Eta hinin executioners

Can anyone help? I have a Wak which is very heavy. It has been put
in some made up carved wooden mounts for the tourist market in about
1900. I am about to clean the blade and add lemon juice but I don't
think a hamon will be visible as its condition is quite bad. It has
no signiture and might be from the 19th/18th century as it's blade is
broader than a Koto blade. Did the Eta Hinin executioners use extra
heavy Waks for the job? I am puzzled as this Wak seems very heavy
but doesn't seem to give any clues as to its origin or period, not to
a novice like myself anyway. Can anyone help? There is only on hole
in the tang and there are file marks going diagonaly across the tang
from the back of the tang towards the blade edge (suji-chigai). The
blade lenght is 16 and a half inches (21 and a quater from Kisaki to
the Kata-yamagata). Shinogi-zukuri. No grain is visible. Anyone
help please!
Regards,
Chris

if you have a digital camera or a camera and a scanner you could post some
pics of the wakizashi on the forum at Bugei.com thay mite beable to help
you.

good luck! I realy hope you find its origin :)

Marius A Bacher

>From: "chrissteel25" <chrissteel25@...>
>Reply-To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>To: samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [samuraihistory] Eta hinin executioners
>Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:43:58 -0000
>
>Can anyone help? I have a Wak which is very heavy. It has been put
>in some made up carved wooden mounts for the tourist market in about
>1900. I am about to clean the blade and add lemon juice but I don't
>think a hamon will be visible as its condition is quite bad. It has
>no signiture and might be from the 19th/18th century as it's blade is
>broader than a Koto blade. Did the Eta Hinin executioners use extra
>heavy Waks for the job? I am puzzled as this Wak seems very heavy
>but doesn't seem to give any clues as to its origin or period, not to
>a novice like myself anyway. Can anyone help? There is only on hole
>in the tang and there are file marks going diagonaly across the tang
>from the back of the tang towards the blade edge (suji-chigai). The
>blade lenght is 16 and a half inches (21 and a quater from Kisaki to
>the Kata-yamagata). Shinogi-zukuri. No grain is visible. Anyone
>help please!
>Regards,
>Chris
>
>

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CHRIS-
I suggest that lemon juice is not a good idea if this is a true nihonto.
If you had pictures I would be happy to have a look or you could post them
at a webhosting site and send the link to: nihonto@yahoogroups.com

Where there are many who could give you help. I know of no "executioner's"
weapons but some odd forms were produced over the years. Hard to say from
your description.

Tom

chrissteel25 wrote:

> Can anyone help? I have a Wak which is very heavy. It has been put
> in some made up carved wooden mounts for the tourist market in about
> 1900. I am about to clean the blade and add lemon juice but I don't
> think a hamon will be visible as its condition is quite bad. It has
> no signiture and might be from the 19th/18th century as it's blade is
> broader than a Koto blade. Did the Eta Hinin executioners use extra
> heavy Waks for the job? I am puzzled as this Wak seems very heavy
> but doesn't seem to give any clues as to its origin or period, not to
> a novice like myself anyway. Can anyone help? There is only on hole
> in the tang and there are file marks going diagonaly across the tang
> from the back of the tang towards the blade edge (suji-chigai). The
> blade lenght is 16 and a half inches (21 and a quater from Kisaki to
> the Kata-yamagata). Shinogi-zukuri. No grain is visible. Anyone
> help please!
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
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