Japanese Samurai History

#5817 [2004-10-26 19:44:47]

Jingasa ?????

by retalt

All, adding to my Maeda collection of things, is this classifed as a

Jingasa ?, it was listed aa Edo period and I believe it may be early/mid
1800's or so. Any additional Information appreciated

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa 3.jpg

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa 2.jpg

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa 1.jpg

best wishes

Rich Turner

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#5818 [2004-10-26 21:56:17]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by ltdomer98

Richard:

The links, as you posted them, didn't work. I tried
this:

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg

Is this the same jingasa you mean? If so, yes, it's
jingasa. What other information might you be looking
for?

Nate

--- Richard Turner <ikkanshi@...> wrote:

> All, adding to my Maeda collection of things, is
> this classifed as a
>
> Jingasa ?, it was listed aa Edo period and I believe
> it may be early/mid
> 1800's or so. Any additional Information appreciated
>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

> 3.jpg
>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

> 2.jpg
>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

> 1.jpg
>
> best wishes
>
> Rich Turner
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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#5819 [2004-10-26 22:09:54]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by retalt

> Richard:
>
> The links, as you posted them, didn't work. I tried
> this:
>
> http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg
>
> Is this the same jingasa you mean? If so, yes, it's
> jingasa. What other information might you be looking
> for?
>
> Nate
>

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#5820 [2004-10-26 23:10:56]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by ltdomer98

Rich--

Not one of thos links worked. Did you try the link I
posted, and is that the one you are looking for?
There's something messed up with the code.

As far as differences in Jingasa, I'm not too sure--I
believe that there were varying style of jingasa, but
don't know if there was any differences between
regions or eras. I'll see what I can dig up.

Nate

--- Richard Turner <ikkanshi@...> wrote:

> sorry all, a typo, try this.
>
> Thanks Nate, I was wondering if there were different
> types of Jinsaga or
> they are all just basically Jinsaga. If this style
> was typical of an era
> ?, if there could be any judgment of age ? etc.,
> just general information.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rich
>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

>
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-3.jpg>-3.jpg

>
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-3.jpg>

>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-2.jpg

>
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa>

>
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

>
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>-1.jpg

>
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>

>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>

> Nate Ledbetter wrote:
>
> > Richard:
> >
> > The links, as you posted them, didn't work. I
> tried
> > this:
> >
> >
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg

> >
> > Is this the same jingasa you mean? If so, yes,
> it's
> > jingasa. What other information might you be
> looking
> > for?
> >
> > Nate
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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#5821 [2004-10-26 23:05:49]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by retalt

good grief, sorry all, I think I will go back to the carrier pigeon, my
hyper links have lost the plot.

Richard

Richard Turner wrote:

> sorry all, a typo, try this.
>
> Thanks Nate, I was wondering if there were different types of Jinsaga or
> they are all just basically Jinsaga. If this style was typical of an era
> ?, if there could be any judgment of age ? etc., just general information.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rich
>
> http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-3.jpg>-3.jpg
>
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-3.jpg>
>
> http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-2.jpg
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa>
>
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa
>
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>-1.jpg
>
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>
> <http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>
> Nate Ledbetter wrote:
>
> > Richard:
> >
> > The links, as you posted them, didn't work. I tried
> > this:
> >
> > http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg
> >
> > Is this the same jingasa you mean? If so, yes, it's
> > jingasa. What other information might you be looking
> > for?
> >
> > Nate
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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#5822 [2004-10-26 23:16:20]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by ltdomer98

Rich--

Here's a link for some Jingasa explanation. WHen I get
some more time, I'll comb some Japanese sites.

http://www.artsofthesamurai.com/jingasa/html/jingasa.html#Bajo%20-%20Gasa%20(Riding%20Caps)

--- Nate Ledbetter <ltdomer98@...> wrote:

> Rich--
>
> Not one of thos links worked. Did you try the link I
> posted, and is that the one you are looking for?
> There's something messed up with the code.
>
> As far as differences in Jingasa, I'm not too
> sure--I
> believe that there were varying style of jingasa,
> but
> don't know if there was any differences between
> regions or eras. I'll see what I can dig up.
>
> Nate
>
> --- Richard Turner <ikkanshi@...> wrote:
>
> > sorry all, a typo, try this.
> >
> > Thanks Nate, I was wondering if there were
> different
> > types of Jinsaga or
> > they are all just basically Jinsaga. If this style
> > was typical of an era
> > ?, if there could be any judgment of age ? etc.,
> > just general information.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

> >
> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-3.jpg>-3.jpg

> >
> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-3.jpg>

> >
> >
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-2.jpg

> >
> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa>

> >
> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa

> >
> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>-1.jpg

> >
> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>

> >
>

<http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa-1.jpg>

> > Nate Ledbetter wrote:
> >
> > > Richard:
> > >
> > > The links, as you posted them, didn't work. I
> > tried
> > > this:
> > >
> > >
> >
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg

> > >
> > > Is this the same jingasa you mean? If so, yes,
> > it's
> > > jingasa. What other information might you be
> > looking
> > > for?
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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#5823 [2004-10-26 23:33:06]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by retalt

Nate, I promise this is the last time I will try this

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%202.jpg

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%203.jpg

Thanks fo rthat link, very interesting, I will have a good look through
after work.

best wishes

Rich

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#5825 [2004-10-27 00:09:32]

Re: [samuraihistory] Jingasa ?????

by ltdomer98

Rich-

YAY! SUCCESS!

Yes, that's a jingasa. As far as stylistic dating
goes, I'm not entirely sure. Most of the sengoku era
jingasa I've seen in illustrations are a little
flatter, and are made of iron, as you would expect of
military headgear. I believe during this time you had
two types: iron jingasa the Ashigaru used as headgear,
and the straw/thatch versions used by the peasantry,
monks, women, etc. During the Edo period is when I
believe you saw a switch to your average samurai
wearing them as headgear, and you see the switch to
lacquered versions.

Of course, I really have no idea. Still looking
though.

Nate

--- Richard Turner <ikkanshi@...> wrote:

> Nate, I promise this is the last time I will try
> this
>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%201.jpg

>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%202.jpg

>
>

http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/retalt/jingasa%203.jpg

>
> Thanks fo rthat link, very interesting, I will have
> a good look through
> after work.
>
> best wishes
>
> Rich
>
>
>

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