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#2462 [2005-06-24 11:51:17]

What happened to the SHQ MessageBoard?

by niwashi_1

I found the Shinsengumi Headquarters message board
http://p076.ezboard.com/bshinsengumiheadquarters
not too long ago - just long enough to see that it had a bunch of
interesting stuff posted there. Unfortunately, before I had time to
go through and read all that interesting stuff, it started
disappearing. At first it was just some of the posts missing, then
all of the posts and many of the forums disappeared.

What's going on??? And is it going to get fixed?


On a marginally related note, I recently bought the first volume of
each of several different Shinsengumi manga. I was thinking of
writing up a little first-impression mini-review of each of them and
posting it on the messageboard (if it were still there). I guess I'll
post to the Yahoo group instead (although I generally like message
boards better than e-mail lists). Is the SHQ group or the
SHQ_Spy_Division group the better one to send reviews to?


Niwashi

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#2463 [2005-06-24 13:09:30]

Re: [SHQ] What happened to the SHQ MessageBoard?

by spiritus_saitou

Unfortunately, EZ-Board got hacked into and major damage done. *All* of the messageboards supported there were damaged, some completely unrecoverable. Secretary may have more up to date information about what they were doing to restore boards, but I think they've done all they could with back-ups that weren't damaged. In trying to better safeguard the system and repair it, I think they did some additional damage, too.

Cool idea with the reviews. Best place to send them is to this list, SHQ. The Spy Division is more for member and other fan fiction and art. ^_^

phil

niwashi_1 <labaker@...> wrote:
I found the Shinsengumi Headquarters message board
http://p076.ezboard.com/bshinsengumiheadquarters
not too long ago - just long enough to see that it had a bunch of
interesting stuff posted there. Unfortunately, before I had time to
go through and read all that interesting stuff, it started
disappearing. At first it was just some of the posts missing, then
all of the posts and many of the forums disappeared.

What's going on??? And is it going to get fixed?


On a marginally related note, I recently bought the first volume of
each of several different Shinsengumi manga. I was thinking of
writing up a little first-impression mini-review of each of them and
posting it on the messageboard (if it were still there). I guess I'll
post to the Yahoo group instead (although I generally like message
boards better than e-mail lists). Is the SHQ group or the
SHQ_Spy_Division group the better one to send reviews to?


Niwashi
















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#2468 [2005-07-01 11:34:03]

Re: What happened to the SHQ MessageBoard? + More Topics

by secretarytocapt3

Fujita Goro in another NHK Series (thank you TAMA for finding this!)

Not just a random Meiji Era cop with the same name in a TV show---
but our wolf! (use http://www.nifty.com/globalgate to translate)
http://www.nhk.or.jp/drama/archives/karakuri/index.html

series mentioned on a Japanese blog
see entry 2001/11/13
http://www.linkclub.or.jp/~swing/new_copy1.html

look around entry 3/13 (author of a Shinsengumi manga!!)
http://saitoumisaki.blog01.linkclub.jp/index.php?
blogid=829&archive=2005-03

I have looked EVERYWHERE for VCDS of this series in the USA---can't
find this series---I would watch it even without subs!

***Fujita Goro is comic relief in this series folks***he has a
problem involving fleas

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"The Meiji Confusion and The Last Shogun on Earth"
http://uk.geocities.com/rainforestwind/meiji3.htm

I have skimmed the Shinsengumi related pages and enjoyed the
webmaster's generalizations of "multiracial Shinsengumi fans" and
the various erroneous opinions they harbor (^_^). Through this list
I have met several people who have a very realistic view of the
Shinsengumi and they also enjoy their fictional spin-offs. What I
found to be very interesting about the site is the mixture of some
sound facts and plenty of opinions. I could not find the author's
list of textual sources (maybe there is a list---I just can't find
it). Since most of us can't time travel or do not know Japanese it
is necessary to look for books/articles written by those who know
more than we do. This is why I have tried to be thorough and
careful in citing my sources so if you wish you can double check my
own work, you CAN---establish a paper trail and giving credit where
it is due. For example the webmaster at one point said Nakajima
Nobori was enthusiastic about photography---as a Nakajima Nobori fan
I'd like to know where he got this detail. So these sites are useful
in gauging people's changing views but they may not be as helpful in
the long run if you want to dig deeper into the history.

His/her discussion in Shinsengumi opinions on foreigners is also
interesting.

