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#2010 [2003-08-01 16:01:13]

Bushido

by neo_fiasco13

hi! just wnat to ask if anybody here could help me about the code of
ethics of the samurai and if there are any contents of the bushido?
thank you.

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#2011 [2003-08-02 05:08:41]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by fralucadabo2000

Hy Myumi

try to read Tutsenomo - Hagakure, the code of Samurai.
This book speak about on "modus vivendi" of Bushi.

Luca
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#2012 [2003-08-02 10:35:37]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by Matthew Hodges

I have read Hagakure (The Hidden Leaves) and have found it to be very resourceful in everyday living. It does discuss some ethics of the samurai and is very informative on how a samurai was suppose to live his life. I would recommend that you read this book if you want to find out about the ethics of the samurai.


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#2013 [2003-08-02 13:28:26]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by goodfella26426

I have read excepts from the hagakure, but never read the full thing.. an excellent book to read tho is the book of five rings.. it doesnt really go into a chivalrous code, but it does offer advice in every sentence that can be used in everyday life, much like the hagakure..

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I have read Hagakure (The Hidden Leaves) and have found it to be very resourceful in everyday living. It does discuss some ethics of the samurai and is very informative on how a samurai was suppose to live his life. I would recommend that you read this book if you want to find out about the ethics of the samurai.


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#2015 [2003-08-04 01:37:27]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by brixhammovies

Do an internet search for The hagakure, one of the famous old witings on bushido.

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#2016 [2003-08-04 12:52:34]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by mayalan

try also "the code of the samurai" by daidoji yuzan.


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#2017 [2003-08-04 11:45:39]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by nihontonut

Hi
There isnt an actual written code but it varys depending on the source as to what is in it, but its main points are loyalty to
ones lord above everything else even ones own family. And you must be ready to die on a moments notice. there are also
many sources that speak of keeping your armour and weapons in good repair and to practice your martial skills.
I hope this helps.

regards
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#2019 [2003-08-04 20:06:15]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by Matthew Hodges

Hi,

I would have to say that Hagakure is one of the best sources if you want to know the code and ethics of the Samurai. I have read it over at least 5 times and some of the stuff is very complicated, just because it is hard to understand. If anyone else has read Hagakure and has had this problem, please share what you find hard to understand because their is one such line that I cannot comprehend. "The master took a book from it's box. When he opened it there was the smell of drying clovebuds." I find that hard to understand, because that is the only thing in the passage.




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#2021 [2003-08-05 01:38:32]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by brixhammovies

I think that may have related to paying attention to detail even by making the book smell nice?

Matthew Hodges <senseichu@...> wrote:Hi,

I would have to say that Hagakure is one of the best sources if you want to know the code and ethics of the Samurai. I have read it over at least 5 times and some of the stuff is very complicated, just because it is hard to understand. If anyone else has read Hagakure and has had this problem, please share what you find hard to understand because their is one such line that I cannot comprehend. "The master took a book from it's box. When he opened it there was the smell of drying clovebuds." I find that hard to understand, because that is the only thing in the passage.




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#2023 [2003-08-06 10:36:15]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by Matthew Hodges

Thanks I was just wondering because I really would like to be able to understand all I can from Hagakure. It is really a fascinating book. It does a great job at showing the difference in today's society compared to how it was then, I think just about everything in Hagakure would be considered obscene in society today.

"the media and Aikido student.." <warrior_of_bushido@...> wrote:I think that may have related to paying attention to detail even by making the book smell nice?

Matthew Hodges <senseichu@...> wrote:Hi,

I would have to say that Hagakure is one of the best sources if you want to know the code and ethics of the Samurai. I have read it over at least 5 times and some of the stuff is very complicated, just because it is hard to understand. If anyone else has read Hagakure and has had this problem, please share what you find hard to understand because their is one such line that I cannot comprehend. "The master took a book from it's box. When he opened it there was the smell of drying clovebuds." I find that hard to understand, because that is the only thing in the passage.




