>
> It's regarded as a wakizashi????That means the kodachi is a sword.
>
> Edy
>
>
> Richardson Paulwrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai Yoshin
> Ryu Kodachi.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smithwrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of the
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*
>
> Richardson Paulwrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi, two I
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTai
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmithwrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I know this is a very studid, but I was
> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me out.
> What is the
> kodachi used for? Slap me if you like, please!
>
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>
> Edy
>
>
> Richardson Paulwrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai Yoshin
> Ryu Kodachi.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smithwrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of the
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*
>
> Richardson Paulwrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi, two I
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTai
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmithwrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I know this is a very studid, but I was
> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me out.
> What is the
> kodachi used for? Slap me if you like, please!
>
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> I just recieved a pick of a kodachi that once belonged
> to a very famoius member of the Yagyu family dated
> about 1600. it has just been repolished and is about
> to be submitted for new papers elevating it to a
> national treasure I will ask if I can post the pic I
> was sent
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, i'm not a member, I'm just very interested. This
> very interesting.
>
> Thanks, it helps a lot!
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:
> HI
>
> here is a brief description. I wont go into details to
> much as I assume you are not a member of either ryu.
>
> kukishinden Ryu (KSDR) Kodachi has only 3 kata for the
> use of the kodachi. Once source I know may try to say
> there are a further 7 ura gata for these 3 omote gata,
> but i have seen a Kukishin ryu densho and no ura gata
> were listed in it.
>
> In each one the attacker will come at you with a
> katana and he is trying to cut across at your torso.
> The reason for this is you are moving around him and
> you decide when to expose a weak point therefore
> making him attack the area you choose. Once he does in
> all three you rush in fast and thrust the kodachi into
> him.
>
> In Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu (HYR), I have not studied. I
> have been shown the kata once and I have them on
> video. therefore cant describe them properly.
>
> There are five omote kata and I am told maybe some ura
> gata (which I have not seen or know of). They like the
> Kuki kodachi involve thrusting and a few slashing such
> as to the neck or torso.
>
> The HYR tend to sink lower in kamae than the KSDR.
>
> However there is a historical link between the two
> ryu.
>
> Kukishinden Ryu is really called Kukishinden Happo
> Biken, and originates from Kukishin ryu (main branch
> of that is now Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho) This all
> originates from the Kuki family who are today still
> soke of the tenshin hyoho branch, and also head
> priests of the Kuki shrine. IN the 1600s Ohkuni Onihei
> was a shihan in the Kukishin ryu and met with Takagi
> Gennoshin from Takagi Yoshin ryu. together they
> exchanged ideas etc and Takagi Yoshin ryu was changed.
> Kukishin ryu Bojutsu was added to Takagi. In the early
> 1900's Ishitani (Ishiya) sensei on his death bed
> handed menkyo kaiden makimono for the Takagi Yoshin
> ryu to Takamatsu Toshitsugu, they were to be passed to
> Kakuno one of his students. Both Kakuno and Takamatsu
> held menkyo Kaiden in Takagi Yoshin Ryu and kukishin
> Ryu. sort time later Minaki sensei is handed menkyo
> kaiden in the kakuno takagi ryu and from him him the
> HYR is developed.
>
> for more indepth info and lines history check out
> these sites.
>
> http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.com/
> http://www.hyrusa.com/index2.html
> http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html
> http://kobe.cool.ne.jp/ikkansai/takagiryu.htm
> http://www.hanako.co.uk/History.htm%c2%a0 (my web site)
>
> paul
>
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> what's the difference between the Kukishinden Ryu
> Kodachi and the Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu Kodachi? This is
> pretty interesting!
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai Yoshin
> Ryu Kodachi.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of the
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi, two I
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTai
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I know this is a very studid, but I was
> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me out.
> What is the
> kodachi used for? Slap me if you like, please!
>
>
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> I just recieved a pick of a kodachi that once belonged
> to a very famoius member of the Yagyu family dated
> about 1600. it has just been repolished and is about
> to be submitted for new papers elevating it to a
> national treasure I will ask if I can post the pic I
> was sent
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, i'm not a member, I'm just very interested. This
> very interesting.
