Niten Ichi Ryu

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Longo" <samuraikensai@...>
To: "Samurai Archives Group" <samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Niten Ichi Ryu


> I kinda get the feel that most people here don't like Miyamoto Musashi.

Heh, I don't think that most people dislike him. It's just the few elitists
getting their say. On one hand, I can't blame them, because they're
constantly having to deal with misconceptions about samurai and feudal Japan
that pop culture has taught people, especially *outside* of Japan. I don't
know all that much about Musashi, but I do know that my boyfriend is greatly
inspired by The Book of Five Rings, and I find there's nothing wrong with
that. That book has inspired many people and I think it's healthy, to be
honest.

I do, however, get annoyed when people make assumptions about history or
historical figures without doing their own research by looking at more
reliable sources. I can't believe how many people have come by here asking
whether Himura Kenshin really existed and whether the events of the anime
are real. Geez. >_> A lot of the "common" information about Musashi is most
likely legends embellished by time (and perhaps by himself and/or his own
admirers), too. I'm no expert on Japanese history, but I'm assuming the
annoyance is coming from people interpreting legends as fact. Nonetheless,
Miyamoto Musashi's Book of Five Rings has inspired a wide range of people,
and I think that's a wonderful thing. The words themselves, I think, are
timeless and don't necessarily have to relate to a particular period of
history.

I must say, though, that the reaction of certain individuals on this list to
newbies asking uninformed questions is quite childish and unbecoming to my
eyes. Perhaps the admin(s) of this list should consider splitting Samurai
History up into two lists, one more pop culture oriented and another more
history oriented. That way, the elitist historian types are less likely to
be faced with questions that make them roll their eyes and act so rudely.
After all, it seems they've pretty much given up on trying to educate people
by correcting their mistakes... so why not just seperate the historians from
the casual fans?

Sally

> I kinda get the feel that most people here don't like Miyamoto Musashi. But
> isn't he worthy of the fame because he created a new martial art, and also
> because he was such a good swordsman?

>>
> I must say, though, that the reaction of certain
> individuals on this list to
> newbies asking uninformed questions is quite
> childish and unbecoming to my
> eyes. Perhaps the admin(s) of this list should
> consider splitting Samurai
> History up into two lists, one more pop culture
> oriented and another more
> history oriented. That way, the elitist historian
> types are less likely to
> be faced with questions that make them roll their
> eyes and act so rudely.

> After all, it seems they've pretty much given up on
> trying to educate people
> by correcting their mistakes... so why not just
> seperate the historians from
> the casual fans?

> I kinda get the feel that most people here don't like Miyamoto

>
>

>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Longo
To: Samurai Archives Group
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:53 AM
Subject: [samuraihistory] Niten Ichi Ryu


I kinda get the feel that most people here don't like Miyamoto Musashi. But isn't he worthy of the fame because he created a new martial art, and also because he was such a good swordsman? Just a question for all to ponder. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly how to draw both swords properly in Niten Ichi Ryu. Also could anyone tell me where I can find sources that will help me teach myself Niten Ichi Ryu, because there aren't any schools for it in my area.

Thanks,

Joel


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>>
> I must say, though, that the reaction of certain
> individuals on this list to
> newbies asking uninformed questions is quite
> childish and unbecoming to my
> eyes. Perhaps the admin(s) of this list should
> consider splitting Samurai
> History up into two lists, one more pop culture
> oriented and another more
> history oriented. That way, the elitist historian
> types are less likely to
> be faced with questions that make them roll their
> eyes and act so rudely.

> I applaud your optimism and your response...I really
> do agree with it. But it'd be easier if we weren't
> besieged almost daily with someone who either still
> thinks the Japanese walk around with swords and that
> ninjas exist, or someone who wants to be one, or
> thinks that anime is a legitimate historical source,
> or...one of a hundred different things.

>
> Bless you, good captain!
>
> Tony