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#2024 [2003-08-06 02:01:01]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by deanwayland

Be aware that the first time that the ideas known to us as Bushido,
weren't written down formally until just after 1700, one hundred years
after the great civil wars had really ended, right in the middle of the
Edo era. The code was promoted by the Tokugawa shoguns, so as to turn
the now redundant samurai class in to administrators and warriors
(individual fighters) rather than soldiers (team players), to help
ensure continuing peace. This policy was so effective that after the
dreadful performance of the samurai in their attempts to put down the
Shinabara rebellion of mainly farmers in 1638, the planned invasion of
the Philippines was cancelled and the country completely sealed. So when
reading anything on Bushido, keep in mind its political purpose.

Yours
Dean
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#2027 [2003-08-07 07:46:08]

Re: Re: Bushido

by James Eckman

>
>
> From: Dean Wayland <dean@...>
>
>
>Be aware that the first time that the ideas known to us as Bushido,
>weren't written down formally until just after 1700, one hundred years
>after the great civil wars had really ended
>
One of the other political purposes was to promote loyalty to those
above you, not a characteristic of the Sengoku jidai which could be
named the age of treachery without too much stretching.

Jim Eckman

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#2028 [2003-08-07 01:36:32]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by mvilenius

> Be aware that the first time that the ideas known to us as Bushido,
> weren't written down formally until just after 1700, one hundred
years
> after the great civil wars had really ended, right in the middle of
the
> Edo era.

Indeed! An even at that time the written down codes were more of
certain persons oppinions than concensus of how all the members of the
bushi class thought. In Hakagure for example Tsunetomo critisizes the
47 rônin, who usually are considered the shining examples of bushidô.
Hagakure also didn't seem to be widely read during the time of it's
writing, but was mostly used during the earlier part of 1900s, several
decades after the "samurai" ceased to exist, to promote "yamato
damashii" and was very popular with the right wing politicians and the
military.
I like Hakagure very much. For me it gives an interesting window to
certain period in Japanese history through one persons eyes. The best
thing for me that it has to offer are the "news" (more like rumours)
that were circulating around and that Tsunetomo wrote down.

Well enough of ranting from me... there are more knowledgeable people
who have written on the subject:
http://www.koryu.com/library/kfriday2.html

-Mikko Vilenius

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#2037 [2003-08-11 17:41:17]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by soshuju

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/9151/bushido.htm

Jin - compassion

Gi - honesty

Chu - loyalty

Ko - piety

Rei - courtesy

Chi - wisdom

Shin - sincerity

Tei - Humanitarianism (roughly)

My Sensei believes they left out;

Yu - courage

Meyo - honor

This may be the most succinct "content" for Bushido one will find...
-t

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#2038 [2003-08-12 08:38:50]

Re: Bushido

by msr_iaidoka

Greetings all,

The list of virtues that I have always been aware of are as follows:

Jin - Benevolence
Gi - Rectitude
Chuugi - Loyalty
Makoto - Honesty
Meiyo - Honor
Rei - Respect
Yuu - Valor

I am rather certain that there are no more than 7 virtues, mostly because
the 7 pleats in the traditional hakama are meant to represent these virtues.
I hope that this has helped in some way.


Peace,

Matt Williams

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#2047 [2003-08-14 12:31:37]

Re: Bushido

by miburo_saitoh

The Book of Five Rings either states the most important codes of the
Way or gives what Musashi thinks as the true codes a warrior should
follow, either way it's a good insight into what the codes are.

Speaking of which, I have a doubt on whether the word "bushido" was
used prior to the 17th century or not, anyone here knows?

The Wolf of Mibu

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> Hi
> There isnt an actual written code but it varys depending on the
source as to what is in it, but its main points are loyalty to
> ones lord above everything else even ones own family. And you must
be ready to die on a moments notice. there are also
> many sources that speak of keeping your armour and weapons in good
repair and to practice your martial skills.
> I hope this helps.
>
> regards
> Dave Jackson
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> To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:01 PM
> Subject: [samuraihistory] Bushido
>
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of
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bushido?
> thank you.
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#2056 [2003-08-16 01:39:33]

Re: Bushido

by shogunmasami

BU -Military or combat

SHI -Knight or warrior

DO -Way or path

Bushido then literally means Military - Knight - Way or more
commonly referred to as the "Way of the warrior".

