saitou in disguise

OMG! That IS him, I just know it!

And was anyone as intrigued as me by the glimpse of broad half naked
chest inside that kimono????

The hentai thoughts are not my fault I've just been reading about the
lecherous Maeda Toshiie his 12 yr old wife (when he was 22), 16 kids
and the concubine who was 33 yrs his junior (!)

--
Barbara Sheridan
http://www.barbarasheridan.net

Why would an overworked animator go through the trouble of designing
an "extra" with 2 swords. AND show the EXACT same guy in 2 scenes
(this "mystery" guy is in 2 -separate- scenes right?)...they wouldn't
go through that much trouble for nothing remember it takes hundreds of
cells to make an animated film and lots of work (even with the aid of
computers)...it could be an inside joke for all we know.

I know that sarcastic smirk anywhere.

It's Saitou with a wig...which kind of worries me and adds the
possibility of Saitou with Kamatari tendencies. 0_0 What is more
scary Saitou with a wig or SAitou coloring his hair...green for that
matter LOL

In the manga...check maigo-chan's translation Saitou specifically
criticizes Kenshin for getting himself injured AND CAUSE SOMEONE TO BE
PERMANENTLY INJURED (the kid Yutaro)...take that Kenshin...I remember
this distinctly because this was an example of how a couple of words,
IMPORTANT words were left out of the anime (hisssss). I read this in
the Thai translation of the manga and was surprised Nobuhiro would
"turn on" his hero.

And I used this point to discuss with my sister how Saitou is
protective of kids (Eiji + Misao)...although Miss B reinterprets the
Misao part :P

I will probably duplicate this thread on Shinsengumimb.com
so tired...just finished fanart...fingers covered with blue marker and
I posted a long message explaining why SAitou didn't anticipate
Shishio's metal headband.

And note, his eyes aren't always amber...in one flashback scene his
eyes are blue...or did S.H. go through the trouble of wearing contacs?
So it doesn't matter if his eyecolor is off.

Stupid tight black T-shirt has been obscuring our view the entire
time!!!...note bandages around the lower chest...just like Sano...at
this point in the story KEnshin already met Sano right? ... if this is
S.H. and I THINK SO then Saitou would have already seen Sano with
Kenshin...Saitou with a green wig AND sporting Sano-like bandages 0_0

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Sheridan wrote:
> And was anyone as intrigued as me by the glimpse of broad half naked
> chest inside that kimono????

okay, further speculation...this mystery guy uses 2 swords.
I just read an article on left handed people and how many gain a high
level of ambidexterity depending on the social environment they lived
in...now I will always insist that hist. Saitou was a natural lefty
and acquired "social" ambidexterity...in the case of handing things to
people/writing in front of other (you usually hand things to people
with both hands or right hand at least in Japanese culture - I
heard)...and many martial artists, e.g. bare-handed techniques will
purposefully try to gain ambidexterity helpful in
grappling/throws/pins etc...so it is possible Saitou could use 2
swords very well.

Tiffany <tnamwong@...> wrote:

>>I will probably duplicate this thread on Shinsengumimb.com

so tired...just finished fanart...fingers covered with blue marker and I posted a long message explaining why SAitou didn't anticipate Shishio's metal headband.<<

Like I said, if you'll give me a couple of days I'll get the screenshots up on my site and post the direct URL in response to MissB's original post about the guy. No need to start a new thread.

>>I know that sarcastic smirk anywhere.<<

And those eyes!!! Even the way his arms are folded in the outdoor shot.

>>It's Saitou with a wig...which kind of worries me and adds the

possibility of Saitou with Kamatari tendencies. 0_0 <<

Can't help thinking of Yamazaki in PMK... :-D Personally, I just can't see RK Saitou being believable as a woman. He's gorgeous as a man, but he'd make one big, ugly woman (heh... like the Big Bad Wolf trying to pass as a granny?). Still, there is that academy award winning act he pulled off with Itou's group.

phil (who's just gone through the fight between Saitou & Sano outside Katsu's house frame by frame and is amazed yet again at how many faces Saitou shows!)


