Re: One more reference

> I've got the following references, but I haven't

read any of them from cover to
cover. (I won't finish reading them for a long time;
as I've mentioned before,
I'm not proficient in the Japanese language either.)

~Seven


First of all, many thanks for listing the references.

One that I didn't see in your list (perhaps I missed
it?) and I figure it as being VERY important, is

Yamamura, R. Shinsengumi Shougenroku. PHP.

It is a collection of testimonials given by people who
actually LIVED the Bakumatsu and who witnessed
firsthand the doings and wrongdoings of the
Shinsengumi. Obviously, all the testimonials *are*
biased, but it is a priceless collection of how people
viewed Shinsengumi at the time.

Serizawa Kamo

"I am the bone of my sword.
Steel is my body,and fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand blades.
Unknown to Death.
Nor known to Life.
Have withstood pain to create many weapons.
Yet, those hands will never hold anyting.
So as I pray, unlimited blade works."

(Fate/Stay Night)

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"Shinsengumi Shougenroku" is still on my "to-buy" list. I was going to buy it a few months
ago but I decided to get "Shinsengumi Kenkyaku-Den" (also by Yamamura) instead.

~Seven

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, Serizawa Kamo wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've got the following references, but I haven't
> read any of them from cover to
> cover. (I won't finish reading them for a long time;
> as I've mentioned before,
> I'm not proficient in the Japanese language either.)
>
> ~Seven
>
>
> First of all, many thanks for listing the references.
>
> One that I didn't see in your list (perhaps I missed
> it?) and I figure it as being VERY important, is
>
> Yamamura, R. Shinsengumi Shougenroku. PHP.
>
> It is a collection of testimonials given by people who
> actually LIVED the Bakumatsu and who witnessed
> firsthand the doings and wrongdoings of the
> Shinsengumi. Obviously, all the testimonials *are*
> biased, but it is a priceless collection of how people
> viewed Shinsengumi at the time.
>
> Serizawa Kamo
>
> "I am the bone of my sword.
> Steel is my body,and fire is my blood.
> I have created over a thousand blades.
> Unknown to Death.
> Nor known to Life.
> Have withstood pain to create many weapons.
> Yet, those hands will never hold anyting.
> So as I pray, unlimited blade works."
>
> (Fate/Stay Night)
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>

I have Shinsengumi Shougenroku and many other Japanese references.
I also have Shinsengumi reference book which you can buy only at Hino-city.
The book was published by the group of people who study local history.
I read Japanese and have easier access to Hino-city (about 20 min from my
house) so if you guys need some reference for your researches, I may be able
to help.
Only problem is that I am not so good at English....


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Wow... I definitely could use your help.

By the way, could you please check whether the names are spelt right in the Okita Rintaro
article on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okita_Rintaro) and on the Okita Rintaro
discussion page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Okita_Rintaro)?

~Seven

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "k kobayakawa" wrote:
>
> I have Shinsengumi Shougenroku and many other Japanese references.
> I also have Shinsengumi reference book which you can buy only at Hino-city.
> The book was published by the group of people who study local history.
> I read Japanese and have easier access to Hino-city (about 20 min from my
> house) so if you guys need some reference for your researches, I may be able
> to help.
> Only problem is that I am not so good at English....
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I don't see any error:)



2006/6/24, Seven <nlf7@...>:

>
> Wow... I definitely could use your help.
>
> By the way, could you please check whether the names are spelt right in
> the Okita Rintaro
> article on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okita_Rintaro) and on
> the Okita Rintaro
> discussion page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Okita_Rintaro)?
>
> ~Seven
>
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com , "k kobayakawa"
> wrote:
> >
> > I have Shinsengumi Shougenroku and many other Japanese references.
> > I also have Shinsengumi reference book which you can buy only at
> Hino-city.
> > The book was published by the group of people who study local history.
> > I read Japanese and have easier access to Hino-city (about 20 min from
> my
> > house) so if you guys need some reference for your researches, I may be
> able
> > to help.
> > Only problem is that I am not so good at English....
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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( I don't see either: )

Mina san hajimemashite, rei de gozaimasu.

Watashi wa nihongo o benkyoushiteiru Indonesia jin desu.
Shinsengumi ga daisuki desu.
Karera no ikikata ni, makoto ni, kandou shiteorimasu.

Kono, SHQ no milis no okage de, iroiro no Shinsengumi no jouhou o oshietekudasatte, makoto ni, doumo arigatou gozaimashita.

Watashi wa, Shinsengumi ni tsuite ronbun o kaiteiru tokoro desu.
Korekaramo, yoroshiku onegai itashimasu.

Tokorode,"Moeyo Ken" wa shousetsu nanoni, rearity to onaji desuka ????
Soshite, Shinsengumi no chuukaku ni natta nowa, nannin desuka???

Kotaetekuremasenka ???
Shinsengumi no koto ga mada heta nanode,Doumo sumimasen!!!!!!



k kobayakawa <kobaya635@...> wrote:
I don't see any error:)

2006/6/24, Seven <nlf7@...>:

>
> Wow... I definitely could use your help.
>
> By the way, could you please check whether the names are spelt right in
> the Okita Rintaro
> article on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okita_Rintaro) and on
> the Okita Rintaro
> discussion page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Okita_Rintaro)?
>
> ~Seven
>
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com , "k kobayakawa"
> wrote:
> >
> > I have Shinsengumi Shougenroku and many other Japanese references.
> > I also have Shinsengumi reference book which you can buy only at
> Hino-city.
> > The book was published by the group of people who study local history.
> > I read Japanese and have easier access to Hino-city (about 20 min from
> my
> > house) so if you guys need some reference for your researches, I may be
> able
> > to help.
> > Only problem is that I am not so good at English....
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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Moeyo Ken wa fictional desu.
Ken-nosuke mo Osae mo Oyuki mo fiction desu.

Shinsengumi no chuukaku wa jiki ni yotte chigau to omoimasuga
Jisshitsu Shieikan group dewa naideshouka.
Shoki no dankai dewa soreni Serizawa group ga kuwawarimasu.


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Exactly! "Moeyo Ken" is fiction.

~Seven

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "k kobayakawa" wrote:
>
> Moeyo Ken wa fictional desu.
> Ken-nosuke mo Osae mo Oyuki mo fiction desu.
>
> Shinsengumi no chuukaku wa jiki ni yotte chigau to omoimasuga
> Jisshitsu Shieikan group dewa naideshouka.
> Shoki no dankai dewa soreni Serizawa group ga kuwawarimasu.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Seven, if you visit
http://www.shinsengumihq.com/bibliography2.htm

you will find a listing for Moeyo Ken and it's publication dates as
well as a notation which was there noting that, yes, it is fiction

if you visit
http://www.shinsengumihq.com/ShinsengumiBakumatsuTimeline.htm

you will notice an interesting pattern of the *re-publication of
Nagakura's "Shinsengumi Tenmatsui" in 1971
and Moeyo Ken in 1972

those major works released (or re-released) back to back greatly
impacted the population's view of the Shinsengumi

FICTION IS POWERFUL!

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Seven" wrote:
>
> Exactly! "Moeyo Ken" is fiction.
>
> ~Seven
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "k kobayakawa" wrote:
> >
> > Moeyo Ken wa fictional desu.
> > Ken-nosuke mo Osae mo Oyuki mo fiction desu.
> >
> > Shinsengumi no chuukaku wa jiki ni yotte chigau to omoimasuga
> > Jisshitsu Shieikan group dewa naideshouka.
> > Shoki no dankai dewa soreni Serizawa group ga kuwawarimasu.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>