> I am told that during the tea ceremony turning theSounds like someone trying to read too much into
> chawan clockwise
> when returning it to the host was an indication of
> hostilities to come.
> Since samurai held the ceremony under such high
> regard they would never
> outwardly show anything but respect to thier host
> and instead used this
> simple gesture to display thier true feelings.
>here in Kanaya, a town known for fine green tea. Since this man has
>
>
> --- Robwrote:
>
> > I am told that during the tea ceremony turning the
> > chawan clockwise
> > when returning it to the host was an indication of
> > hostilities to come.
> > Since samurai held the ceremony under such high
> > regard they would never
> > outwardly show anything but respect to thier host
> > and instead used this
> > simple gesture to display thier true feelings.
>
> Sounds like someone trying to read too much into
> things, or something an author made up (Clavell, for
> instance) to further his image of the "inscrutable"
> Japanese. In my Sado experience, when you receive the
> tea bowl, you turn in clockwise to get to the drinking
> side (each bowl has a "face", which the host presents
> to you, and you drink from the side opposite the face,
> so you have to turn it). Once done, you turn it back
> counterclockwise. Some schools make a big deal of
> turning it 3 times (not completely around, but using 3
> motions to turn it halfway around), some don't--it
> just depends. B ut no, I've never ever ehard of the
> direction indicating your hostile intentions--sounds
> like complete bunk to me.
>
> Thanks I agree. This tale was told by one of the local tea farmers
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> Since we are on the subject of Ocha; I washttp://www.iris.or.jp/~hamadaen/chishiki/shurui-e.html
> wondering if anyone could remeber
> the grades fo Tea... There is one that is held in
> very high regard... and
> then there are lower class teas... if anyone cold
> give me this information I
> would be very interessted... and a source for those
> teas would also be good..
> Thanks in advance...
--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, seikei7248@... wrote:
>
> Since we are on the subject of Ocha; I was wondering if anyone
could remeber
> the grades fo Tea... There is one that is held in very high
regard... and
> then there are lower class teas... if anyone cold give me this
information I
> would be very interessted... and a source for those teas would
also be good..
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Robert desu...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>A good source in the US is David Chen of White Crane Tea, in San Francisco.
> Since we are on the subject of Ocha; I was wondering if anyone could
> remeber
> the grades fo Tea... There is one that is held in very high
> regard... and
> then there are lower class teas... if anyone cold give me this
> information I
> would be very interessted... and a source for those teas would also be
> good..
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Robert desu...
> Since we are on the subject of Ocha; I was wondering if anyone couldTea is an extremely messy subject. There are several different plants
> remeber
> the grades fo Tea... There is one that is held in very high
> regard... and
> then there are lower class teas... if anyone cold give me this
> information I
> would be very interessted... and a source for those teas would also
> be good..
> Thanks in advance...