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#2925 [2003-12-19 12:05:28]

Sharpness in soul or in the steel? was: Re: Hi

by mahamayuri

Hi Josh and all

Once I had a parlance about this issue with some Sensei of Iai-D�, and what
I could understand about it is that yes, of course, the craftsmanship level
of the crafter is important.

But the most important thing is the soul of a samurai!
It is inside the soul that there must be the REAL and most important
sharpness!

And I was able to saw even an practical demonstration of that.

At unskilled hands, even a good blade of a true traditional Katana would
shatters blowing an slice at a bamboo, however an master of Iai-do is able
to slice an piece of iai-do in public with an very thin and fragile replica
of a katana blade made with wood!!!

Remember also that Miyamoto Musashi was able to kill more than 200 people
alone with only his Bokuto-no-ken (a wood-made katana just like the initial
sword of Chrono at the old Sness RPG called Chrono Thrigger by Square
Software, the same of the nowaddays Final Fantasy X)


So, I guess much that nowaddays lads gets as "just symbolic" information on
the classical texts, may have an more literal meaning than much people even
suspect...

Good Festivities to ya all
Akemashite Omedetou

Octavio Augusto Okimoto Alves de Carvalho
S�o Paulo - SP




>Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:29:19 -0500
> From: "Josh Wilson"
>Subject: Re: Hi
>Yes, after being forged, the blades would then be tested on the corpses of
>criminals. After that, it would be returned to the maker to be stamped how
>well it held up, but it was mroe for a durability test than a sharpness
>test, as any sharp blade could cut, but not every blade would stay intact.
>Some may crack or even break entirely if the craftsmanship was flawed.
>
>Wilson
>
>--
>
>--------- Original Message ---------
>DATE: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:13:27
>From: Chris Ketterling
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Cc:
>
>Actually the blades use to have a symbol for how many
>bodies it could slice through which determined how
>sharp it was.
>
>--- Josh Wilson wrote:
>> Well AJ, I reckon its my turn *smacks his head on
>> the desk* How sharp is any blade?? The Katana could
>> be razor sharp or dull as a golf club.. the katana
>> is revered bcos it is a symbol of life and death...
>> not bcos its sharp..
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --------- Original Message ---------
>> DATE: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:51:36
>> From: "Aaron Sokolowski"
>>
>> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc:
>>
>> I was wondering how sharp is the samurai katana?
>>
>>
>>

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#2926 [2003-12-19 12:39:08]

RE: Sharpness in soul or in the steel? was: Re: Hi

by kitsuno

"The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in
the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who
has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do,
and so the expert isn't prepared for him; he does the thing he ought not to do;
and often it catches the expert out and ends him on the spot."
-Mark Twain

"Sharp-souled Samurai bleed just as well as the dull-souled when cut."
-Me

>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>From: Medhal Mikit St�r-ljon Oddhinsson [mailto:medhal8@...]
>Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:05 PM
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Sharpness in soul or in the steel? was: Re: Hi


>>Hi Josh and all

>>Once I had a parlance about this issue with some Sensei of Iai-D�, and what
I could understand about it is that yes, of course, the craftsmanship level
of the crafter is important.

>>But the most important thing is the soul of a samurai!
It is inside the soul that there must be the REAL and most important
sharpness!

>>And I was able to saw even an practical demonstration of that.

>>At unskilled hands, even a good blade of a true traditional Katana would
shatters blowing an slice at a bamboo, however an master of Iai-do is able
to slice an piece of iai-do in public with an very thin and fragile replica
of a katana blade made with wood!!!

>>Remember also that Miyamoto Musashi was able to kill more than 200 people
alone with only his Bokuto-no-ken (a wood-made katana just like the initial
sword of Chrono at the old Sness RPG called Chrono Thrigger by Square
Software, the same of the nowaddays Final Fantasy X)


>>So, I guess much that nowaddays lads gets as "just symbolic" information on
the classical texts, may have an more literal meaning than much people even
suspect...

>>Good Festivities to ya all
Akemashite Omedetou

>>Octavio Augusto Okimoto Alves de Carvalho
S�o Paulo - SP

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#2938 [2003-12-19 22:37:21]

Re: [samuraihistory] RE: Sharpness in soul or in the steel? was: Re: Hi

by twheels2many

Mark Twain would have loved Bill Murray in "The Man Who Knew Too Little", lol.
>
> "The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman
> in
> the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist
> who
> has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to
> do,
> and so the expert isn't prepared for him; he does the thing he ought not to do;
> and often it catches the expert out and ends him on the spot."
> -Mark Twain
>
> "Sharp-souled Samurai bleed just as well as the dull-souled when cut."
> -Me
>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Medhal Mikit St�r-ljon Oddhinsson [mailto:medhal8@...]
> >Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:05 PM
> >To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Sharpness in soul or in the steel? was: Re: Hi
>
>
> >>Hi Josh and all
>
> >>Once I had a parlance about this issue with some Sensei of Iai-D�, and what
> I could understand about it is that yes, of course, the craftsmanship level
> of the crafter is important.
>
> >>But the most important thing is the soul of a samurai!
> It is inside the soul that there must be the REAL and most important
> sharpness!
>
> >>And I was able to saw even an practical demonstration of that.
>
> >>At unskilled hands, even a good blade of a true traditional Katana would
> shatters blowing an slice at a bamboo, however an master of Iai-do is able
> to slice an piece of iai-do in public with an very thin and fragile replica
> of a katana blade made with wood!!!
>
> >>Remember also that Miyamoto Musashi was able to kill more than 200 people
> alone with only his Bokuto-no-ken (a wood-made katana just like the initial
> sword of Chrono at the old Sness RPG called Chrono Thrigger by Square
> Software, the same of the nowaddays Final Fantasy X)
>
>
> >>So, I guess much that nowaddays lads gets as "just symbolic" information on
> the classical texts, may have an more literal meaning than much people even
> suspect...
>
> >>Good Festivities to ya all
> Akemashite Omedetou
>
> >>Octavio Augusto Okimoto Alves de Carvalho
> S�o Paulo - SP
>
>
>
>
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