In Memoriam

Too all those who have or believe they have lost friends, family and loves,
in these tragic events that the whole world no doubt knows of, here in
Ireland the flags are at half-mast through Friday 14th Sept, and the whole
country will be at a complete standstill in memoriam of those heroes who
diverted the fourth flight, and those who were unfortunate enough to be on
the others, and working or visiting the World Trade Centre, and serving in
the Pentagon.

We pray for their souls, whatever thier religious origin.

Kagemaru.

As a member of the U.S. Military, but most importantly
as an American, Thank you. Thank you and your country
very much. I think all of us here know someone who was
close to or is affected by these tragic events. Thank
you. Your thoughts are deeply, deeply appreciated.

Nate


--- kagemaru <kagemaru@...> wrote:

> Too all those who have or believe they have lost
> friends, family and loves,
> in these tragic events that the whole world no doubt
> knows of, here in
> Ireland the flags are at half-mast through Friday
> 14th Sept, and the whole
> country will be at a complete standstill in memoriam
> of those heroes who
> diverted the fourth flight, and those who were
> unfortunate enough to be on
> the others, and working or visiting the World Trade
> Centre, and serving in
> the Pentagon.
>
> We pray for their souls, whatever thier religious
> origin.
>
> Kagemaru.
>
>
>
>

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I am a high-school history teacher in Canada. Today (Friday) has been
declared a national day of mourning in our nation, not only for the over 100
Canadian victims, but all other people affected. At this time, we are all
citizens of the world.

Paul

> ----------
> From: Nate Ledbetter[SMTP:ltdomer98@...]
> Reply To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:55 PM
> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] In Memoriam
>
> As a member of the U.S. Military, but most importantly
> as an American, Thank you. Thank you and your country
> very much. I think all of us here know someone who was
> close to or is affected by these tragic events. Thank
> you. Your thoughts are deeply, deeply appreciated.
>
> Nate
>
>
> --- kagemaru <kagemaru@...> wrote:
> > Too all those who have or believe they have lost
> > friends, family and loves,
> > in these tragic events that the whole world no doubt
> > knows of, here in
> > Ireland the flags are at half-mast through Friday
> > 14th Sept, and the whole
> > country will be at a complete standstill in memoriam
> > of those heroes who
> > diverted the fourth flight, and those who were
> > unfortunate enough to be on
> > the others, and working or visiting the World Trade
> > Centre, and serving in
> > the Pentagon.
> >
> > We pray for their souls, whatever thier religious
> > origin.
> >
> > Kagemaru.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Well, none of this is on topic, but I was forwarded the following,
something I never really thought about:

>This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
>
>
>America: The Good Neighbor.
>Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
>recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
>Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
>commentator. What follows is the full text of his
>trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
>"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
>Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
>appreciated people on all the earth.
>
>
>Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
>Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
>Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
>forgave other billions in debts. None of these
>countries is today paying even the interest on its
>remaining debts to the United States.
>
>
>When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
>it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
>reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets
>of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
>
>
>When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
>United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
>American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
>Nobody helped.
>
>
>The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
>billions of dollars! into discouraged countries. Now
>newspapers in those countries are writing about the
>decadent, warmongering Americans.
>
>
>I'd like to see just one of those countries that
>is gloating over the erosion of the United States
>dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country
>in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
>Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
>If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
>International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
>
>
>Why does no other land on earth even consider putting
>a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
>technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German
>technocracy, and you get automobiles.
>
>
>You talk about American technocracy, and you find
>men on the moon -! not once, but several times -
>and safely home again.
>
>
>You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
>right in the store window for everybody to look at.
>Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
>They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
>they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
>dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
>
>
>When the railways of France, Germany and India
>were breaking down through age, it was the Americans
>who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and
>the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
>old caboose. Both are still broke.
>
>
>I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
>to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
>me even one time when someone else raced to the
>Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside
>help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
>
>
>Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
>Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
>kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
>their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled
>to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
>over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of
>those."


--- In samuraihistory@y..., Nate Ledbetter wrote:
> As a member of the U.S. Military, but most importantly
> as an American, Thank you. Thank you and your country
> very much. I think all of us here know someone who was
> close to or is affected by these tragic events. Thank
> you. Your thoughts are deeply, deeply appreciated.
>
> Nate
>
>
> --- kagemaru wrote:
> > Too all those who have or believe they have lost
> > friends, family and loves,
> > in these tragic events that the whole world no doubt
> > knows of, here in
> > Ireland the flags are at half-mast through Friday
> > 14th Sept, and the whole
> > country will be at a complete standstill in memoriam
> > of those heroes who
> > diverted the fourth flight, and those who were
> > unfortunate enough to be on
> > the others, and working or visiting the World Trade
> > Centre, and serving in
> > the Pentagon.
> >
> > We pray for their souls, whatever thier religious
> > origin.
> >
> > Kagemaru.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help?
> Donate cash, emergency relief information
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Hello all,
This is a personal response to the mail I saw with the article from the
Canadian newspaper...I am British, first off and truly resent the statements
decrying the U.K.'s involvement in the 'clean up' operation and any events
pursuant to the attacks. My question is just what else can we do in Britain
to aid the U.S. at this time? We are sending Blood, firemen, police, and
others with knowledge of how to help in the aftermath of a bomb strike
(terrorist activity), our Prime Minister has declared that we will stand
firmly behind any plans the U.S. has to seek 'vengeance' on the guilty party
here...But as a country we are no where near rich enough to supply the
amounts that are needed to truly help. We are doing all that we can to aid
the States at this time but could never supply aid equal to that given by the
U.S. and others in the Second World War. Here is the point...The U.S. has
always been looked upon as the 'saviour of the free world', a kind of 'big
brother' with the power to help in nearly all situations. Some may say that
it is that level of involvement that has made the U.S. the target for the
terrorist parties. My heart truly goes out to all involved in this atrocity,
(see my previous post) But the implication in the article is that we are
standing idly by while the U.S. is attacked. This cannot be farther from the
truth. If the point of the e-mail was to show the stupidity of some reporters
on the case then my points should be disregarded, sorry. But the world does
not need any more rift building and division, blame, or guilt than is already
present. Articles like this sow discord and in my opinion should not be
posted on an international forum like this one. We need to join together if
there is any hope in finding and dealing with the guilty here....We cannot
easily do this if people continually lay the guilt for it on countries that
are genuinly trying to help clear up the situation. Please, take care with
the articles allowed to be shown here. It is not the U.S. against the world,
but the world against the mindless scum willing to commit these attacks.
Sorry if I cause offense here...That is not my intention. Once again, my
heartfelt condolences goes to all those who have suffered as a result of this.
NAMU AMIDA BUTSU.
Ben Sharples
fifthchamber@...

Ben:

Take no offense--that article was written in 1973, and refers to the US after
the Vietnam War. The author died in the early 1980s, if I'm not mistaken.

"US bashing" has been popular worldwide for years, and America quietly takes
it. It has been wonderful seeing the response to Tuesday's bombings from the
UK (especially to the recent BBC debate TV show that showed an unusually high
number of anti-US participants--y'all shut them down quickly!). Germany has
also been surprisingly supportive. You are acting not merely as allies, but
as friends.

Thanks for the support--nobody over here is mad at Britain today!

Cordially,
Patrick Howard

fifthchamber@... writes:

> This is a personal response to the mail I saw with the article from the
> Canadian newspaper...I am British, first off and truly resent the
> statements
> decrying the U.K.'s involvement in the 'clean up' operation and any events
>

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