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#7865 [2005-10-18 07:33:38]

Christian Samurai history

by samuraib8

I am at a loss and I hope you can help. I am looking for information
on samurai that were Christians. History, name of clans, crests, etc
of the Christian movement. I am looking for an in-depth study on these
particular samurai, who they were, what they were called and wore.
Basically any good in-depth research.

I am at a loss, I hope you can help me.

Thank you for any direction you can provide.

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#7875 [2005-10-19 15:58:06]

Re: [samuraihistory] Christian Samurai history

by rjuri

Well, to speak about christin samurais could be such a
large thing. Anyway. First of all to say that the
history of christianity in the samurai period begins
with the arrival of Saint Francis Xavier to Kagoshima
at 1548, until the banning of christianity by Tokugawa
at 1612. Only 70 years. The first daimyo to be
converted was Omura Sumitada, but before this one,
other daimyos had granted privileges to the catholic
church, if by nothing else, to get advantages in the
commerce with Portugal. Ouchi is a clear example of
that, the ever very merchantilistic ouchis.
Other daimyos received baptism, I think that all from
jesuits hands. Their major expansion was before the
Sekigahara Battle. The christian daimyos was a strong
force in the council that ruled the country after
Hideyoshi`s death.
Well, other people could say more thing...

I had been working in an article about history of the
catholic church in Japan, if you are interested,
although it is in spanish.

--- samuraib8 <samuraib8@...> wrote:

> I am at a loss and I hope you can help. I am
> looking for information
> on samurai that were Christians. History, name of
> clans, crests, etc
> of the Christian movement. I am looking for an
> in-depth study on these
> particular samurai, who they were, what they were
> called and wore.
> Basically any good in-depth research.
>
> I am at a loss, I hope you can help me.
>
> Thank you for any direction you can provide.
>
>
>
>
>
>


"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."



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#7914 [2005-10-21 07:48:25]

Re: Christian Samurai history

by samuraib8

thanks for the reply. do you know of a good book to read with this
history. looking for names, crests, colors, and history.

thanks again,

samuraib8

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Rodrigo Juri A."
wrote:
>
> Well, to speak about christin samurais could be such a
> large thing. Anyway. First of all to say that the
> history of christianity in the samurai period begins
> with the arrival of Saint Francis Xavier to Kagoshima
> at 1548, until the banning of christianity by Tokugawa
> at 1612. Only 70 years. The first daimyo to be
> converted was Omura Sumitada, but before this one,
> other daimyos had granted privileges to the catholic
> church, if by nothing else, to get advantages in the
> commerce with Portugal. Ouchi is a clear example of
> that, the ever very merchantilistic ouchis.
> Other daimyos received baptism, I think that all from
> jesuits hands. Their major expansion was before the
> Sekigahara Battle. The christian daimyos was a strong
> force in the council that ruled the country after
> Hideyoshi`s death.
> Well, other people could say more thing...
>
> I had been working in an article about history of the
> catholic church in Japan, if you are interested,
> although it is in spanish.
>
> --- samuraib8 wrote:
>
> > I am at a loss and I hope you can help. I am
> > looking for information
> > on samurai that were Christians. History, name of
> > clans, crests, etc
> > of the Christian movement. I am looking for an
> > in-depth study on these
> > particular samurai, who they were, what they were
> > called and wore.
> > Basically any good in-depth research.
> >
> > I am at a loss, I hope you can help me.
> >
> > Thank you for any direction you can provide.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
> For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
> Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
> This day shall gentle his condition:
> And gentlemen in England now a-bed
> Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
> And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
> That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page!
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>

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#7915 [2005-10-21 09:12:39]

Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Christian Samurai history

by sengokudaimyo

samuraib8 wrote:

> thanks for the reply. do you know of a good book to read with this
> history. looking for names, crests, colors, and history.


"Deus Destroyed" by George Elison (Jurgis Elisonas) is the definitive
history of Japan's "Christian Century."

Tony

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