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#6882 [2005-03-30 21:19:25]

Need help with rasearch project

by scubastevenson

Im doing a research project and I need to know where I can find
Primary documents, on the samuri's rules of engagement, or the
conduct in war. the documents need to be from primary sources about
the way they conducted themselves in war, or how they were to treat
the enemy,the prisoners( If they took any or not ), or how the
civilans were treated. thanks for help send ideas to
scubastevenson@...

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#6885 [2005-03-31 14:20:06]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by cepooooo

On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Scuba Stevenson wrote:

> Im doing a research project and I need to know where I can find
> Primary documents, on the samuri's rules of engagement, or the
> conduct in war. the documents need to be from primary sources about
> the way they conducted themselves in war, or how they were to treat
> the enemy,the prisoners( If they took any or not ), or how the
> civilans were treated. thanks for help send ideas to
> scubastevenson@...

Sources in English or in Japanese???

cepo

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#6887 [2005-03-31 16:15:10]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by ltdomer98

--- Cepo <cepo@...> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Scuba Stevenson wrote:
>
> > Im doing a research project and I need to know
> where I can find
> > Primary documents, on the samuri's rules of
> engagement, or the
> > conduct in war. the documents need to be from
> primary sources about
> > the way they conducted themselves in war, or how
> they were to treat
> > the enemy,the prisoners( If they took any or not
> ), or how the
> > civilans were treated. thanks for help send ideas
> to
> > scubastevenson@...
>
> Sources in English or in Japanese???
>
> cepo

I'd assume he meant sources in Japanese, since he
asked for primary sources. Not too many sources in
English from the Sengoku Jidai. Though I must admit
I'm confused by his use of the term "Rules of
Engagement". That means something to me as an army
officer that wouldn't have affected the samurai.

Sengoku ROE: You see the enemy, go take his head! What
the hell are you standing here for???

Modern ROE: You can fire back if fired upon, but only
if you can clearly identify the enemy, and if he's not
hiding behind a church/mosque/important cultural site,
or using civilians as a shield, and you've got to use
the minimum force necessary to protect yourself, US
personnel, equipment, civilians, rare waterfowl, and
coral reefs. Spitballs are the recommended form of
non-deadly projectile.















I'd assume



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#6888 [2005-03-31 16:20:32]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by gilliru

> Surely "primary sources" presupposes Japanese?!

Have you looked at "Samurai, Warfare and the State in Early Medieval
Japan" by Karl Friday. (Routledge 2004). He considers several of these
issues. The book has an extensive bibliography of primary and
secondary sources. As to where you find these...I guess you just have
to use university libraries, andsearch on Google.

Good luck!

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#6892 [2005-04-01 06:30:15]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by scubastevenson

Both will do fine as long as its a first had account of a battle or a document of some sort.

Cepo <cepo@...> wrote:On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Scuba Stevenson wrote:

> Im doing a research project and I need to know where I can find
> Primary documents, on the samuri's rules of engagement, or the
> conduct in war. the documents need to be from primary sources about
> the way they conducted themselves in war, or how they were to treat
> the enemy,the prisoners( If they took any or not ), or how the
> civilans were treated. thanks for help send ideas to
> scubastevenson@...

Sources in English or in Japanese???

cepo



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#6893 [2005-04-01 06:34:56]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by scubastevenson

Thanks.

Gillian Rubinstein <gillian@...> wrote:> Surely "primary sources" presupposes Japanese?!

Have you looked at "Samurai, Warfare and the State in Early Medieval
Japan" by Karl Friday. (Routledge 2004). He considers several of these
issues. The book has an extensive bibliography of primary and
secondary sources. As to where you find these...I guess you just have
to use university libraries, andsearch on Google.

Good luck!

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#6905 [2005-04-03 13:20:23]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by scubastevenson

Translated to english would be nice.

p p <scubastevenson@...> wrote:
Both will do fine as long as its a first had account of a battle or a document of some sort.

Cepo <cepo@...> wrote:On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Scuba Stevenson wrote:

> Im doing a research project and I need to know where I can find
> Primary documents, on the samuri's rules of engagement, or the
> conduct in war. the documents need to be from primary sources about
> the way they conducted themselves in war, or how they were to treat
> the enemy,the prisoners( If they took any or not ), or how the
> civilans were treated. thanks for help send ideas to
> scubastevenson@...

Sources in English or in Japanese???

cepo



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#6907 [2005-04-03 18:22:24]

Re: [samuraihistory] Need help with rasearch project

by cepooooo

On Apr 1, 2005, at 3:30 AM, p p wrote:

> Both will do fine as long as its a first had account of a battle or a
> document of some sort.

I would start with having a good look at the "battle screens."
Maybe somebody can point out to some website where some are reproduced?
There are also many books in Japanese that describe the painting and
the battles in detail.

cepo

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