Namikawa Heibei Co.

Nice people, prompt service...

Dear Customers

We have renewed our website recently.
Please check the following URL.

ﾝﾝﾝﾝﾝﾝ http://www.namikawa-ltd.co.jp/english

We have added more comments on our products
and put more pictures.
We also made a shopping cart to make your shopping easier.

Some of the items are not purchasable by the order form.
We will inform the price and availability if you send us a mail of inquiry.

Thank you very much for your attention.

Sincerely yours,
Namikawa

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Mr. Helm, I am contemplating on starting an Iaido to compliment my Aikido
study. In researching for an iaito, I've found major differences in pricing
and practicality. Any thoughts? Anyone, please feel free to chime in. Or
suggest a place to get one with a budget in mind.

>From: tom helm <junkmail@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: tom helm <toryu@...>
>Subject: [samuraihistory] Namikawa Heibei Co.
>Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:35:06 -0700
>
>Nice people, prompt service...
>
>Dear Customers
>
>We have renewed our website recently.
>Please check the following URL.
>
>������ http://www.namikawa-ltd.co.jp/english
>
>We have added more comments on our products
>and put more pictures.
>We also made a shopping cart to make your shopping easier.
>
>Some of the items are not purchasable by the order form.
>We will inform the price and availability if you send us a mail of inquiry.
>
>Thank you very much for your attention.
>
>Sincerely yours,
>Namikawa
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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There are so many variables and this is such a personal decision it
is hard to know where to begin. It would be best to put your trust in
your teacher, follow his advice as to what suits your body style and
the style of swordsmanship you intend to practice.
Stay away from swords with plastic handles, anything made in
Spain or with a "chromed" hamon. I like the folks at Meirin Sangyo,
they are a bit cheaper but basically have the same things available
all over Japan.Bob Elder at East Coast Martial Arts is another good
guy, I recommend you contact him first. Noshu-Iaido and Bugei are a
bit pricey but have a selection to choose from. I have seen Gunto and
Showa-to converted to use as Iaito with good results but would
strongly urge against using anything older for martial arts practice.
The San Francisco Sword show is coming up and can't say
enough good things about it. Many of the dealers have swords
outfitted for iai and or fixer uppers ready for use. It is THE best
place to nail a bargain. Hope to see some of you all there...
Tom

Thanks for the help. When is the sword show anyway?



R.Allan Yabut

>From: tom helm <junkmail@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Namikawa Heibei Co.
>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:41:26 -0700
>
>There are so many variables and this is such a personal decision it
>is hard to know where to begin. It would be best to put your trust in
>your teacher, follow his advice as to what suits your body style and
>the style of swordsmanship you intend to practice.
> Stay away from swords with plastic handles, anything made in
>Spain or with a "chromed" hamon. I like the folks at Meirin Sangyo,
>they are a bit cheaper but basically have the same things available
>all over Japan.Bob Elder at East Coast Martial Arts is another good
>guy, I recommend you contact him first. Noshu-Iaido and Bugei are a
>bit pricey but have a selection to choose from. I have seen Gunto and
>Showa-to converted to use as Iaito with good results but would
>strongly urge against using anything older for martial arts practice.
> The San Francisco Sword show is coming up and can't say
>enough good things about it. Many of the dealers have swords
>outfitted for iai and or fixer uppers ready for use. It is THE best
>place to nail a bargain. Hope to see some of you all there...
>Tom

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It is THE best
place to nail a bargain.


IF you know exactly what you are doing, otherwise you might end up
buying something that is way way overpriced !

Tom is right, you COULD (if you are well advised) nail a bargain, but I
strongly suggest you hook up with someone who has some serious knowledge
about swords, like perhaps Tom, if you plan on buying anything there.

Otherwise stick to the big dealers, stay away from the small guys, you
will pay a bit more, but have alot more piece of mind.

regards,

- Matt

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For what it's worth, I started iaido about a year ago to complement my
aikido training. I bought the Tokujo Jidai Koshirai from e-bogu.com

Supposedly it's on sale, though it's been so for about a year now (or
more!).

Seems to be fine, though I'm anything but a sword expert. My teacher
(a USAF-WR shidoin) seems to think it's a bit light, but more than
adequate.

I'm happy with it.

-Pat

--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "R.Allan Yabut"
wrote:

> Mr. Helm, I am contemplating on starting an Iaido to compliment my

Aikido

> study. In researching for an iaito, I've found major differences in

pricing

> and practicality. Any thoughts? Anyone, please feel free to chime

in. Or

> suggest a place to get one with a budget in mind.
>
>
>
> >From: tom helm
> >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> >To: tom helm
> >Subject: [samuraihistory] Namikawa Heibei Co.
> >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:35:06 -0700
> >
> >Nice people, prompt service...
> >
> >Dear Customers
> >
> >We have renewed our website recently.
> >Please check the following URL.
> >
> >ﾝﾝﾝﾝﾝﾝ http://www.namikawa-ltd.co.jp/english
> >
> >We have added more comments on our products
> >and put more pictures.
> >We also made a shopping cart to make your shopping easier.
> >
> >Some of the items are not purchasable by the order form.
> >We will inform the price and availability if you send us a mail of

inquiry.

