> Hello Everyone, Im Kyosuke. I'm new to the forum and__________________________________
> all, but I know
> a great lot about samurai, weapons, and ancient
> japan. I myself,
> follow the Bushido, so you could say I am a real
> life Samurai, though
> Samurai's have been outlawed since the late 1800's,
> I still consider
> myself one. I've been to Japan, and studied the
> fighting skills from
> Sensei Ichi Hayamatsu, learned the old culture and
> the respects. And
> with this, I've become a Samurai. I want to be the
> one to say how Im
> honored in joining this forum, and expect a lot of
> great stuff from
> you all as well.
>
> That is all.
> -Kyosuke Miyamoto
>
> P.S. Im also A fanatic of old Samurai Movies. If
> you'd like we can
> talk of them.
>
>
>
> listen, by saying you're a samurai you've just givenThank you. You've saved me a lot of aggravated typing.
> most of us a HUGE headache.
> The Angry Llama wrote:__________________________________
> > listen, by saying you're a samurai you've just
> given
> > most of us a HUGE headache.
>
> Thank you. You've saved me a lot of aggravated
> typing.
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ....a great lot about samurai, weapons, and ancient japan. Imyself,
> follow the Bushido, so you could say I am a real life Samurai,though
> Samurai's have been outlawed since the late 1800's, I stillconsider
> myself one.
> Hello Everyone, Im Kyosuke. I'm new to the forum and__________________________________
> all, but I know
> a great lot about samurai, weapons, and ancient
> japan. I myself,
> follow the Bushido, so you could say I am a real
> life Samurai, though
> Samurai's have been outlawed since the late 1800's,
> I still consider
> myself one. I've been to Japan, and studied the
> fighting skills from
> Sensei Ichi Hayamatsu, learned the old culture and
> the respects. And
> with this, I've become a Samurai. I want to be the
> one to say how Im
> honored in joining this forum, and expect a lot of
> great stuff from
> you all as well.
>
> That is all.
> -Kyosuke Miyamoto
>
> P.S. Im also A fanatic of old Samurai Movies. If
> you'd like we can
> talk of them.
>
>
>
> It makes far more sense to call yourself a__________________________________
> "dedicated follower of
> Bushido" rather than a "Samurai" for an almost
> infinite number of
> reasons reasons. Let's put it this way,
>
> "Some Samurai followed Bushido, but Bushido was not
> followed by all
> Samurai. You follow Bushido. That does not make
> you a Samurai."
>
> We'll even ignore the fact that 'Samurai' was a
> social class, and
> not a product of Bushido, but Bushido was a product
> of a few Samurai
> with nothing better to do than justify their
> lecherous existence
> during the Edo period, and then gathered a following
> because it made
> them look honorable and useful.
>
> I'm surprised that you think this way if you've been
> to Japan, as
> you should know that any remnants of bushido are
> long, long gone in
> that society, and I Gaijin attempting to play
> Samurai would be
> thought a moron at best.
>
> > ....a great lot about samurai, weapons, and
> ancient japan. I
> myself,
> > follow the Bushido, so you could say I am a real
> life Samurai,
> though
> > Samurai's have been outlawed since the late
> 1800's, I still
> consider
> > myself one.
>
>
> First on the forum, now on here. it can't be escaped!I know. Sigh.
> Hey Angry LllamaNot quite. He was an old guy from a failed clan writing in a time of peace about
>
> That is true what you said about the hagakure being a rather late development
> (1716), but I figure Yamamoto Tsunetomo was "standing on the shoulders" of
> those who went before him.
> golfmandan@... wrote:__________________________________
>
> > Hey Angry Lllama
> >
> > That is true what you said about the hagakure
> being a rather late development
> > (1716), but I figure Yamamoto Tsunetomo was
> "standing on the shoulders" of
> > those who went before him.
>
> Not quite. He was an old guy from a failed clan
> writing in a time of peace about
> events and ideals centuries behind him that he had
> no first-hand knowledge of.
> As one of my profs put it, "it was the demented
> writings of a wannabe warrior
> with a death fixation from a failed clan."
>
>
> Tony
>
>
> i dont say im a samurai. but i know some stuf about__________________________________
> them, if some one can tell me where to find some
> books about bushido please help me.
>
> The Angry Llama <klancesegall@...>
> wrote:listen, by saying you're a samurai you've just
> given
> most of us a HUGE headache.
> You DO know that the Bushido was an invention of the
> Edo era to keep samurai in line and give them a
> purpose in society? that the only people who EVER
> used
> bushido in combat were the Shinsen gumi, and that it
> showed a marvelous FAILURE? No, by following the
> Bushido you are NOT a samurai, you are a
> dissillusioned individual.