>
> Thanks, it helps a lot!
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:
> HI
>
> here is a brief description. I wont go into details to
> much as I assume you are not a member of either ryu.
>
> kukishinden Ryu (KSDR) Kodachi has only 3 kata for the
> use of the kodachi. Once source I know may try to say
> there are a further 7 ura gata for these 3 omote gata,
> but i have seen a Kukishin ryu densho and no ura gata
> were listed in it.
>
> In each one the attacker will come at you with a
> katana and he is trying to cut across at your torso.
> The reason for this is you are moving around him and
> you decide when to expose a weak point therefore
> making him attack the area you choose. Once he does in
> all three you rush in fast and thrust the kodachi into
> him.
>
> In Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu (HYR), I have not studied. I
> have been shown the kata once and I have them on
> video. therefore cant describe them properly.
>
> There are five omote kata and I am told maybe some ura
> gata (which I have not seen or know of). They like the
> Kuki kodachi involve thrusting and a few slashing such
> as to the neck or torso.
>
> The HYR tend to sink lower in kamae than the KSDR.
>
> However there is a historical link between the two
> ryu.
>
> Kukishinden Ryu is really called Kukishinden Happo
> Biken, and originates from Kukishin ryu (main branch
> of that is now Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho) This all
> originates from the Kuki family who are today still
> soke of the tenshin hyoho branch, and also head
> priests of the Kuki shrine. IN the 1600s Ohkuni Onihei
> was a shihan in the Kukishin ryu and met with Takagi
> Gennoshin from Takagi Yoshin ryu. together they
> exchanged ideas etc and Takagi Yoshin ryu was changed.
> Kukishin ryu Bojutsu was added to Takagi. In the early
> 1900's Ishitani (Ishiya) sensei on his death bed
> handed menkyo kaiden makimono for the Takagi Yoshin
> ryu to Takamatsu Toshitsugu, they were to be passed to
> Kakuno one of his students. Both Kakuno and Takamatsu
> held menkyo Kaiden in Takagi Yoshin Ryu and kukishin
> Ryu. sort time later Minaki sensei is handed menkyo
> kaiden in the kakuno takagi ryu and from him him the
> HYR is developed.
>
> for more indepth info and lines history check out
> these sites.
>
> http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.com/
> http://www.hyrusa.com/index2.html
> http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html
> http://kobe.cool.ne.jp/ikkansai/takagiryu.htm
> http://www.hanako.co.uk/History.htm (my web site)
>
> paul
>
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> what's the difference between the Kukishinden Ryu
> Kodachi and the Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu Kodachi? This is
> pretty interesting!
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai Yoshin
> Ryu Kodachi.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of the
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi, two I
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTai
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I know this is a very studid, but I was
> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me out.
> What is the
> kodachi used for? Slap me if you like, please!
>
>
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> I just recieved a pick of a kodachi that once
> to a very famoius member of the Yagyu familydated
> about 1600. it has just been repolished and isabout
> to be submitted for new papers elevating it to apic I
> national treasure I will ask if I can post the
> was sentThis
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, i'm not a member, I'm just very interested.
> very interesting.details to
>
> Thanks, it helps a lot!
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:
> HI
>
> here is a brief description. I wont go into
> much as I assume you are not a member of eitherryu.
>for the
> kukishinden Ryu (KSDR) Kodachi has only 3 kata
> use of the kodachi. Once source I know may try tosay
> there are a further 7 ura gata for these 3 omotegata,
> but i have seen a Kukishin ryu densho and no uragata
> were listed in it.torso.
>
> In each one the attacker will come at you with a
> katana and he is trying to cut across at your
> The reason for this is you are moving around himand
> you decide when to expose a weak point thereforedoes in
> making him attack the area you choose. Once he
> all three you rush in fast and thrust the kodachiinto
> him.I
>
> In Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu (HYR), I have not studied.
