internment camps of WWII

i hope i can ask this clearly.
Most of you know the Internment camp stories of WWII. Where the JA
(japanese american) citizens of the US were detained in "camps".
I'm specifically looking for information concerning the JA
Individuals that were taken just prior to the announcement (and
enforcement) of the internment camp mandate. If what has been told
to me is true, these individuals (held in N. Dakota) would be
the "last" samurai derived of the Satsuma Reb. I'm specifically
looking into a family history which has been held in secret till
2002. So any information would help. Thank you.
Tyler Shimizu

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "falconstar16"
wrote:

> If what has been told
> to me is true, these individuals (held in N. Dakota) would be
> the "last" samurai derived of the Satsuma Reb.

Huh? how do you figure?

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "iganokami" wrote:

> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "falconstar16"
> wrote:
> > If what has been told
> > to me is true, these individuals (held in N. Dakota) would be
> > the "last" samurai derived of the Satsuma Reb.
>
> Huh? how do you figure?

I'm sorry. I'm trying to learn the post-1865 samurai history mostly
concerned with the Japanese American imigrants to the US. I believe
the "last" samurai comment is a vague area. I'll explain.
Known facts :1877 Satsuma led by Saigo Takamori attack Kumamoto
Castle. US tries peace agreements prior to attack.
I understand up to this point.(well documented)
I'm trying to find if the US govt took samarai family names
(hereditary) + first names of all children in family at this time.
Then..fast fwd.. to 1941-42 WWII. Prior to Roosevelt's Ex. Order
9066 (forced internment) there were JA men who were "arrested/taken"
away. No charge against..no explaination(which i want to find).
These men were taken to North Dakota. As I have been told these men
in North Dakota(not sure how many) were all either present or family
were present at the time of Satsuma reb. 1877 and were on the side
of the Imp. Army?? fighting the Satsuma clan. Which makes sense to
me on the US side to see Samurai in US but loyal to fight for
Meiji. But please correct me if my history is in err.
So i'm looking for any information about this. And from my
understanding most of this information was held in both govt. and
samurai family secret until ?late 70's?.
All this information should provide me with the answer to "The
Fastest Hands in Japan"--quoted from a dying 96 yr old man. born 1870

Falcone-
It is well known that a group of Aizu samurai immigrated to the US
after being defeated in the restoration wars. Is it possible that this
is the group your are thinking of? They settled in California and hard
a very hard time of it.
While your story sounds unlikely to me, the one place I would go with
such questions is the Japanese American History Archive;
http://www.jcccnc.org/facility/tenants.htm#jaha. Very kind and helpful
folks,
-t

Tom,
I wish I could explain in detail to how far my great grandfather hid
his samurai past. But in any case, my time is limited in trying to
find his family name before his own kids(my grandma/siblings) pass
away. See he wouldn't even tell them. Only one son knew about his
past and wouldn't talk about it till 2000. One hundred years after
he came to america. Either by old age or never being told the
family name isn't known. So my search will go on... thank you for
your help.
T. Shimizu

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Tom Helm
wrote:

> Falcone-
> It is well known that a group of Aizu samurai immigrated to

the US

> after being defeated in the restoration wars. Is it possible that

this

> is the group your are thinking of? They settled in California and

hard

> a very hard time of it.
> While your story sounds unlikely to me, the one place I

would go with

> such questions is the Japanese American History Archive;
> http://www.jcccnc.org/facility/tenants.htm#jaha. Very kind and

helpful

> folks,
> -t

Shimizu san-
If anyone has the info it is the JAHA, Mr Oka the long time curator
recently passed away but you should still contact them as they will
have the best leads for your search...
-t

On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:41 AM, falconstar16 wrote:

> Tom,
> I wish I could explain in detail to how far my great grandfather hid
> his samurai past. But in any case, my time is limited in trying to
> find his family name before his own kids(my grandma/siblings) pass
> away.  See he wouldn't even tell them.  Only one son knew about his
> past and wouldn't talk about it till 2000.  One hundred years after
> he came to america.  Either by old age or never being told the
> family name isn't known.  So my search will go on... thank you for
> your help.
> T. Shimizu
>