> The samurai were not "outlawed" as some people like
> to
> believe, they had their status removed. Which means
> that if you were a samurai before the bakumatsu, you
> were NOT still a samurai in the Meiji era. The only
> possible exception might be Saigo Takamori and the
> Satsuma Rebellion. Listen, no one today is a
> samurai.
> And its really sad to think of yourself as one just
> because you follow a code of ethics from the lowest
> period in the history of the samurai.
> That being said it is great that you follow martial
> arts, I do so myself. And I'd be interested in
> hearing
> what all you have to know about the historical
> samurai.
> --- kyosuke_miyamoto <kyosuke_miyamoto@...>
> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone, Im Kyosuke. I'm new to the forum
> and
> > all, but I know
> > a great lot about samurai, weapons, and ancient
> > japan. I myself,
> > follow the Bushido, so you could say I am a real
> > life Samurai, though
> > Samurai's have been outlawed since the late
> 1800's,
> > I still consider
> > myself one. I've been to Japan, and studied the
> > fighting skills from
> > Sensei Ichi Hayamatsu, learned the old culture and
> > the respects. And
> > with this, I've become a Samurai. I want to be the
> > one to say how Im
> > honored in joining this forum, and expect a lot of
> > great stuff from
> > you all as well.
> >
> > That is all.
> > -Kyosuke Miyamoto
> >
> > P.S. Im also A fanatic of old Samurai Movies. If
> > you'd like we can
> > talk of them.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Hey Angry Lllama__________________________________
>
> That is true what you said about the hagakure being
> a rather late development (1716), but I
> figure Yamamoto Tsunetomo was "standing on the
> shoulders" of those who went before him.
> To say that there was no bushido before 1716... is
> it really fair to claim that? Just because it
> wasn't written down? Sure, it may have varied from
> region to region and era to era, but the
> samurai as a caste surely had a set of expectations
> or ethics - whether self-imposed or
> imposed by others. If I'm way off base, let me know.
> Related to this, I'd like to know: is there
> any evidence for "bushido" prior to the Hagakure?
> What are the other main pieces of samurai
> literature?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> The Angry Llama wrote:Thank you all for your bashing...I shall never forget you
>
> > First on the forum, now on here. it can't be escaped!
>
> I know. Sigh.
>
> Lord, I need a drink.
>
>
> Tony
> Thank you all for your bashing...I shall never forget youAh, don't take it personally. Some people hand out knowledge on a
>>
>Kyosuke,I don't know about accuracy, but there have been TV dramas and the like
>
> Welcome to the group. I have a question about samurai movies. Have
>there been any movies made about the Satsuma Rebellion of 1877?
>
> I just saw "The Last Samurai" today and I enjoyed it very much, despite
>the historical liberties that were taken. But I was wondering if anyone in
>Japan has made a more historically accurate movie about that period?
>
>
>
>>
> i dont say im a samurai. but i know some stuf about__________________________________
> them, if some one can tell me where to find some
> books about bushido please help me.
>
> The Angry Llama <klancesegall@...>
> wrote:listen, by saying you're a samurai you've just
> given
> most of us a HUGE headache.
> You DO know that the Bushido was an invention of the
> Edo era to keep samurai in line and give them a
> purpose in society? that the only people who EVER
> used
> bushido in combat were the Shinsen gumi, and that it
> showed a marvelous FAILURE? No, by following the
> Bushido you are NOT a samurai, you are a
> dissillusioned individual.
> The samurai were not "outlawed" as some people like
> to
> believe, they had their status removed. Which means
> that if you were a samurai before the bakumatsu, you
> were NOT still a samurai in the Meiji era. The only
> possible exception might be Saigo Takamori and the
> Satsuma Rebellion. Listen, no one today is a
> samurai.
> And its really sad to think of yourself as one just
> because you follow a code of ethics from the lowest
> period in the history of the samurai.
> That being said it is great that you follow martial
> arts, I do so myself. And I'd be interested in
> hearing
> what all you have to know about the historical
> samurai.
> --- kyosuke_miyamoto <kyosuke_miyamoto@...>
> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone, Im Kyosuke. I'm new to the forum
> and
> > all, but I know
> > a great lot about samurai, weapons, and ancient
> > japan. I myself,
> > follow the Bushido, so you could say I am a real
> > life Samurai, though
> > Samurai's have been outlawed since the late
> 1800's,
> > I still consider
> > myself one. I've been to Japan, and studied the
> > fighting skills from
> > Sensei Ichi Hayamatsu, learned the old culture and
> > the respects. And
> > with this, I've become a Samurai. I want to be the
> > one to say how Im
> > honored in joining this forum, and expect a lot of
> > great stuff from
> > you all as well.
> >
> > That is all.