> have been shown the kata once and I have them onsome ura
> video. therefore cant describe them properly.
>
> There are five omote kata and I am told maybe
> gata (which I have not seen or know of). Theylike the
> Kuki kodachi involve thrusting and a few slashingsuch
> as to the neck or torso.KSDR.
>
> The HYR tend to sink lower in kamae than the
>two
> However there is a historical link between the
> ryu.Happo
>
> Kukishinden Ryu is really called Kukishinden
> Biken, and originates from Kukishin ryu (mainbranch
> of that is now Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho) Thisall
> originates from the Kuki family who are todaystill
> soke of the tenshin hyoho branch, and also headOnihei
> priests of the Kuki shrine. IN the 1600s Ohkuni
> was a shihan in the Kukishin ryu and met withTakagi
> Gennoshin from Takagi Yoshin ryu. together theychanged.
> exchanged ideas etc and Takagi Yoshin ryu was
> Kukishin ryu Bojutsu was added to Takagi. In theearly
> 1900's Ishitani (Ishiya) sensei on his death bedYoshin
> handed menkyo kaiden makimono for the Takagi
> ryu to Takamatsu Toshitsugu, they were to bepassed to
> Kakuno one of his students. Both Kakuno andTakamatsu
> held menkyo Kaiden in Takagi Yoshin Ryu andkukishin
> Ryu. sort time later Minaki sensei is handedmenkyo
> kaiden in the kakuno takagi ryu and from him himthe
> HYR is developed.site)
>
> for more indepth info and lines history check out
> these sites.
>
> http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.com/
> http://www.hyrusa.com/index2.html
> http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html
> http://kobe.cool.ne.jp/ikkansai/takagiryu.htm
> http://www.hanako.co.uk/History.htm%ef%bf%bd (my web
>is
> paul
>
>
>
> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> what's the difference between the Kukishinden Ryu
> Kodachi and the Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu Kodachi? This
> pretty interesting!Yoshin
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai
> Ryu Kodachi.the
>
>
> Paul
>
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> --- andrea Smith <andjoysmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*two I
>
> Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi,
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTaiout.
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
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>
> ---------------------------------
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> I just recieved a pick of a kodachi that once
> to a very famoius member of the Yagyu familydated
> about 1600. it has just been repolished and isabout
> to be submitted for new papers elevating it to apic I
> national treasure I will ask if I can post the
> was sentThis
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, i'm not a member, I'm just very interested.
> very interesting.details to
>
> Thanks, it helps a lot!
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:
> HI
>
> here is a brief description. I wont go into
> much as I assume you are not a member of eitherryu.
>for the
> kukishinden Ryu (KSDR) Kodachi has only 3 kata
> use of the kodachi. Once source I know may try tosay
> there are a further 7 ura gata for these 3 omotegata,
> but i have seen a Kukishin ryu densho and no uragata
> were listed in it.torso.
>
> In each one the attacker will come at you with a
> katana and he is trying to cut across at your
> The reason for this is you are moving around himand
> you decide when to expose a weak point thereforedoes in
> making him attack the area you choose. Once he
> all three you rush in fast and thrust the kodachiinto
> him.I
>
> In Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu (HYR), I have not studied.
> have been shown the kata once and I have them onsome ura
> video. therefore cant describe them properly.
>
> There are five omote kata and I am told maybe
> gata (which I have not seen or know of). Theylike the
> Kuki kodachi involve thrusting and a few slashingsuch
> as to the neck or torso.KSDR.
>
> The HYR tend to sink lower in kamae than the
>two
> However there is a historical link between the
> ryu.Happo
>
> Kukishinden Ryu is really called Kukishinden
> Biken, and originates from Kukishin ryu (mainbranch
> of that is now Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho) Thisall
> originates from the Kuki family who are todaystill
> soke of the tenshin hyoho branch, and also headOnihei
> priests of the Kuki shrine. IN the 1600s Ohkuni
> was a shihan in the Kukishin ryu and met withTakagi
> Gennoshin from Takagi Yoshin ryu. together theychanged.
