oda nobunaga

whut is a good book on oda nobunaga? in english and in depth


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One of the best sources of information on Oda Nobunaga in my opinion is "Hideyoshi" by Mary Berry.

>whut is a good book on oda nobunaga? in english and in depth

oda nobunaga unifier of japan or first dictator of japan? steve
turnbulls book seem to be divided on this anyone got a view

kentguy212002 wrote:

> oda nobunaga unifier of japan or first dictator of japan? steve
> turnbulls book seem to be divided on this anyone got a view

Frankly, he was neither. He wasn't a total unifier, and he was hardly the first
"dictator" -- whatever that may mean in feudal Japanese terms.


Tony

Hey
My personal humble opinion is that Oda was neither. Oda was a warlord
that started the drive to unify Japan, beginning at Okehazama. I believe he
did receive the sanction of Emperor Ogimachi (not that it meant anything in
terms of real power other than the emperor's backing), but no, he was neither a
dictator or the sole unifier of Japan. Any thoughts or corrections, ne1? :-D
Take care, y'all. :-D

L8r
Tim


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I tend to agree, Nobunaga was neither the unifier, or the first 'dictator', he wasn't even shogun. In terms of the question itself, surely a leader (anywhere) could be both dictator and unifier, they are not mutually exclusive terms.
Sprouting from the term 'unifier' though I have a question? When was Japan unified? Considering, Hokkaiko was really only geographically part of Japan until the 18th and 19th Centuries, despite incursions and expeditions into the north dating back to the Asuka-jidai, and before; while the Nansei (SW) Islands (Okinawa, etc) were not part of Japan until the first decades of the Edo-jidai.

M.Lorimer

"Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...> wrote:
kentguy212002 wrote:

> oda nobunaga unifier of japan or first dictator of japan? steve
> turnbulls book seem to be divided on this anyone got a view

Frankly, he was neither. He wasn't a total unifier, and he was hardly the first
"dictator" -- whatever that may mean in feudal Japanese terms.


Tony





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Well,he was nearly an unifier.He didn't succeed all because he was killed by Akechi Mitsuhide
at Hononji Temple in Kyoto.Too bad.He could have been a good leader.But his work was continued in a small part by Hideyoshi but Hideyoshi did almost nothing.He tried to conquerKorea but he was forced out because the Koreanswere helped by the Chinese

Edy

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Hey
My personal humble opinion is that Oda was neither. Oda was a warlord
that started the drive to unify Japan, beginning at Okehazama. I believe he
did receive the sanction of Emperor Ogimachi (not that it meant anything in
terms of real power other than the emperor's backing), but no, he was neither a
dictator or the sole unifier of Japan. Any thoughts or corrections, ne1? :-D
Take care, y'all. :-D

L8r
Tim


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oda nobunaga caused attrocities to his own people on a par with any
modern day dictator, the ninja of iga and the monks of ikko in osaka
where just a few of his victims. There is no doubt he was a great
tactical mind but he wanted sole control of japan, and as we all no
the emporer was not where the power laay in japan. Ne way a good book
to read for modern day workplace is the art of war by sun tzu, its
chinese but many japanese buisness recomend it to its employees