> > -Kyosuke Miyamoto
> >
> > P.S. Im also A fanatic of old Samurai Movies. If
> > you'd like we can
> > talk of them.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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On Dec 9, 2003, at 4:41 AM, William&Mikiko Letham wrote:
> Taiga Drama is a year long historical drama (about 49 episodes; used
> to be
> 50) that airs from January to December. It started in 1963. Most of the
> dramas take place in the sengoku or bakumatsu period. They usually
> have the
> biggest stars in Japan. This years which just finished here in Japan
> was
> Musashi, next years will be Shinsengumi. A condensed version is often
> shown
> at the end of the year, and this it was is available on video and DVD
> (Tobu
> Ga Gotuku is one of them). the only full length one I have seen
> released is
> 1983s Tokugawa Ieyasu. The ones available here are of course without
> subtitles.
>
> Another miniseries about Saigo Takamori is Takarazaka with Satomi
> Kotaro.
> Its about 4hrs long and is on Video. Its also shown frequently on
> cable. The
> Family Channel here in Japan will repeat it as well as some other
> recent
> jidai geki over the shogatsu holidays.
>
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On Dec 10, 2003, at 3:44 AM, William&Mikiko Letham wrote:
>
> 1963 Hana no Shogai (Ii Naosuke) This one aired from April to December
> 1964 Ako Roshi (Chushingura) This was the first full length year long
> drama.
> 1965 Taiko-Ki (Hideyoshi)
> 1966 Minamoto Yoshitsune
> 1967 San Shimai (Three sisters from Bakumastu to Meiji)
> 1968 Ryoma Ga Yuku (Sakamoto Ryoma)
> 1969 Ten to Chi to (Uesugi Kenshin) The first one in color.
> 1970 Momi no ki wa Nokkota (Harada Kai)
> 1971 Haru no Sakamichi (Yagyu Munenori)
> 1972 Shin Heiki Monogatari
> 1973 Kunitori Monogatari (Saito Dosan)
> 1974 Katsu Kaishu
> 1975 Genroku Taiheiki (Chushingura again!)
> 1976 Kaza to Kumo to Niji to (Taira Masakado)
> 1977 Kashin (Choshu in Bakumatsu)
> 1978 Ogon no Hibi (Sengoku merchants in the Philipines)
> 1979 Kusa Moueru (Hojo Masako)
> 1980 Shishi no Jidai (Two samurai in the Bakumatsu-Meiji period)
> 1981 Onna Taiko-ki (Nene's story)
> 1982 Toge no Gunzo (Chushingura once again!)
> 1983 Tokugawa Ieyasu
> 1984 Sanga Moyu (WWII)
> 1985 Haru no Hato (Taisho period womens story)
> 1986 Inochi (Post WWII)
> 1987 Doku ganryu Masamune (Date Masamune)
> 1988 Takeda Shingen
> 1989 Kasuga Tsubone
> 1990 Tobu Ga Gotoku (Saigo Takamori & Okubo Toshimichi)
> 1991 Taiheiki (Nanbokucho period)
> 1992 Nobunaga
> 1993 Ryuku no Kaze (Okinawa in Early Edo) This drama ran for 6 months
> followed by
> 1993/94 Homura Tatsu (Oshu Fujiwara) This one ran from July 93 to
> March 94
> 1994 Hana no Ran (Onin no Ran) This ran from April to December
> 1995 Hachi Dai Shogun Yoshimune
> 1996 Hideyoshi
> 1997 Mori Motonari
> 1998 Tokugawa Yoshinobu
> 1999 Genroku Ryoran (Chushingura yet again!!!!!)
> 2000 Aoi Tokugawa Sandai (first 3 Tokugawa Shoguns)
> 2001 Hojo Tokimune
> 2002 Toshiie to Matsu
> 2003 Musashi
> 2004 Shinsengumi
> 2005 Yoshitsune
>
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> "One question: does anybody have a 'chronology' of the Taigadrama??
> What was shown on a certain year and so on...?"December
>
> Here goes
>
> 1963 Hana no Shogai (Ii Naosuke) This one aired from April to
> 1964 Ako Roshi (Chushingura) This was the first full length yearlong drama.
> 1965 Taiko-Ki (Hideyoshi)months
> 1966 Minamoto Yoshitsune
> 1967 San Shimai (Three sisters from Bakumastu to Meiji)
> 1968 Ryoma Ga Yuku (Sakamoto Ryoma)
> 1969 Ten to Chi to (Uesugi Kenshin) The first one in color.
> 1970 Momi no ki wa Nokkota (Harada Kai)
> 1971 Haru no Sakamichi (Yagyu Munenori)
> 1972 Shin Heiki Monogatari
> 1973 Kunitori Monogatari (Saito Dosan)
> 1974 Katsu Kaishu
> 1975 Genroku Taiheiki (Chushingura again!)
