Believe me, the true facts about the Ako Roshi is a hugely hot topic. There are some revisionist theories afloat about how Lord Kira was an innocent victim, Lord Asano was a drunken womanizer, and the Ako ronin were a bunch of law-breakers. Some of these revisionist theories can be found in Beatrice Bodart-Bailey's book about Tsuneyoshi (I believe that the title is "The Dog Shogun"). This is a largely sympathetic biography of this shogun and it includes a largely unsympathetic chapter on the Ako ronin.
There are some other documents that contradict the "Kira-was-an-innocent-victim" line in Sato's book, "Legend of the Samurai."
What actually happened is shrouded in legend and in academic arguments. I tend to believe that the truth lay somewhere between the films and the revisionist theories.
Nina
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Sheridan <
ldsheridan@...>
To:
samuraihistory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: [samuraihistory] Ako Roshi
I assume the numbers are the ages of the individuals. A couple of
teenagers here, and some on their early 20s. Could I get some perspective
on how some of the families might have been affected losing such young
people. Nor does there appear to be many multiple members of the same
family-name. I regret to say my total exposure has been through the films,
and I lack pretty much any insight on how this played out within the
families/clan subsequently.
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Robert McArthur <rmcarthur@...> wrote:
>
>
> Sometime ago there was a discussion regarding the names of the Forty Seven
> Samurai. I have listed the names for all forty seven below.
>
> The unbracketed names were derived from Utagawa Kuniyoshi's series of
> prints, showing each of the forty seven, titled Seichu Gishi Den (The
> Faithful Samurai). Kuniyoshi's prints are derirved from the much earlier
> Kabuki drama Kanadehon Chushingura (Treasury of Loyal Retainers). In both
> works the names are disguised. The actual names are bracketed in the list.
> These are derived from Yoshitoshi Tsukioka's similar print series titled
> Seichu Gishi Meimei Gaden (Historical Biographies of the Loyal Retainers).
> These names in turn have been checked against Chushingura and the Floating
> World: The Representation of Kanadehon in Ukiyoe Prints, by David Bell.
> Where there are more than two actual names, the additional name is usually
> the result of either orthographic differences or alternate character
> readings.
>
> 1. Oboshi Yuranoske Yoshio [Oishi Kuranoskue Yoshio] 45
> 2. Oboshi Rikiya Yoshikane [Oishi Kuronosuke Chikara] 16 Oishi's son and
> the
> youngest of the 47
> 3. Yato Yomoshichi Norikane [Yazu Uemonshichi] or [Yata Uemon] 17
> 4. Fuwa Katsuemon Masatane [Fuwa Kazuemon] 35
> 5. Shikamatsu Kanroku Yukishige [Chikamatsu Kanroku] 24
> 6. Yoshida Sadaemon Kanesada [Yoshida Sukemon] or [Yoshida Sawaemon] 27 or
> 29
> 7. Sakagaki Genzo Masakata [Akagaki Genzo] 25
> 8. Yukukawa Samei Munenori [Yokogawa Kampei] or [Segawa Kampei] 37
> 9. Onodera Junai Hidetomo [Onodera Junai] 61
> 10. Isaoi Juroemon Masahisa [Isogai Jurozaemon Masahisa] 25
> 11. Okano Gin-emon Kanehide [Okano Kinemon] or [Okano Gengo] 31 or 35
> 12. Senzaki Yagoro Noriyasu [Kanzaki Yogoro] 38 or 39
> 13. Yazama Jujiro Moto-oki [Hazama Jujiro] 25
> 14. Otaka Gengo Tadao [Otaka Gengo] or [Odaka Gengo] 32 or 35
> 15. Kataoka Dengoemon Takafusa [Kataoka Gengoemon] 37
> 16. Nakamura Kansuke Tadatoki [Nakamura Kansuke] 48
> 17. Okashima Yasoemon Tsunetatsu [Okajima Yasuemon] 40
> 18. Teraoka Hei-emon Nobuyuki [Terasaka Kichiemon] 43
> 19. Uramatsu Handayu Takano [Muramatsu Sandayu] 27
> 20. Tokuda Sadaemon Yukitaka [Okuda Sadaemon] or [Koda (Umita) Matanojo] 25
> 21. Oribe Yahei Kanamaru [Horibe Yahei] 78, the oldest of the 47
> 22. Kiura Okaemon Sadayuki [Kimura Okaemon] 25
> 23. Katsuta Shinemon Taketaka [Katsuta Shinzaemon] or [Kazuda Shinzaemon]
> 25
> 24. Takebayashi Sadashichi Takashige [Takabayashi Tadashichi] 37
> 25. Kurahashi Zensuke Takeyuki [Kurahashi Densuke] 24
> 26. Aihara Esue Munefusa [Maebara Isuke] 31 or 51
> 27. Tominori Suke-emon Masakata [Tominori Sukeemon] 41
> 28. Ushioda Masanojo Takanori [Shiota Matanojo] or [Sugatami (Sugaya)
> Hanojo] 35 or 37
> 29. Hayami Sozaemon Mitsutaka [Hayami Tozaemon] 40
> 30. Onodera Toemon Hidetome [Onodera Koemon] 28
> 31. Chiba Saburohei Mitsutada [Samba Saburobei] or [Semba Saburobe] 45
> 32. Oboshi Seizaemon Nobukiyo [Oishi Senzaemon] or [Oishi Sozaemon] 27, a
> cousin (?) of Oishi Kuranosuke
> 33. Sugenoya Sannojo Masatoshi [Sugaya Hannojo] 40 or 44
> 34. Oribe Yasubei Taketsune [Horibe Yasubei] 34, the son of Horibe Yahei
> 35. Hayano Wasuke Tsunenari [Kayano Wasuke Tsunenari] or [Chino (Kayano)
> Uesuke] 27 or 37
> 36. Yata Goroemon Suketake [Yata Goroemon] or [Yada Gorozaemon] 19 or 28
> 37. Tokuda Magodayu Shigemori [Okuda Magodayu] or [Sanada Magadayu] 55 or
> 57
> 38. Yazama Shinroku Mitsukaze [Hazama Shinroku] 21
> 39. Mase Magoshiro Masatatsu [Manase Magoro] or [Mase Magakuro] 23
> 40. Ryuden, Uramatsu Kihei Hidenao a priest and/or physician [Muramatsu
> Kihei] or [Moramatsu Kihei] 60 or 65
> 41. Yazama Kihei Mitsunobu [Hazama Kihei] 69
> 42. Mase Chudayu Masa-aki [Manase Kyudayu] or [Masa Kudayu] 62 or 63
> 43. Sumino Juheiji Tsugufusa [Sugina Juheiji] or [Sugino Juheiji] 28
> 44. Hara Goemon Mototoki [Hara Soemon] or [Hara Sozaemon] 56
> 45. Kaida Yadaemon Tomonobu [Kaiga Yazaemon] or [Kaiga Yasuemon] 54
> 46. Miura Jiroemon Kanetsune [Mitsumura Jiroemon] or [Mimura Jiroemon] 36
> 47. Yoshia Chuzaemon Kanesuke [Yoshida Chuzaemon] 63
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]