Bushido originated in its elementary from at the time of the Yamato
period (400-645) the oldest truly Japanese society- was an
unwritten, tact code of behaviour held in the minds and hearts of
the military class. In the closing years of the Heian period (794-
1185) it evolved into an expression of the morality and spirit of
the classical warrior. At this time Bushido was known by the term
Kyuba-No-Michi or way of the horse and bow. In the Kokon Chomonshu
(a study concerning the Heian period) there are mentioned "seven
Cardinal Virtues" of the very simple kind of moral consciousness
developed among those fighting men of ancient times. Briefly stated,
the seven virtues urged the warrior to shun violence, to keep his
sword sheathed, and to live in peace and amity with his fellow men.
Later during the Kamakura period (1185-1333) Yoritomo's Bakufu (the
first military government) demanded that Loyalty be the supreme
virtue especially to Yoritomo the shogun himself. During the
following century the country was constant turmoil from the civil
wars. The warrior's knights whose duty it was to fight, must have
felt keenly the uncertainty of life. For such an attitude is clearly
reflected in the way in which he regards the ethics of his
privileged class, which were now permeated by a Zen flavour. This
gave a trust in fate, a quite submission to the inevitable, that
nonchalant composure in sight of danger or calamity, that distain
for life and friendliness with death.

In the 1603 the Tokugawa Bakufu appeared, it heralded a period of
prolonged peace spanning practically to the 20th century Bushido
needed to evolve at this time to fit in this new type of warrior
knight who was no longer constantly engaged in warfare. Bushido
acquired a complex, highly idealistic from and the major doctrines
of the code were committed to writing during this period in many
famous works.

The main tents were:

LOYALTY- absolute, both to ones lord and master and in the
performance of duty.

RECTITUDE- In the word of a well-known Samurai "rectitude is the
power of deciding upon a certain course of conduct in accordance
with reason, without wavering; - to die when it's right to die, to
strike when to strike is right".

COURAGE- doing what is morally right with no thought of losing.

BENEVOLENCE- mercy, respect, love understanding, tenderness, pity.

POLITENESS- not simply to show good taste, but a sympathetic regard
for the feelings of others, and respect to social positions.

FILIAL PIETY- not only that absolute devotion to the parents but to
the family line. Others tents that feature strongly in the code are
Veracity, Sincerity, Honesty, Propriety, Valour, Righteousness,
Honour and Self-control.


The code of Bushido is represented in the seven folds of the Hakama
(5 at the front and 2 at the rear) and their meanings are:

1. YUKI Courage, Valour, Bravery.

2. JIN Humanity, Charity, Benevolence.

3. GI Justice, Righteousness, Integrity.

4. REI Etiquette, Courtesy, Civility.

5. MAKOTO Sincerity, Honesty, Reality.

6. CHUDGI Loyalty, Fidelity, Devotion.

7. MEIYO Honour, Credit, Glory, Reputation, Dignity.

*note-info from a website

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Saitoh Hajime"
wrote:
> The Book of Five Rings either states the most important codes of
the
> Way or gives what Musashi thinks as the true codes a warrior
should
> follow, either way it's a good insight into what the codes are.
>
> Speaking of which, I have a doubt on whether the word "bushido"
was
> used prior to the 17th century or not, anyone here knows?
>
> The Wolf of Mibu
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, Dave Jackson

> wrote:
> > Hi
> > There isnt an actual written code but it varys depending on the
> source as to what is in it, but its main points are loyalty to
> > ones lord above everything else even ones own family. And you
must
> be ready to die on a moments notice. there are also
> > many sources that speak of keeping your armour and weapons in
good
> repair and to practice your martial skills.
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > regards
> > Dave Jackson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Myumi
> > To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:01 PM
> > Subject: [samuraihistory] Bushido
> >
> >
> > hi! just wnat to ask if anybody here could help me about the
code
> of
> > ethics of the samurai and if there are any contents of the
> bushido?
> > thank you.
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#2714 [2003-12-07 19:05:03]

Re: Bushido

by lost90804

One reason that Bushido was pushed so hard during the Edo period is that
the previous ethos, off your superior and take his place, made the
Tokugawa nervous for some mysterious reason. Sengoku can be called the
Age of Treachery with no stretching of the imagination.

