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From: Nate Ledbetter
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] new subject
--- Elizabeth Chasewrote:
> Mmmmmmm Nathan, please forgive my own impertinence,.............
Impertinence forgiven. The point is that it was
developed by peasants, not samurai, because the
peasants had no weapons. What works against an armed
samurai would be effective against an unarmed
assailant also, no? The original poster was asking
about samurai influence on unarmed martial arts forms.
*********Kewl. I wanted to check my understanding because I have heard the 'karate was developed as a defense against the samurai'
many many times. *******
Rather than being primary developers, they were
primary antagonists. (And now some "expert" will come
in and assail me because unarmed techniques that were
the forerunners of Juujitsu, etc., were developed way
back when for use if you lost your sword, or
something. True. But the point is not the
details--it's that for the most part, the samurai
weren't injecting some mystical bushido into karate.)
********* Might it be that the karateka were trying to assimilate what they understood as bushido into their own practice? *****
And if they can't
handle their misconceptions being challenged, that's
when the compassion tends to slip.
******* Beginner's mind, I think, is best. It took a long time for me to learn just to do nothing. So simple, and soooooo much
practice needed, lol.****** Yes, I slip up, especially when I get blind-sided by those 'hormonal surges'. Don't like the taste of
crow pie, either, when it turns out I am in error. ****
Myself also. The Lord High Listmaster and myself (I am
only his trusty minion, with a very minor fief in an
outlying area of the list) are working on a new rules
list, and one of those is a request that everyone, oh,
I don't know, USE PUNCTUATION? It's one thing if
English is not your primary language--I can make
allowances for that. However there are many posters on
this list who are not native English speakers and
still can make themselves intelligible. They use
punctuation in most other languages, and it varies
little.
******** Improper grammar and poor spelling out of ignorance is trainable. Effective but improper grammar and poor spelling in the
pursuit of fiction writing is an art. Deliberate improper grammar and spelling to be hip, kewl, or defiant is lazy and is
demonstrative (to me) of someone who is indeserving of my attention and intelligence. I try to steer my path clear of that type and
not waste my energy. I do have my own ways of being obstreperous.*****
> Just for the h-e-double-hockey-sticks of it..... how
> many of you 'play' in the Society for Creative
> Anachronism...... if you do, do
> you pursue 'European' or 'Asian/Japanese personas?
> (No, lol, I don't mean as in 'chase' them...)
I think many do, and many do both Asian and European
personae. Talk to Tony--he's the grand Poobah when it
comes to Japanese SCA.
Nate
*****Aye, that GPB is quite knowledgeable, and a hoot when he is having a good day. I finally got my firweall settings to where
more of the information on his site will display on my screen.
I like finding how others approach the subject of this list, their backgrounds and perspectives, and educations in academia & real
world experiences. I am a snob enough to admit that I don't like the trend of game-related posts, but you and the LHM are the boss
a' that. I just try to ignore them.
I understand you are in Tokyo..... would I show my impertinent curiosity again to inquire as to how you got there (not
transportation) , what you do, and how you find the daily life? What do you like best?
Sleepily,
Lizzie
stuck in Minneapolis
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> ********* Might it be that the karateka were tryingEntirely possible. In fact, I'd say likely, once they
> to assimilate what they understood as bushido into
> their own practice? *****
> ******* Beginner's mind, I think, is best. It tookIf someone asks a question here, most of the time they
> a long time for me to learn just to do nothing. So
> simple, and soooooo much
> practice needed, lol.****** Yes, I slip up,
> especially when I get blind-sided by those 'hormonal
> surges'. Don't like the taste of
> crow pie, either, when it turns out I am in error.
