Oh yes never looked at it that way. But when we look back at this and the good if you will made them very imperialistic. Do you think this had something to do with the interventions of the west? In a span of lest than 50 of this new Japanese regiment they where defeating countries like Russia and invading China. However, I do want my next statement to do more than to relate; if there is a samurai nature or samurai spirit could or shouldn't it still be today. Like many newcomers espescially think when they spend a course of time in Japan learning culture and such (and they get the idea that they too are samurai: I myself included) that this spirit still lives on. I lived there for 3 years and did not know that the profession was no longer. But maybe the spirit is still very real. OH Oh I got it why dont we just make a new one? New aged samurai. HMM its a thought.
Love, Grace, and Peace
"Haynes, A (Angus)" <
angus.haynes@...> wrote:
> Quick question was the black ships the beginning of the end of the
shogunate. I mean was this the start of
> the series of events that lead to the strat of Japan as we know it
today. Like how long where those that where
> so totally aginst the shogun around like that. I hope i am making
sense. Look forwanrd to your response.
> Thank You.
By the time the black ships arrived the shogunate was already in
decline. What the black ships did more than anything else was reveal how
weak the shogunate actually was, which came as a real shock to many. The
enemies of the shogunate and the Imperial court were quick to seize on
this discovery and kick-start what was likely inevitable anyway, black
ships or no black ships - the bakumatsu, or 'last days of the
shogunate'.
The tozama clans, such as the Shimazu of Satsuma for example, had held a
grudge of sorts ever since the formation of the shogunate due to their
exclusion from national politics & the many other predjudices shown to
them due to their tozama status despite being one of the oldest and most
powerful of all the clans.
The shogunate became a very corrupt body, and as soon as it began to
lose it's true military nature (after the first three shoguns) it began
to lose it's effectiveness and really struggled to deal with the rapidly
changing conditions in Japan during the 18th and 19th centuries. The
structure of the shogunate - a ruling body loosely overseeing largely
autonomous states who each have their own military power - was long
outdated by the mid-19th century, especially when compared with the
England\Russia\France's of the world. If the shogunate had not fallen
when it did it could have been disastrous for Japan, because the lack of
a national military and true national government would have invited
trouble had the other world powers, Russia perhaps most especially,
attacked.
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AngusH
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