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Barbara Sheridan <bsher213@...> wrote:

>>And was anyone as intrigued as me by the glimpse of broad half naked chest inside that kimono???? <<

Nah, Barb, I think it's just you. :-D (Who are you kidding? I notice *EVERYTHING* about RK Saitou... to distraction!)

phil



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Barbara Sheridan <bsher213@...> wrote:

>>And was anyone as intrigued as me by the glimpse of broad half naked chest inside that kimono???? <<

Nah, Barb, I think it's just you. :-D (Who are you kidding? I notice *EVERYTHING* about RK Saitou... to distraction!)

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Tiffany <tnamwong@...> wrote:

>>!!!...note bandages around the lower chest...just like Sano...at this point in the story KEnshin already met Sano right? ... if this is S.H. and I THINK SO then Saitou would have already seen Sano with Kenshin... <<

Even if Saitou hadn't seen Sano yet, the wrappings seem to be common attire for the times. I see them in a lot of movies and on other characters in anime. Not sure if it was more common to street types, like Sano. (Good practice for when he gets with Sano, ne? He'll know how to get Sano in and out of them... though I have to admit, I much prefer it when he takes them off with his katana... ;-P)

phil (who still likes the stupid, tight, black t-shirt... he wears it *so* well! Oh, and I have a screencap of the blue eye, too, which Black Faery thought strange as well)


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I would speculate no further than it was just part of his diguise. By the same token, I wouldn't be surprised if he was quite handy with two swords (though not as suave as Aoshi --- TWO kodachi in ONE sheath??? one of my favorite quotes from RK). Do we really have any idea just how many different styles Saitou was schooled in? And given how slick RK Saitou is, I'd expect him to be ambidextrous (he certainly was against Sano in their little fist fight... at least twice it was a right upper-cut that knocked Sano silly.)

phil

Tiffany <tnamwong@...> wrote:
okay, further speculation...this mystery guy uses 2 swords.
I just read an article on left handed people and how many gain a high
level of ambidexterity depending on the social environment they lived
in...now I will always insist that hist. Saitou was a natural lefty
and acquired "social" ambidexterity...in the case of handing things to
people/writing in front of other (you usually hand things to people
with both hands or right hand at least in Japanese culture - I
heard)...and many martial artists, e.g. bare-handed techniques will
purposefully try to gain ambidexterity helpful in
grappling/throws/pins etc...so it is possible Saitou could use 2
swords very well.



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spiritus saitou wrote:

>phil (who still likes the stupid, tight, black t-shirt... he wears it *so* well! Oh, and I have a screencap of the blue eye, too, which Black Faery thought strange as well)>>
>
>

Did ya notice that even in PMK Saitou wears the black t-shirt or a
variation of it it's sort of a mesh type thing as I recall.......

--
Barbara Sheridan
http://www.barbarasheridan.net

Barbara, it is chainmail...see Nakajima NObori portrait...he is
wearing chainmail right under his clothes...read Tenma house incident
(my best effort in understanding the fish)
http://p076.ezboard.com/fshinsengumiheadquartersfrm17.showMessage?topicID=22.topic

Remember in Gohatto when Okita tells Hijikata (runs into the room late
at night) that the old dude and everyone's object of desire went to
that inn alone...Okita ran into the room wearing mesh/armor thing
too...you can see it on his arms.

Other portraits by Nakajima show other Shinsengumi wearing chainmail
(if they were dressed traditionally---some wore modern clothing).

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Sheridan wrote:
> Did ya notice that even in PMK Saitou wears the black t-shirt or a
> variation of it it's sort of a mesh type thing as I recall.......
>
> --
> Barbara Sheridan
> http://www.barbarasheridan.net

>Did ya notice that even in PMK Saitou wears the black t-shirt or a
>variation of it it's sort of a mesh type thing as I recall.......

Kusari katabira was the name, I think-- chain-mail vests. Kenshin mentions
it in the "Tsuiokuhen" OAV, when he's fighting those guys in the alley near
Ikedaya.

--M.

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