Jim

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#3396 [2004-01-27 11:53:20]

Bushido

by jono_2927

hi all i wont to know like if i could get a copy some where do you
think i could geust go to the local book store or would i have to go
to a speacil book store.

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#6510 [2005-01-11 17:42:28]

Bushido

by hawks8844

Does anyone know a website where I can print out the kanji
characters for the 7 principles of Bushido. Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin,
Makoto, and Chu. I need a copy of these characters on a sheet of
paper. If anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciatted.

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#6514 [2005-01-11 20:10:50]

Bushido

by hawks8844

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a website that would have pictures of the kanji characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto, and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the same sheet of paper. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.

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#6515 [2005-01-11 21:34:36]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by taisho_kuroyama

http://www.osakashodo.com/7_virtues_of_bushido.htm

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I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a website that would have
pictures of the kanji characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto, and Chu. My goal is to
get all seven characters on the same sheet of paper. Any help would be
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#6517 [2005-01-12 00:07:53]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by umaryu

HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


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website that would have pictures of the kanji
characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
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#6518 [2005-01-12 00:09:02]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by umaryu

Hi

as for my offer of the JPG, these look very nice. Now
I know what they look like i can still do the jpg if
needed.

paul


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To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [samuraihistory] Bushido


I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a
website that would have
pictures of the kanji characters for the seven
principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
and Chu. My goal is to
get all seven characters on the same sheet of paper.
Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thank You.

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#6519 [2005-01-12 04:24:54]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by war3271200

I heard somewhere that the Tokugawa and the Saito had an alliance. Is this true?

Richardson Paul <umaryu@...> wrote:HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


--- Kyle Ross <hawks8844@...> wrote:


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I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a
website that would have pictures of the kanji
characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
same sheet of paper. Any help would be greatly
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#6520 [2005-01-12 05:23:01]

RE: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by keecurlee

I would like to find out where I could find the old art of samurai painting
or the paintings of the samurai. I have started buying or trying to buy
Katana swords. I have looked up all I could find around here. (I have to
drive 25 miles to the library to find out that they don't carry that sort of
reading) I have started trying to buy books on the subject of the katana and
came up with The Book of Five Rings, By Miyamoto Musashi, This was a very
good book! Now Can anybody lead me to more about my swords? Like the 47
Ronin, These things I know nothing about... Thank You Kee Curlee
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HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


--- Kyle Ross <hawks8844@...> wrote:


---------------------------------

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website that would have pictures of the kanji
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and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
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#6522 [2005-01-12 21:15:08]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by hawks8844

Do you have The Last Samurai on DVD. There is a section on the special feautres disc that has the characters. It is called Bushido:The way of the Warrior.

will rogers <war3271200@...> wrote:

I heard somewhere that the Tokugawa and the Saito had an alliance. Is this true?

Richardson Paul wrote:HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


--- Kyle Ross wrote:


---------------------------------

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#6523 [2005-01-13 00:56:13]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by s_whitefalcons

Saito and Tukugawa made an aliance in order to crush the militaries of Northern rebelions once; which resulted in a full long -lasting victory.

Kyle Ross <hawks8844@...> wrote:

Do you have The Last Samurai on DVD. There is a section on the special feautres disc that has the characters. It is called Bushido:The way of the Warrior.

will rogers wrote:

I heard somewhere that the Tokugawa and the Saito had an alliance. Is this true?

Richardson Paul wrote:HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


--- Kyle Ross wrote:


---------------------------------

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a
website that would have pictures of the kanji
characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
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#6524 [2005-01-13 00:56:06]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by s_whitefalcons

Saito and Tukugawa made an aliance in order to crush the militaries of Northern rebelions once; which resulted in a full long -lasting victory.

Kyle Ross <hawks8844@...> wrote:

Do you have The Last Samurai on DVD. There is a section on the special feautres disc that has the characters. It is called Bushido:The way of the Warrior.

will rogers wrote:

I heard somewhere that the Tokugawa and the Saito had an alliance. Is this true?

