> Looking at the connection between the Tokugawa and the Maeda clans,I
> find that a daughter of Tokugawa Hidetada (Ne- or Nene- hime [1599-his
> 1622]) married Maeda Toshitsune [1593-1658]. does anyone know if
> sons Mitsumasa, Toshitsugi, and Toshiharu were sons of Hidetada's
> daughter?
>
> Second question - Hidetada's daughter Senhime married Honda
> Tadatoshi, a nephew of Honda Tadamasa. Does anyone know who his
> father was (which brother of Honda Tadamasa)?
>
>
> Thanks for any assistance!
> Isn't she Tama-hime?Ne might be her another name ,but I have neverclans,
> heard of.All of the three sons you reffer to are hers.But the name
> Mitsmasa should be Mitsutaka.And Toshitsugi might be Toshitsugu.
>
> Senhime's spouse is Honda Tadatoki.He is the son of Tadamasa,not
> nephew.Tadamasa is the son of Tadakatsu.
>
> hope this helps
>
> Shinsei
>
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kitsuno"
>wrote:
> > Looking at the connection between the Tokugawa and the Maeda
> I[1599-
> > find that a daughter of Tokugawa Hidetada (Ne- or Nene- hime
> > 1622]) married Maeda Toshitsune [1593-1658]. does anyone know if
> his
> > sons Mitsumasa, Toshitsugi, and Toshiharu were sons of Hidetada's
> > daughter?
> >
> > Second question - Hidetada's daughter Senhime married Honda
> > Tadatoshi, a nephew of Honda Tadamasa. Does anyone know who his
> > father was (which brother of Honda Tadamasa)?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance!
> The Japanese book I'm looking at has her name in Kanji as "Ko"see
> followed by the 'repeat the previous' kanji, and the furigana
> says "ne-" I'll try to put the Japanese here in SHIFT-JIS: qXP
> It says she married Maeda Toshitsune: 利常 AKA Toshimitsu: 利光
> It has her as the second daughter of Hidetada. I'll post this to
> if the Kanji posts along with it, and then take a look at what Ihave
> for Senhime again. And I'm starting to realize that A.L. Sadler isnever
> not the best author to look to for correct English romaji spellings
> of Japanese names...
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Shinsei"
>wrote:
> > Isn't she Tama-hime?Ne might be her another name ,but I have
> > heard of.All of the three sons you reffer to are hers.But thename
> > Mitsmasa should be Mitsutaka.And Toshitsugi might be Toshitsugu.if
> >
> > Senhime's spouse is Honda Tadatoki.He is the son of Tadamasa,not
> > nephew.Tadamasa is the son of Tadakatsu.
> >
> > hope this helps
> >
> > Shinsei
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kitsuno"
> >wrote:
> > > Looking at the connection between the Tokugawa and the Maeda
> clans,
> > I
> > > find that a daughter of Tokugawa Hidetada (Ne- or Nene- hime
> [1599-
> > > 1622]) married Maeda Toshitsune [1593-1658]. does anyone know
> > hisHidetada's
> > > sons Mitsumasa, Toshitsugi, and Toshiharu were sons of
> > > daughter?his
> > >
> > > Second question - Hidetada's daughter Senhime married Honda
> > > Tadatoshi, a nephew of Honda Tadamasa. Does anyone know who
> > > father was (which brother of Honda Tadamasa)?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for any assistance!
> Isn't she Tama-hime?Ne might be her another name ,but I have neverclans,
> heard of.All of the three sons you reffer to are hers.But the name
> Mitsmasa should be Mitsutaka.And Toshitsugi might be Toshitsugu.
>
> Senhime's spouse is Honda Tadatoki.He is the son of Tadamasa,not
> nephew.Tadamasa is the son of Tadakatsu.
>
> hope this helps
>
> Shinsei
>
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kitsuno"
>wrote:
> > Looking at the connection between the Tokugawa and the Maeda
> I[1599-
> > find that a daughter of Tokugawa Hidetada (Ne- or Nene- hime
> > 1622]) married Maeda Toshitsune [1593-1658]. does anyone know if
> his
> > sons Mitsumasa, Toshitsugi, and Toshiharu were sons of Hidetada's
> > daughter?
> >
> > Second question - Hidetada's daughter Senhime married Honda
> > Tadatoshi, a nephew of Honda Tadamasa. Does anyone know who his
> > father was (which brother of Honda Tadamasa)?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance!
> Got it, I misread 'legitimate child / hier'(Chakushi)stupid
> as 'nephew'(Oi) - not sure how I did that. But this may be a
> question, but how did Senhime marry both Tadatoki and Hideyori whenTadatoshi?
> they both died in 1615? (also, was Tadatoki also known as
> A.L. Sadler, in his biography of Ieyasu has it as Tadatoshi. Notnever
> that I trust his spelling all that much...)
>
>
> --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Shinsei"
>wrote:
> > Isn't she Tama-hime?Ne might be her another name ,but I have
> > heard of.All of the three sons you reffer to are hers.But thename
> > Mitsmasa should be Mitsutaka.And Toshitsugi might be Toshitsugu.if
> >
> > Senhime's spouse is Honda Tadatoki.He is the son of Tadamasa,not
> > nephew.Tadamasa is the son of Tadakatsu.
> >
> > hope this helps
> >
> > Shinsei
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kitsuno"
> >wrote:
> > > Looking at the connection between the Tokugawa and the Maeda
> clans,
> > I
> > > find that a daughter of Tokugawa Hidetada (Ne- or Nene- hime
> [1599-
> > > 1622]) married Maeda Toshitsune [1593-1658]. does anyone know
> > hisHidetada's
> > > sons Mitsumasa, Toshitsugi, and Toshiharu were sons of
> > > daughter?his
> > >
> > > Second question - Hidetada's daughter Senhime married Honda
> > > Tadatoshi, a nephew of Honda Tadamasa. Does anyone know who
> > > father was (which brother of Honda Tadamasa)?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for any assistance!