>From: "Marshall Revell" <fakeman123abc_gty@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [samuraihistory] QUICK HELLLLLLPPPPP!
>Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:16:27 -0700
>
>hi yall i'm new and am doing a s.s. project on muromachi samurai if u have
>help on this topic send it 2 me A.S.A.P. thx
>
>
> >From: "kitsuno" <kitsuno@...>
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: A.J. Bryant's books
> >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:54:55 -0000
> >
> >Not to attack the sacred cow, but Turnbull can definately not be accused
>of
> >being an acedemic, or a 'true' historian. Many of his books are filled
> >with small errors and innaccuracies that he very obviously took verbatim
> >from Papinot - although he NEVER mentions Papinot in his sources...
> >Looking at his books, his information, and his sources together, one has
>to
> >wonder if he can even read Japanese at all...
> >
> >*ahem* for example, Turnbull repeatedly states that the seige of
>Inabayama
> >took place in 1564/65. whereas all the sources I have in Japanese,
> >including a few he lists in his bibliography state it happened in 1567.
>So
> >you may be thinking, 'what's two or three years?' Well, what if I told
>you
> >the battle of Gettysburg took place in 1866? Oops!
> >
> >You could write a treatise on just the errors and uncited Papinot sources
> >alone. Not to mention a picture listed as an 'authors representation' of
> >something that actually looks suspiciously like a tracing of a picture in
>a
> >Rekishi gunzo book. (Dont have his book or the Gunzo book on hand right
>now
> >to cite which one)
> >Guess because he's the only game in town he thinks he doesn't have to
>work
> >at it anymore...? I've seen him mentioned as Stephen "buy my books"
> >Turnbull in some post before, and I can see why. Just take a look at his
> >website. You can't help but get the impression scholarship takes a
> >definate backseat to profit. guess I can't really blame the guy, though.
> >Gotta put food on the table somehow.
> >
> >Anyway, I'd rather read 'dry' histories if they are more accurate than
> >'popular' histories, although I'd prefer to read an accurate popular
> >history! (like A.J. Bryant's stuff! At least you get the impression that
> >he has a real interest in the subject, and can actually read japanese,
>and
> >actually puts in the research!)
> >
> >Oh well, just a rant on my part, and I could very well be totally wrong.
> >
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