Richardson Paul wrote:HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


--- Kyle Ross wrote:


---------------------------------

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a
website that would have pictures of the kanji
characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
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#6525 [2005-01-13 06:26:11]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by sgt_fury72

you can goto this website as well....http://www.dsfy.com
he has a kanji book specifically for all of the characters of bushido... and
some other ones.... he will make them for you as well...

robert




From: Kyle Ross <hawks8844@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido
>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:15:08 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>
>Do you have The Last Samurai on DVD. There is a section on the special
>feautres disc that has the characters. It is called Bushido:The way of the
>Warrior.
>
>will rogers <war3271200@...> wrote:
>
>I heard somewhere that the Tokugawa and the Saito had an alliance. Is this
>true?
>
>Richardson Paul wrote:HI
>
>I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
>them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
>brush stroke font for you in a jpg
>
>Paul
>
>
>--- Kyle Ross wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a
>website that would have pictures of the kanji
>characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
>seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
>and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
>same sheet of paper. Any help would be greatly
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#6526 [2005-01-13 15:35:47]

[samuraihistory] Saito/Tokugawa alliance.

by ltdomer98

--- soroush vahabi <s_whitefalcons@...> wrote:

> Saito and Tukugawa made an aliance in order to crush
> the militaries of Northern rebelions once; which
> resulted in a full long -lasting victory.
>

> will rogers wrote:
>
> I heard somewhere that the Tokugawa and the Saito
> had an alliance. Is this true?

First off: No problem if people want to reply to an
email and introduce a new thread--much easier than
going through the website. PLEASE change the subject
heading at the top though. This question is NOT abut
Bushido or kanji characters--help us help you, by
properly identifying it.

Secondly: You'll get better response if you clarify
what, who, and when you are talking about. To Mr.
Rogers--There were about a dozen different Saito
families at various different times, not necessarily
related. When are you talking about? If you mean
around 1561 or so, I'd assume you meant the Saito of
Mino, and were asking if they had an alliance with the
Matsudaira (later Tokugawa) of Mikawa. If you mean
later than that (for you obviously can't mean before
that), then I'm not entirely sure which Saito clan you
may mean, or what type of alliance you'd be asking
about. Post 1600 it wouldn't be an alliance--it'd be
the Tokugawa telling the Saito to do something, if
they knew what was good for them.

To Mr./Ms. Vahabi: I don't wish to be offensive, but
the utter vagueness of your response leads me to
believe it's a random thought with no back-up. A
rebellion in the north? When was this? Was it in the
Tohoku region? Who was this Saito clan which "allied"
with the Tokugawa (not the Tukugawa, mind you)?
Please, provide some hard facts---though admittedly,
your answer is only as vague as the question.

To all: While digressions are acceptable to an extent,
and we've been known to pass our fair share of jokes
and inane banter, it's been brought up by several
people that we need to get back to some serious
HISTORY discussion. This question provides and
excellent opportunity to DO just that, as long as we
can define the question better. It's certainly better
than bushido kanji--does NO ONE know how to look up
online Japanese dictionaries?

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#6536 [2005-01-15 03:53:08]

Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by prstellaaa1

Dear Mr. Youngblood:

My son has used my e-mail address as his. He did not know that he had an account. So here it is: midnightgoku@... write to him there, OK?

Thank you, Stella

Michael Youngblood <warrior02@...> wrote:
http://www.osakashodo.com/7_virtues_of_bushido.htm

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I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a website that would have
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#6548 [2005-01-18 04:16:16]

RE: [samuraihistory] Bushido

by war3271200

Does anyone know who won the battle of Kawanakajima?