> exchanged ideas etc and Takagi Yoshin ryu was
> Kukishin ryu Bojutsu was added to Takagi. In theearly
> 1900's Ishitani (Ishiya) sensei on his death bedYoshin
> handed menkyo kaiden makimono for the Takagi
> ryu to Takamatsu Toshitsugu, they were to bepassed to
> Kakuno one of his students. Both Kakuno andTakamatsu
> held menkyo Kaiden in Takagi Yoshin Ryu andkukishin
> Ryu. sort time later Minaki sensei is handedmenkyo
> kaiden in the kakuno takagi ryu and from him himthe
> HYR is developed.site)
>
> for more indepth info and lines history check out
> these sites.
>
> http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.com/
> http://www.hyrusa.com/index2.html
> http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html
> http://kobe.cool.ne.jp/ikkansai/takagiryu.htm
> http://www.hanako.co.uk/History.htm (my web
>is
> paul
>
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> what's the difference between the Kukishinden Ryu
> Kodachi and the Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu Kodachi? This
> pretty interesting!Yoshin
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai
> Ryu Kodachi.the
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*two I
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi,
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTaiout.
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I know this is a very studid, but I was
> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me
> What is theto:
> kodachi used for? Slap me if you like, please!
>
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> I just recieved a pick of a kodachi that once
> to a very famoius member of the Yagyu familydated
> about 1600. it has just been repolished and isabout
> to be submitted for new papers elevating it to apic I
> national treasure I will ask if I can post the
> was sentThis
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, i'm not a member, I'm just very interested.
> very interesting.details to
>
> Thanks, it helps a lot!
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:
> HI
>
> here is a brief description. I wont go into
> much as I assume you are not a member of eitherryu.
>for the
> kukishinden Ryu (KSDR) Kodachi has only 3 kata
> use of the kodachi. Once source I know may try tosay
> there are a further 7 ura gata for these 3 omotegata,
> but i have seen a Kukishin ryu densho and no uragata
> were listed in it.torso.
>
> In each one the attacker will come at you with a
> katana and he is trying to cut across at your
> The reason for this is you are moving around himand
> you decide when to expose a weak point thereforedoes in
> making him attack the area you choose. Once he
> all three you rush in fast and thrust the kodachiinto
> him.I
>
> In Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu (HYR), I have not studied.
> have been shown the kata once and I have them onsome ura
> video. therefore cant describe them properly.
>
> There are five omote kata and I am told maybe
> gata (which I have not seen or know of). Theylike the
> Kuki kodachi involve thrusting and a few slashingsuch
> as to the neck or torso.KSDR.
>
> The HYR tend to sink lower in kamae than the
>two
> However there is a historical link between the
> ryu.Happo
>
> Kukishinden Ryu is really called Kukishinden
> Biken, and originates from Kukishin ryu (mainbranch
> of that is now Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho) Thisall
> originates from the Kuki family who are todaystill
> soke of the tenshin hyoho branch, and also headOnihei
> priests of the Kuki shrine. IN the 1600s Ohkuni
> was a shihan in the Kukishin ryu and met withTakagi
> Gennoshin from Takagi Yoshin ryu. together theychanged.
> exchanged ideas etc and Takagi Yoshin ryu was
> Kukishin ryu Bojutsu was added to Takagi. In theearly
> 1900's Ishitani (Ishiya) sensei on his death bedYoshin
> handed menkyo kaiden makimono for the Takagi
> ryu to Takamatsu Toshitsugu, they were to bepassed to
> Kakuno one of his students. Both Kakuno andTakamatsu
> held menkyo Kaiden in Takagi Yoshin Ryu andkukishin
> Ryu. sort time later Minaki sensei is handedmenkyo
> kaiden in the kakuno takagi ryu and from him himthe
> HYR is developed.site)
>
> for more indepth info and lines history check out
> these sites.