> >
> >Thank you very much for your attention.
> >
> >Sincerely yours,
> >Namikawa
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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>Thanks for the help.Ş When is the sword show anyway?
>
>R.Allan Yabut
>

Allan-
Sorry should have linked it... http://www.ncjsc.org

Hope you can join us.
-t

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Remember Matt he was asking about Iaito, NOT Bijutsu Token for study
and appreciation. A very different set of criteria when looking to
buy those...
-t

Thanks for all your advice. I'll keep you posted on what I come up with.



-Rod

>From: "Patrick" <pbolger@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [samuraihistory] Re: Namikawa Heibei Co.
>Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:37:59 -0000
>
>For what it's worth, I started iaido about a year ago to complement my
>aikido training. I bought the Tokujo Jidai Koshirai from e-bogu.com
>
>Supposedly it's on sale, though it's been so for about a year now (or
>more!).
>
>Seems to be fine, though I'm anything but a sword expert. My teacher
>(a USAF-WR shidoin) seems to think it's a bit light, but more than
>adequate.
>
>I'm happy with it.
>
>-Pat
>
>--- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "R.Allan Yabut"
>wrote:
> > Mr. Helm, I am contemplating on starting an Iaido to compliment my
>Aikido
> > study. In researching for an iaito, I've found major differences in
>pricing
> > and practicality. Any thoughts? Anyone, please feel free to chime
>in. Or
> > suggest a place to get one with a budget in mind.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: tom helm
> > >Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: tom helm
> > >Subject: [samuraihistory] Namikawa Heibei Co.
> > >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:35:06 -0700
> > >
> > >Nice people, prompt service...
> > >
> > >Dear Customers
> > >
> > >We have renewed our website recently.
> > >Please check the following URL.
> > >
> > >������ http://www.namikawa-ltd.co.jp/english
> > >
> > >We have added more comments on our products
> > >and put more pictures.
> > >We also made a shopping cart to make your shopping easier.
> > >
> > >Some of the items are not purchasable by the order form.
> > >We will inform the price and availability if you send us a mail of
>inquiry.
> > >
> > >Thank you very much for your attention.
> > >
> > >Sincerely yours,
> > >Namikawa
> > >
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> > >
> >
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Tom Agreed, but the argument remains the same, he should still find
someone who knows his or her stuff about in this case Iaito. I could
imagine that buying one that had something wrong with it could be
potentially dangerous, never mind overpriced.

Anyway out of interest, what are the criteria for a good Iaito ? Being a
"sword studier", not a "sword user" I find this quite fascinating.

- Matt

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Remember Matt he was asking about Iaito, NOT Bijutsu Token for study
and appreciation. A very different set of criteria when looking to
buy those...
-t


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Dear Mr. Yabut:
I have been involved with the martial arts for over twenty years.
The last six or so I have studied Iaido as a complement to Karate. I
think the study of Iaido is very important to the deeper understanding of
the martial arts. The selection of the proper Iaito is important. Not
quite so important as the selection of Shinken for tamashigiri, but
nearly so. As Mr. Helm suggested Bob Elder is a great source. He is a go
dan in Toyama Ryu Batto Jutsu. Has his own Dojo. Holds the only Batto Tai
Kai outside Japan and owns a martial arts store. We have been friends for
many years and will treat you right. He has the selection and pricing
with the knowledge to help you very much. He can be reaced at
www.ecmas.com or email him at www.ecmas@....
Hope this is some help to you.
Tom Armour

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Well Matt I didn't list them because there are so many factors. A
great deal depends on the person, his style of Iai and his taste.
Ideally for your first sword you want to find a "complete"
package, sword, handle and saya.Not always possible.
Flaws can pretty much be ignored unless you do Tameshi-giri
then you'll want to steer clear of hagire.
The proper length, curve and balance are very subjective and
really cannot be set down in easily digested bytes...
-t

Thank you for your insight Mr. Armour. It is appreciated.

>From: Tommy Armour <yoroi@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Namikawa Heibei Co.
>Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:18:17 -0400
>
>Dear Mr. Yabut:
> I have been involved with the martial arts for over twenty years.
>The last six or so I have studied Iaido as a complement to Karate. I
>think the study of Iaido is very important to the deeper understanding of
> the martial arts. The selection of the proper Iaito is important. Not
>quite so important as the selection of Shinken for tamashigiri, but
>nearly so. As Mr. Helm suggested Bob Elder is a great source. He is a go
>dan in Toyama Ryu Batto Jutsu. Has his own Dojo. Holds the only Batto Tai
>Kai outside Japan and owns a martial arts store. We have been friends for
>many years and will treat you right. He has the selection and pricing
>with the knowledge to help you very much. He can be reaced at
>www.ecmas.com or email him at www.ecmas@....
>Hope this is some help to you.
>Tom Armour
>
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