paul
>Martin former curator of the British Museum and that was kind enough to
>send me a free copy of the catalogue about Yoshihara lineage exhibition.
>Sorry if it's too personal and out of topic.
>
>Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Paul Martin
>Inviato: mercoled� 15 marzo 2006 15.19
>A: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Oggetto: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>
>Hello Barry and Clive!
>
>I didn't know you two were on here! hanks for clearing that up. I had a
>bit
>of a mis-understanding with a guy trying to sell me a 27th generation
>Kanemoto.
>
>Best
>
>Paul
>
>
> >From: "Barry Thomas" <warlord@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:16:32 +1100
> >
> >The 27th generation would a sword by Kaneko Kanemoto, probably made
>during
> >World War 2. I believe the sword used in Mishima's seppuku was a
>Magoroku
> >Kanemoto, the nidai - second generation - of the Muromachi period ca
>1500
> >[He produced swords from Meio (1492) to the end of Daie (1528)].
>While
> >searching for confirmation for this I came across the following link
>which
> >may be an interesting read about katana for non-sword readers:
> >http://www.answers.com/topic/japanese-sword
> >
> >I came across this link which seems to be similar to the above but with
>a
> >slightly different layout. It mentions Yukio Mishima in a list of
>famous
> >users of katana, the list also being in the above reference but without
>
> >Mishima's name:
> >http://www.search.com/reference/Katana
> >
> >Here is the list of famous katana users:
> >
> >Famous historic katana users
> >---------------------------------------------
> > Ashikaga Yoshiteru
> >Tsukahara Bokuden
> >Iizasa Ienao
> >Miyamoto Musashi
> >Sasaki Kojiro
> >Okita Soji
> >Saito Hajime
> >Yukio Mishima
> >
> >Very interesting that Yukio Mishima should be included in a list of
>famous
> >sword users when Hakudo Nakayama in the early-mid 20th century was a
>far
> >more famous swordsman. But then, he didn't to my knowledge cut
>anyone!!
> >
> >"Simon" at
> >http://www.vill.yamanakako.yamanashi.jp/cgi-bin/ekbc/kb.cgi/~vdocs/vill
>/docs/bbs?b=que_e&c=l&num=15
> >asks (30 August 2005):
> > >Does anyone know what became of Mishima Yukio's katana which was made
> > >by the famous swordmaker Kanemoto II (known as "seki no Magoroku")?
> > >This was, of course, the sword used to decapitate both Mishima and
> > >Morita during their seppuku rituals and, as such, was probably
> > >immediately confiscated by the Tokyo police as evidence. I wonder if
> > >it was subsequently destroyed or returned to Mishima's widow?
> >
> >So, having reasonably established it was the 2nd generation Kanemoto
>and
> >not the 27th, I leave the list to follow its course...
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Barry Thomas
> >(Melbourne, Australia)
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Martin" <pmartin6@...>
> >To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:25 PM
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >
> >
> >
> >I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th generation
> >Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Paul
> >
> > >From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
> > >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> > >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
> > >
> > >People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
> > >thought some of you might find this article interesting
> > >
> > >http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733
> > >
> > >Has anyone read this book?
> >
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Hi Paul. Great to have you here.
I don't post frequently but you are a great addition to every forum or
list you sign in.

For Tony.
Hi Tony. Your Odoshi no Iroiro was sent to and appreciated by Paul.

All best to both of you.

Close Hijacking and return to lurking...

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A: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: RE: R: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima

Hi Carlo,

Its me. Hope you are well : )

Sorry everyone!

P

>From: "Carlo Tacchini" <TSUBAME1@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: R: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:16:24 +0100
>
>Sorry for this little Hijacking, but I'm curious if You're the same

Paul

>Martin former curator of the British Museum and that was kind enough to
>send me a free copy of the catalogue about Yoshihara lineage

exhibition.

>Sorry if it's too personal and out of topic.
>
>Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Paul Martin
>Inviato: mercoledì 15 marzo 2006 15.19
>A: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Oggetto: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
>
>Hello Barry and Clive!
>
>I didn't know you two were on here! hanks for clearing that up. I had a
>bit
>of a mis-understanding with a guy trying to sell me a 27th generation
>Kanemoto.
>
>Best
>
>Paul
>
>
> >From: "Barry Thomas" <warlord@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:16:32 +1100
> >
> >The 27th generation would a sword by Kaneko Kanemoto, probably made
>during
> >World War 2. I believe the sword used in Mishima's seppuku was a
>Magoroku
> >Kanemoto, the nidai - second generation - of the Muromachi period ca
>1500
> >[He produced swords from Meio (1492) to the end of Daie (1528)].
>While
> >searching for confirmation for this I came across the following link
>which
> >may be an interesting read about katana for non-sword readers:
> >http://www.answers.com/topic/japanese-sword
> >
> >I came across this link which seems to be similar to the above but

with

>a
> >slightly different layout. It mentions Yukio Mishima in a list of
>famous
> >users of katana, the list also being in the above reference but

without

>
> >Mishima's name:
> >http://www.search.com/reference/Katana
> >
> >Here is the list of famous katana users:
> >
> >Famous historic katana users
> >---------------------------------------------
> > Ashikaga Yoshiteru
> >Tsukahara Bokuden
> >Iizasa Ienao
> >Miyamoto Musashi
> >Sasaki Kojiro
> >Okita Soji
> >Saito Hajime
> >Yukio Mishima
> >
> >Very interesting that Yukio Mishima should be included in a list of
>famous
> >sword users when Hakudo Nakayama in the early-mid 20th century was a
>far
> >more famous swordsman. But then, he didn't to my knowledge cut
>anyone!!
> >
> >"Simon" at
>
>http://www.vill.yamanakako.yamanashi.jp/cgi-bin/ekbc/kb.cgi/~vdocs/vill
>/docs/bbs?b=que_e&c=l&num=15
> >asks (30 August 2005):
> > >Does anyone know what became of Mishima Yukio's katana which was

made

> > >by the famous swordmaker Kanemoto II (known as "seki no Magoroku")?
> > >This was, of course, the sword used to decapitate both Mishima and
> > >Morita during their seppuku rituals and, as such, was probably
> > >immediately confiscated by the Tokyo police as evidence. I wonder

if

> > >it was subsequently destroyed or returned to Mishima's widow?
> >
> >So, having reasonably established it was the 2nd generation Kanemoto
>and
> >not the 27th, I leave the list to follow its course...
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Barry Thomas
> >(Melbourne, Australia)
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Martin" <pmartin6@...>
> >To: <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:25 PM
> >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> >
> >
> >
> >I heard that the sword used in Mishima's suicide was a 27th

generation

> >Kanemoto. Can anyone verify this?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Paul
> >
> > >From: Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...>
> > >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yukio Mishima
> > >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:54 -0700
> > >
> > >People have discussed Mishima from time to time on this forum and I
> > >thought some of you might find this article interesting
> > >
> > >http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000110733
> > >
> > >Has anyone read this book?
> >
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> >
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