> 1976 Kaza to Kumo to Niji to (Taira Masakado)
> 1977 Kashin (Choshu in Bakumatsu)
> 1978 Ogon no Hibi (Sengoku merchants in the Philipines)
> 1979 Kusa Moueru (Hojo Masako)
> 1980 Shishi no Jidai (Two samurai in the Bakumatsu-Meiji period)
> 1981 Onna Taiko-ki (Nene's story)
> 1982 Toge no Gunzo (Chushingura once again!)
> 1983 Tokugawa Ieyasu
> 1984 Sanga Moyu (WWII)
> 1985 Haru no Hato (Taisho period womens story)
> 1986 Inochi (Post WWII)
> 1987 Doku ganryu Masamune (Date Masamune)
> 1988 Takeda Shingen
> 1989 Kasuga Tsubone
> 1990 Tobu Ga Gotoku (Saigo Takamori & Okubo Toshimichi)
> 1991 Taiheiki (Nanbokucho period)
> 1992 Nobunaga
> 1993 Ryuku no Kaze (Okinawa in Early Edo) This drama ran for 6
> followed byMarch 94
> 1993/94 Homura Tatsu (Oshu Fujiwara) This one ran from July 93 to
> 1994 Hana no Ran (Onin no Ran) This ran from April to Decemberwith the
> 1995 Hachi Dai Shogun Yoshimune
> 1996 Hideyoshi
> 1997 Mori Motonari
> 1998 Tokugawa Yoshinobu
> 1999 Genroku Ryoran (Chushingura yet again!!!!!)
> 2000 Aoi Tokugawa Sandai (first 3 Tokugawa Shoguns)
> 2001 Hojo Tokimune
> 2002 Toshiie to Matsu
> 2003 Musashi
> 2004 Shinsengumi
> 2005 Yoshitsune
>
> Every year end there are dozens of companion books to go along
> upcoming series that also gives some info on past series.
> "One question: does anybody have a 'chronology' of the Taigadrama??
> What was shown on a certain year and so on...?"December
>
> Here goes
>
> 1963 Hana no Shogai (Ii Naosuke) This one aired from April to
> 1964 Ako Roshi (Chushingura) This was the first full length yearlong drama.
> 1965 Taiko-Ki (Hideyoshi)months
> 1966 Minamoto Yoshitsune
> 1967 San Shimai (Three sisters from Bakumastu to Meiji)
> 1968 Ryoma Ga Yuku (Sakamoto Ryoma)
> 1969 Ten to Chi to (Uesugi Kenshin) The first one in color.
> 1970 Momi no ki wa Nokkota (Harada Kai)
> 1971 Haru no Sakamichi (Yagyu Munenori)
> 1972 Shin Heiki Monogatari
> 1973 Kunitori Monogatari (Saito Dosan)
> 1974 Katsu Kaishu
> 1975 Genroku Taiheiki (Chushingura again!)
> 1976 Kaza to Kumo to Niji to (Taira Masakado)
> 1977 Kashin (Choshu in Bakumatsu)
> 1978 Ogon no Hibi (Sengoku merchants in the Philipines)
> 1979 Kusa Moueru (Hojo Masako)
> 1980 Shishi no Jidai (Two samurai in the Bakumatsu-Meiji period)
> 1981 Onna Taiko-ki (Nene's story)
> 1982 Toge no Gunzo (Chushingura once again!)
> 1983 Tokugawa Ieyasu
> 1984 Sanga Moyu (WWII)
> 1985 Haru no Hato (Taisho period womens story)
> 1986 Inochi (Post WWII)
> 1987 Doku ganryu Masamune (Date Masamune)
> 1988 Takeda Shingen
> 1989 Kasuga Tsubone
> 1990 Tobu Ga Gotoku (Saigo Takamori & Okubo Toshimichi)
> 1991 Taiheiki (Nanbokucho period)
> 1992 Nobunaga
> 1993 Ryuku no Kaze (Okinawa in Early Edo) This drama ran for 6
> followed byMarch 94
> 1993/94 Homura Tatsu (Oshu Fujiwara) This one ran from July 93 to
> 1994 Hana no Ran (Onin no Ran) This ran from April to Decemberwith the
> 1995 Hachi Dai Shogun Yoshimune
> 1996 Hideyoshi
> 1997 Mori Motonari
> 1998 Tokugawa Yoshinobu
> 1999 Genroku Ryoran (Chushingura yet again!!!!!)
> 2000 Aoi Tokugawa Sandai (first 3 Tokugawa Shoguns)
> 2001 Hojo Tokimune
> 2002 Toshiie to Matsu
> 2003 Musashi
> 2004 Shinsengumi
> 2005 Yoshitsune
>
> Every year end there are dozens of companion books to go along
> upcoming series that also gives some info on past series.