> ****
> ******** Improper grammar and poor spelling out of"Kewl"? lol. Something like that to be cute or funny
> ignorance is trainable. Effective but improper
> grammar and poor spelling in the
> pursuit of fiction writing is an art. Deliberate
> improper grammar and spelling to be hip, kewl, or
> defiant is lazy and is
> demonstrative (to me) of someone who is indeserving
> of my attention and intelligence. I try to steer my
> path clear of that type and
> not waste my energy. I do have my own ways of being
> obstreperous.*****
> *****Aye, that GPB is quite knowledgeable, and aSSHHHH! Don't tell him that. He's got a big enough
> hoot when he is having a good day. I finally got my
> firweall settings to where
> more of the information on his site will display on
> my screen.
> I understand you are in Tokyo..... would I show myEmail me off list if you wish--I won't take up more
> impertinent curiosity again to inquire as to how you
> got there (not
> transportation) , what you do, and how you find the
> daily life? What do you like best?
>Okay, now I'm confused. Am I a hoot or a poobah? :)
>
>
>*****Aye, that GPB is quite knowledgeable, and a hoot when he is having a good day.
>
>I must now introduce you to my katana, Mr. Fluffly. Die, Gaijinscum!!
>>*****Aye, that GPB is quite knowledgeable, and a
>>hoot when he is having a good day. I finally got my
>>firweall settings to where
>>more of the information on his site will display on
>>my screen.
>>
>>
>
>SSHHHH! Don't tell him that. He's got a big enough
>head as it is...lol.
>
>
> Die, Gaijinscum!!I counter with my magical blade, the Limp Sardine!
>
> HiiiiiiYAH!
----- Original Message -----
From: Nate Ledbetter
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Samurai wannabees and influences Re: [samuraihistory] new subject
Deliberate
> improper grammar and spelling to be hip, kewl......................, ****
"Kewl"? lol. Something like that to be cute or funny
is fine. talkin lik u r passin notes in ur study hall
is annoying. I ask, yet again, that people stop it.
************ I began using that term as a phonetic pronunciation of 'cool'. I like the way it sounds, and it has stuck with me.
> *****Aye, that GPB is quite knowledgeable, and a
> hoot when he is having a good day. I finally got my
> firweall settings to where
> more of the information on his site will display on
> my screen.
SSHHHH! Don't tell him that. He's got a big enough
head as it is...lol.
******** Yah, I know how he can get. He's much more fun when he's not cranky, which is when I either just ignore him, or I fan the
flames by saying someting silly.*****
> I understand you are in Tokyo..... would I show my
> impertinent curiosity again to inquire as to how you
> got there (not
> transportation) , what you do, and how you find the
> daily life? What do you like best?
Email me off list if you wish--I won't take up more
bandwidth here. Suffice to say I live and work in
Tokyo for the time being, though I'm moving to
Kanagawa soon. Daily life is great, and what is there
NOT to like in Tokyo? (Except Roppongi. It's icky)
*****I'll do just that, but in a few days, when I have some more time off to play.*****
Obediently,
Lizzie
Nate
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> ************ I began using that term as a phoneticAnd since you only do that with one word, it's fine.
> pronunciation of 'cool'. I like the way it sounds,
> and it has stuck with me.
> Obediently,It's good to be the assistant deputy manager twice
>Tartars? What do they have to do with Japan, sauced or not?
>I counter with my magical blade, the Limp Sardine!
>Have at thee!
>
>*have what at thee, I'm not so sure. Tartar sauce?*
>
>
> Tartars? What do they have to do with Japan, saucedI was referring to the very profitable mackerel trade
> or not?
>
> Tony
>Anyways, there you have it. Ug Li got sauced in theYou *so* need to cut down the caffeine... ;)
>end by his own underlings. A vinagrette, if I'm not
>mistaken.
>
>
----- Original Message -----
From: Nate Ledbetter
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Samurai wannabees and influences Re: [samuraihistory] new subject
Deliberate
> improper grammar and spelling to be hip, kewl......................, ****
"Kewl"? lol. Something like that to be cute or funny
is fine. talkin lik u r passin notes in ur study hall
is annoying. I ask, yet again, that people stop it.
************ I began using that term as a phonetic pronunciation of 'cool'. I like the way it sounds, and it has stuck with me.
