Perennial OOB Question

Impossible question, I know, but . . .

Can anyone give me a steer on Order of Battle or even numbers for the
battles between Matsudaira/Imagawa/Oda around the 1550s?

I'm trying to figure out how many men the Matsudaira could field in
the days of Hirotada and Ieyasu's youth against the Oda, both in
battle and in the (I assume) 'raiding' that might have taken place on
the borders of Mikawa and Owari.

I'd guess at a couple of thousand for the Matsudaira? Would this
include contingents from Honda and Sakai? And what were their
names? (No, I'm kidding).

Any help appreciated,

Thomas

Rekishi gunzo series # 11, Tokugawa Ieyasu has some info about the early
battles on. Mostly its a brief history of the Matsudaira clan, Ieyasu's
early battles before Okehazama, and the condition Mikawa Bushi. Some maps
and charts but no specific order of battle. Also its all in Japanese.

> Also its all in Japanese.

Ah, there's the rub!

Thomas

Reikishi gunzo series # 11, that sounds like what I'm
interested in. Matsudaira was the name Tokugawa Ieyasu
had been known by in his youth, I would like know more
than what I alread know


--- William letham <mickey.letham@...> wrote:

> Rekishi gunzo series # 11, Tokugawa Ieyasu has some
> info about the early
> battles on. Mostly its a brief history of the
> Matsudaira clan, Ieyasu's
> early battles before Okehazama, and the condition
> Mikawa Bushi. Some maps
> and charts but no specific order of battle. Also its
> all in Japanese.
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This and other titles in this series are available in bookstores all over
Japan. sounds like an ad doesn't it.

No matter how hard you rub ain't no genie gonna pop out and give this kind
of detailed info on Japanese history in English.

Yes, I know it's in Japanese. I'm a nut when it come
to things in Japanese, that's how crazy I am.


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>
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> Thomas
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It sounds like something I would check out myself, I
actually would like to travel to Japan to learn more
about their history and their language.


--- William letham <mickey.letham@...> wrote:

> This and other titles in this series are available
> in bookstores all over
> Japan. sounds like an ad doesn't it.
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Try getting your information from two history book
written by people who study Japanese history for a
living, it is not that easy no matter how many times
you read the books.


--- William letham <mickey.letham@...> wrote:

> No matter how hard you rub ain't no genie gonna pop
> out and give this kind
> of detailed info on Japanese history in English.
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If someone would be kind enough to give me a stipend and free health
insurance, I could be that Genie! ;)

--- In samuraihistory@y..., "William letham"
wrote:

> No matter how hard you rub ain't no genie gonna pop out and give

this kind

> of detailed info on Japanese history in English.