Iaido

Isn´t "Iai" a sword-drawing technique?

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From: Edward Alexander
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Re: Bokken, bokuto, and kodachi


Excuse me,but what's Iaido?????Some form of martial art or what?????
Thank you
Edy
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From: M. R. Williams
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Bokken, bokuto, and kodachi


Mr. Alexander,

Aikidoka, Kendoka, and Iaidoka all mean "one who practices ____" (Aikido,
Kendo, or Iaido depending on the root word). Generally the -ka suffix
attached to the name of a style of martial arts means "practicioner."
I hope that helped.


Peace,

Matt

To all concerned,

Allow me to give a larger definition of Iaido. Back in the 1500s a man
named Hayashizaki Jinsuke Minamoto no Shigenobu sought to learn the sword
arts in order to avenge the death of his father. During the course of his
study he spent a series of days praying and meditating at the Hayashizaki
Jinja during which he received a "divine vision" of techniques involving
drawing the katana and cutting the opponent all in the same motion. After
some more training he sought out his fathers killer and exacted his revenge.
Having repaid his debt to the memory of his father he then founded his own
swordsmanship style. At the time techniques like that were called
battou-jutsu techniques. The name "Iaido" did not come around until the
early 20th Century when a swordsman name Nakayama Hakudo took his gathered
knowledge of (I believe) six different styles based off of Hayashizaki's
teachings and found his own style, called Muso Shinden Ryu Iaido.
That is as good of a quick definition that I can give you. If you have
any more questions about Iaido, be they technical or theoretical, feel free
to ask me.


Peace,

Matt

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I can add something...
There are several "schools" with their iaido's kata;among them are Muso Shinden Ryu Iaido and, also the famous, Yagyu Shinkage Ryu.
I don't know how many schools exist in Japan but now Iaidoka like me learn in particular SEI-TEI-IAI. To make a long story short it is a summa of all the existing kata.
Only 12 kata were choiced to create SEI TEI IAI from all the scholl in Japan.
Theorically these kata represent a samurai who undergoes an attack to surprise and he defeats the enemy by a rapid "battou".
Daniele



"M. R. Williams" <amacobra@...> wrote:
To all concerned,

Allow me to give a larger definition of Iaido. Back in the 1500s a man
named Hayashizaki Jinsuke Minamoto no Shigenobu sought to learn the sword
arts in order to avenge the death of his father. During the course of his
study he spent a series of days praying and meditating at the Hayashizaki
Jinja during which he received a "divine vision" of techniques involving
drawing the katana and cutting the opponent all in the same motion. After
some more training he sought out his fathers killer and exacted his revenge.
Having repaid his debt to the memory of his father he then founded his own
swordsmanship style. At the time techniques like that were called
battou-jutsu techniques. The name "Iaido" did not come around until the
early 20th Century when a swordsman name Nakayama Hakudo took his gathered
knowledge of (I believe) six different styles based off of Hayashizaki's
teachings and found his own style, called Muso Shinden Ryu Iaido.
That is as good of a quick definition that I can give you. If you have
any more questions about Iaido, be they technical or theoretical, feel free
to ask me.


Peace,

Matt

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Ms. Frison,

Good points. My fault for neglecting to name the other styles. As with
all martial arts there are numerous different styles.


Matt

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Hi Matt -

Your post is substantially correct, but I did want to address a
point which might be my misinterpretation of your post -

From my understanding the 'draw-and-cut' in one fluid
movement - batto-jutsu, nuki-uchi et al was in existence before
the appearance of Hayashizaki, however, as you say, as a result
of his application he had a considerable impact on its
development and on the psycho-spiritual dynamic involved in its
philosophy and practice.

What form this latter element took has been lost (or remains
secret) I believe, but Hayashizaki's name was attached to a
plethora of styles, many which sprang from the lineage of his ryu.

Thomas

It's a pleasure for me to talk about these things with interested and acquaintances of Japan things like you...
To conclude I'm a man...
In italy Daniele refers only to male people
SALUT!
Daniele
ps:sorry for my bad english!

"M. R. Williams" <amacobra@...> wrote:
Ms. Frison,

Good points. My fault for neglecting to name the other styles. As with
all martial arts there are numerous different styles.


Matt

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Mr. Davidson,

Very true. I mainly focused on Hayashizaki since he was enshrined for his
contributions to the swordsmanship world. Everything exists, or has
existed, it is just a matter of being the one who gets the credit for it and
Hayashizaki was lucky enough to get the majority of the credit for
battou-jutsu.


Mr. Frison,

My appologies for applying the wrong gender to your name, I neglected to
notice that you are Italian. I hope I did not offend you.


Peace,

Matt

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Surely you did not offend me!It's not a problem!
Love&Peace
Daniele

"M. R. Williams" <amacobra@...> wrote:
Mr. Davidson,

Very true. I mainly focused on Hayashizaki since he was enshrined for his
contributions to the swordsmanship world. Everything exists, or has
existed, it is just a matter of being the one who gets the credit for it and
Hayashizaki was lucky enough to get the majority of the credit for
battou-jutsu.


Mr. Frison,

My appologies for applying the wrong gender to your name, I neglected to
notice that you are Italian. I hope I did not offend you.


Peace,

Matt

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