> *****Aye, that GPB is quite knowledgeable, and a
> hoot when he is having a good day. I finally got my
> firweall settings to where
> more of the information on his site will display on
> my screen.
SSHHHH! Don't tell him that. He's got a big enough
head as it is...lol.
******** Yah, I know how he can get. He's much more fun when he's not cranky, which is when I either just ignore him, or I fan the
flames by saying someting silly.*****
> I understand you are in Tokyo..... would I show my
> impertinent curiosity again to inquire as to how you
> got there (not
> transportation) , what you do, and how you find the
> daily life? What do you like best?
Email me off list if you wish--I won't take up more
bandwidth here. Suffice to say I live and work in
Tokyo for the time being, though I'm moving to
Kanagawa soon. Daily life is great, and what is there
NOT to like in Tokyo? (Except Roppongi. It's icky)
*****I'll do just that, but in a few days, when I have some more time off to play.*****
Obediently,
Lizzie
Nate
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>joke. n e way i am 22 yrs old and i am well on my way to becoming an
> hello how r u. do u dislike Roppongi because of the sailors? small
>My God, if I had kids in elementary school and thier teacher spelled
> peace
>hello how r u. do u dislike Roppongi because of the sailors? small joke. n e way i am 22 yrs old and i am well on my way to becoming an elementary teacher. by the way r u in Japan because u r a teacher or is it some other kind of business. if u dont mind my asking well GOD BLESS UThis is the last chance. Either learn to spell and punctuate (I find it
>
>peace
>
>
>
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:28 PM
Subject: Samurai wannabees and influences Re: [samuraihistory] new subject
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, james wilson
> wrote:
> >
> > hello how r u. do u dislike Roppongi because of the sailors? small
> joke. n e way i am 22 yrs old and i am well on my way to becoming an
> elementary teacher. by the way r u in Japan because u r a teacher or
> is it some other kind of business. if u dont mind my asking well GOD
> BLESS U
> >
> > peace
>
> My God, if I had kids in elementary school and thier teacher spelled
> like that I would immediately start homeschooling them. (and what is
> this group coming to??)
>
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> hello how r u. do u dislike Roppongi because of thePlease. I'm begging. Learn to use all your keys, so
> sailors? small joke. n e way i am 22 yrs old and i
> am well on my way to becoming an elementary teacher.
> by the way r u in Japan because u r a teacher or is
> it some other kind of business. if u dont mind my
> asking well GOD BLESS U
> You *so* need to cut down the caffeine... ;)I think you are right. It has a funny cross reaction
>
> Tony
>hello how r u. do u dislike Roppongi because of the sailors? small joke. n e way i am 22 yrs old and i am well on my way to becoming an elementary teacher. by the way r u in Japan because u r a teacher or is it some other kind of business. if u dont mind my asking well GOD BLESS UThis is the last chance. Either learn to spell and punctuate (I find it
>
>peace
>
>
>
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To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Samurai wannabees and influences Re: [samuraihistory] new subject
--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, james wilson
wrote:
>
> hello how r u. do u dislike Roppongi because of the sailors? small
joke. n e way i am 22 yrs old and i am well on my way to becoming an
elementary teacher. by the way r u in Japan because u r a teacher or
is it some other kind of business. if u dont mind my asking well GOD
BLESS U
>
> peace
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> God, the
> look on their faces is priceless when you tell them
> "Bu hao, wo bu xiang ni" :)
> Why would sailors bother me? I'm in the Army.Isn't that enough reason?
> I'm notHear, bloody freakin' hear.
> a teacher. And might I suggest, if you're on your way
> to being a teacher, you start practicing punctuation,
> capitalization, and spelling. The students are
> supposed to learn from you, not the other way around.
> > "Bu hao, wo bu xiang ni" :)Picked that trick up from a friend of mine who's
>
>
>
> I like your style. ;)
> > Why would sailors bother me? I'm in the Army.Well, they aren't Marines, lol.
>
> Isn't that enough reason?