Japanese Samurai History

#2592 [2003-11-29 16:56:41]

Yakuza

by nihontonut

I was wondering about the origins of the yakuza, I have herd that they originated from porters, (a group
that were easily recognized by their extensive body art). Or were they simply a mixed group of rufians
and wayward ronin? All this is assumeing that they originated in the 18th or 19th centurys, or are they
a much more recent development?

Dave Jackson

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#2617 [2003-12-01 19:17:40]

Re: [samuraihistory] Yakuza

by goodfella26426

They originated from firemen.. the different groups of fire brigades were much like gangs with their own colours and flags and such.. if more than one group arrived to the scene of a fire at once, then they wuold duke it out over who got to be the lucky ones to have the glory of putting out the blaze.. One person would hoist the banner up to the top of the building to show that his brigade was fighting the flames, until either the fire was put out, or the fire consumed him... Or at least, this is what I was taught in Japanese culture class..

Wilson

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I was wondering about the origins of the yakuza, I have herd that they originated from porters, (a group
that were easily recognized by their extensive body art). Or were they simply a mixed group of rufians
and wayward ronin? All this is assumeing that they originated in the 18th or 19th centurys, or are they
a much more recent development?

Dave Jackson

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#2619 [2003-12-01 20:06:40]

Re: [samuraihistory] Yakuza

by jaso1670

Best Yakuza link I've found:

http://morpho.dar.net/~northrup/yakuza.html

-Thom

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> They originated from firemen.. the different groups of fire brigades were
much like gangs with their own colours and flags and such.. if more than one
group arrived to the scene of a fire at once, then they wuold duke it out
over who got to be the lucky ones to have the glory of putting out the
blaze.. One person would hoist the banner up to the top of the building to
show that his brigade was fighting the flames, until either the fire was put
out, or the fire consumed him... Or at least, this is what I was taught in
Japanese culture class..
>
> Wilson
>
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> --------- Original Message ---------
> DATE: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:41
> From: Dave Jackson <nihontonut@...>
> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
>
> I was wondering about the origins of the yakuza, I have herd that they
originated from porters, (a group
> that were easily recognized by their extensive body art). Or were they
simply a mixed group of rufians
> and wayward ronin? All this is assumeing that they originated in the 18th
or 19th centurys, or are they
> a much more recent development?
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> Dave Jackson
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#2620 [2003-12-01 21:47:01]

Re: Yakuza

by kitsuno

That's interesting - the Yakuza man I met claimed to be part of the
Yamaguchi-Gumi....

Long story.

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> Best Yakuza link I've found:
>
> http://morpho.dar.net/~northrup/yakuza.html
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> -Thom
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh Wilson"
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> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Yakuza
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> > They originated from firemen.. the different groups of fire

brigades were

> much like gangs with their own colours and flags and such.. if

more than one

> group arrived to the scene of a fire at once, then they wuold duke

it out

> over who got to be the lucky ones to have the glory of putting out

the

> blaze.. One person would hoist the banner up to the top of the

building to

> show that his brigade was fighting the flames, until either the

fire was put

> out, or the fire consumed him... Or at least, this is what I was

taught in

> Japanese culture class..
> >
> > Wilson
> >
> >
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> > --------- Original Message ---------
> > DATE: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:41
> > From: Dave Jackson
> > To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
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> >
> > I was wondering about the origins of the yakuza, I have herd

that they

> originated from porters, (a group
> > that were easily recognized by their extensive body art). Or

were they

> simply a mixed group of rufians
> > and wayward ronin? All this is assumeing that they originated in

the 18th

> or 19th centurys, or are they
> > a much more recent development?
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