Kee Curlee <threekeys@...> wrote:
I would like to find out where I could find the old art of samurai painting
or the paintings of the samurai. I have started buying or trying to buy
Katana swords. I have looked up all I could find around here. (I have to
drive 25 miles to the library to find out that they don't carry that sort of
reading) I have started trying to buy books on the subject of the katana and
came up with The Book of Five Rings, By Miyamoto Musashi, This was a very
good book! Now Can anybody lead me to more about my swords? Like the 47
Ronin, These things I know nothing about... Thank You Kee Curlee
(Irish)
-----Original Message-----
From: Richardson Paul [mailto:umaryu@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:08 AM
To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Bushido


HI

I am not sure of the characters but if someone puts
them here in an email I can convert them into a nice
brush stroke font for you in a jpg

Paul


--- Kyle Ross <hawks8844@...> wrote:


---------------------------------

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a
website that would have pictures of the kanji
characters for the seven principles of Bushido. The
seven principles are:Gi, Rei, Yu, Meiyo, Jin, Makoto,
and Chu. My goal is to get all seven characters on the
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#6550 [2005-01-18 14:59:22]

RE: [samuraihistory] Kawanakajima

by ltdomer98

--- will rogers <war3271200@...> wrote:

>
>
> Does anyone know who won the battle of Kawanakajima?

Which one? There were 6 battles at Kawanakajima--most
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#6551 [2005-01-18 17:07:00]

Re: [samuraihistory] Kawanakajima

by sengokudaimyo

Nate Ledbetter wrote:

>>Does anyone know who won the battle of Kawanakajima?
>
>
> Which one? There were 6 battles at Kawanakajima--most
> of them stalemates. The most famous, the 4th Battle,
> was technically a victory for the Takeda, though very
> costly and neither side gained any strategic
> advantage.

You beat me to it.

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#6563 [2005-01-19 04:25:58]

Re: [samuraihistory] Kawanakajima

by war3271200

Can someone tell me the names of all of Dosan Saito's children. Thanks!

Anthony Bryant <ajbryant@...> wrote:Nate Ledbetter wrote:

>>Does anyone know who won the battle of Kawanakajima?
>
>
> Which one? There were 6 battles at Kawanakajima--most
> of them stalemates. The most famous, the 4th Battle,
> was technically a victory for the Takeda, though very
> costly and neither side gained any strategic
> advantage.

You beat me to it.

Tony

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#6564 [2005-01-19 14:31:52]

Saito Dosan's kids (was: Re: [samuraihistory] Kawanakajima)

by sengokudaimyo

will rogers wrote:

>
> Can someone tell me the names of all of Dosan Saito's children. Thanks!

First:

If you are going to change the subject of the thread, please start a new one and
retitle the thread.

Second:

His adopted son was Yoshitatsu, who rebelled against him.
He also had three natural sons. They were Magoshirou (孫四郎), Nagatatsu (長龍),
and Kiheiji (喜平次). Magoshirou and Kiheiji were younger than Yoshitatsu, and
he killed them. Nagatatsu died with Nobunaga's son at Nijo in Kyoto during
Mitsuhide's Honnoji attack.
He had at least one daughter; his daughter (name unclear) married Nobunaga.

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#6565 [2005-01-19 14:45:07]

Re: Saito Dosan's kids (was: Re: [samuraihistory] Kawanakajima)

by ltdomer98

--- Anthony Bryant <ajbryant@...> wrote:

> will rogers wrote:
>
> >
> > Can someone tell me the names of all of Dosan
> Saito's children. Thanks!
>
> First:
>
> If you are going to change the subject of the
> thread, please start a new one and
> retitle the thread.

This time you beat ME to it. Please, people--change
the thread name if you change the subject. Here's why:
some people here are only interested in certain
subjects. If person A is an expert on Saito Dosan and
knows everything about him, but has no interest in
Kawanakajima, he may not even open the email asking
about Dosan's kids since he doesn't know what it's
about. Clarity is the key to getting the answers you
seek.

> Second:
>
> His adopted son was Yoshitatsu, who rebelled against
> him.
> He also had three natural sons. They were Magoshirou
> (������), Nagatatsu (����),
> and Kiheiji (������). Magoshirou and Kiheiji were
> younger than Yoshitatsu, and
> he killed them. Nagatatsu died with Nobunaga's son
> at Nijo in Kyoto during
> Mitsuhide's Honnoji attack.
> He had at least one daughter; his daughter (name
> unclear) married Nobunaga.

Wasn't his daughter's name Kitsuno? That was
Nobunaga's wife's name.

Nate



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