>
> http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.com/
> http://www.hyrusa.com/index2.html
> http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html
> http://kobe.cool.ne.jp/ikkansai/takagiryu.htm
> http://www.hanako.co.uk/History.htm (my web
>is
> paul
>
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> what's the difference between the Kukishinden Ryu
> Kodachi and the Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu Kodachi? This
> pretty interesting!Yoshin
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai
> Ryu Kodachi.the
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*two I
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi,
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTaiout.
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me
> What is theto:
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>
> I just recieved a pick of a kodachi that once
> to a very famoius member of the Yagyu familydated
> about 1600. it has just been repolished and isabout
> to be submitted for new papers elevating it to apic I
> national treasure I will ask if I can post the
> was sentThis
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, i'm not a member, I'm just very interested.
> very interesting.details to
>
> Thanks, it helps a lot!
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:
> HI
>
> here is a brief description. I wont go into
> much as I assume you are not a member of eitherryu.
>for the
> kukishinden Ryu (KSDR) Kodachi has only 3 kata
> use of the kodachi. Once source I know may try tosay
> there are a further 7 ura gata for these 3 omotegata,
> but i have seen a Kukishin ryu densho and no uragata
> were listed in it.torso.
>
> In each one the attacker will come at you with a
> katana and he is trying to cut across at your
> The reason for this is you are moving around himand
> you decide when to expose a weak point thereforedoes in
> making him attack the area you choose. Once he
> all three you rush in fast and thrust the kodachiinto
> him.I
>
> In Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu (HYR), I have not studied.
> have been shown the kata once and I have them onsome ura
> video. therefore cant describe them properly.
>
> There are five omote kata and I am told maybe
> gata (which I have not seen or know of). Theylike the
> Kuki kodachi involve thrusting and a few slashingsuch
> as to the neck or torso.KSDR.
>
> The HYR tend to sink lower in kamae than the
>two
> However there is a historical link between the
> ryu.Happo
>
> Kukishinden Ryu is really called Kukishinden
> Biken, and originates from Kukishin ryu (mainbranch
> of that is now Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho) Thisall
> originates from the Kuki family who are todaystill
> soke of the tenshin hyoho branch, and also headOnihei
> priests of the Kuki shrine. IN the 1600s Ohkuni
> was a shihan in the Kukishin ryu and met withTakagi
> Gennoshin from Takagi Yoshin ryu. together theychanged.
> exchanged ideas etc and Takagi Yoshin ryu was
> Kukishin ryu Bojutsu was added to Takagi. In theearly
> 1900's Ishitani (Ishiya) sensei on his death bedYoshin
> handed menkyo kaiden makimono for the Takagi
> ryu to Takamatsu Toshitsugu, they were to bepassed to
> Kakuno one of his students. Both Kakuno andTakamatsu
> held menkyo Kaiden in Takagi Yoshin Ryu andkukishin
> Ryu. sort time later Minaki sensei is handedmenkyo
> kaiden in the kakuno takagi ryu and from him himthe
> HYR is developed.site)
>
> for more indepth info and lines history check out
> these sites.
>
> http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.com/
> http://www.hyrusa.com/index2.html
> http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html
> http://kobe.cool.ne.jp/ikkansai/takagiryu.htm
> http://www.hanako.co.uk/History.htm (my web
>is
> paul
>
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> what's the difference between the Kukishinden Ryu
> Kodachi and the Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu Kodachi? This
> pretty interesting!Yoshin
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:Hi
>
> what explaination would you like. I have studied
> Kukishinden Ryu Kodachi and been shown Hon Tai
> Ryu Kodachi.the
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- andrea Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ah, thank you. I'd like to get the explantion of
> Ryu of the kodachi. *slaps self*two I
>
> Richardson Paul wrote:Hi
>
> in some cases the kodachi is also regarded as a
> wakizashi.
>
> Several Ryu still teach the use of the kodachi,
> can name are Kukishinden Ryu (3 kata) and HonTaiout.
> Yoshin Ryu (5 kata and I think some ura gata).
>
> paul
>
>
> --- andjoysmith wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I know this is a very studid, but I was
> wondering about the
> kodachi and what it was used for. Really help me
> What is theto:
> kodachi used for? Slap me if you like, please!
>
>
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