[side note: Fujita Goro was assigned, at one point, to work the
Azabu area in Tokyo. Azabu was where many foreign missionaries
lived. The area during the Meiji Era was described in extreme terms
as very "good" due to the foreigners and also very "bad" due to the
high number of poor people (the missionaries proselytized and setup
orphanages and schools for the poor). Basically, later in life
Fujita Goro *had* to encounter foreigners through his work in Azabu,
at the Education Museum and later Tokyo Womens Normal School. It
would be interesting to learn how former Shinsengumi may have felt
about foreigners as time past.
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What happened to ShinsengumiMB.com?

As Spiritus Saitou mentioned, the board was severely damaged due to
someone hacking into ezboard.com. They were only able to restore
the earliest posts which consisted of the QUESTIONS. The board
shows and "evolution" of question, answer, speculation, more
speculation and puddles of fangirl drool over Shinsengumi eye
candy. Valuable info lost included the VERY BEST links to Japanese
sites, cosplay advice from our very own Okita as well as photo close
ups of sword damage (you can't really find many good pics online)
and valuable information from momomanjyuu2004 (some of her info is
on this list simply "search"). Ezboard completed the restoral
process which resulted in the NUMBER of messages coming back mostly
with the notice "unable to restore" (*_*).

Popular threads such as the love lives of the Shinsengumi, ghost
stories and other "rumors" can be recalled from memory---so please
post questions here.

http://www.shinsengumimb.com gets many hits so I decided to use the
domain as a portal to this mailing list.

Please please contribute anything such as articles, fanart or your
own wisdom on topics like cosplay or movie reviews….SHQ.com is a
crossroads for many Shinsengumi "fields"…you may also contact
SHQ.com by emailing shinsengumihq(a)yahoo.com

So *niwashi_1* we would be very happy to post your manga reviews to
the site

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Some links and Info Recovered from the Messageboard

Japanese pages may be "translated sort of" via
http://www.nifty.com/globalgate

Useful links I was able to gather:

Hijikata Toshizo
http://www.japan-101.com/history/toshizo_hijikata.htm

Japanese Sword
http://www.hi-net.zaq.ne.jp/osaru/e_index.htm

Kamon
http://www.harimaya.com/o_kamon1/buke_keizu/bk_1ran.html

Pictures of places connected to the Shinsengumi (Japanese)
http://www.fc.a-vst.jp/loca/shinsen/shinsen.html

Constantly updated page on the "appearance" and personality of our
boys in blue (Japanese)

http://g1342122.at.infoseek.co.jp/bakumatu_fubou.htm

***anyone who plans to build an Okita shrine should study this page
and try to get the information translated

***this site is excellent because the webmaster cites his textual
sources so you can learn where the information comes from

http://www.toshizo.com/jiken/jibody01.html#05

is a remarkable page which records various episodes and the most
fascinating details on the medical check ups (Japanese)

Rosters Arranged Chronologically??? (not 100% sure)
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/makoto/sosiki/sosiki.htm

Meiji Era Timeline
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~fljpm/chron/jc31.meiji.pre-prm.html

Katsu Kaishu Article
http://swordforum.com/articles/japanesehistory/katsukaishu.php

Researchable historical detail/possibility which needs to be
*confirmed* is that the famous photographer FELIX BEATO took the
photos of Kondou Isami, Hijikata, the purported image of Okita.
FELIX BEATO photographs have been published all over the place.
Someone could definitely pursue whether or not he took the
photographs of these three famous members of the Shinsengumi.

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Itou Kashitaro Doll
http://mitsune.cot.jp/Essays/itoh-photos.html
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*New* Japanese Fanfic (use http://www.nifty.com/globalgate)

Saitou+Itou+Okita in an alternate universe

http://homepage3.nifty.com/sineitai/html/bun-s-kaisha04.htm

Saitou tries to get a job in a new company

http://homepage3.nifty.com/sineitai/html/bun-s-kaisha05.htm

for our new members, search this site and you will find some good
tours of historical spots complete with directions!

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For Fans of Takagi (Fujita) Tokio(ko)

Her father was a "metsuke"

Learn more about metsuke here
http://www.e-budokai.com/hibuki/police.htm

Basically her daddy was a member of law enforcement

***her info sheet is being updated, AGAIN, and will become a page at
SHQ.com linked from her husband's profile and the women's brigade
page, I keep finding more and more information on her foreign
(American) co-workers at Tokyo Women's Normal School (her workplace
in the Meiji era). I am still trying to find more English language
sources on Aizu's Teruhime (Princess Teru was her boss basically
before 1868), but I've had no luck

Learn More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsudaira_Teru
If you have questions about Teruhime please post---Hirotada Tokugawa
is a professed fan of this fascinating woman

Don't forget Aizu's Women's Brigade
http://www.shinsengumihq.com/WB.htm

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The very loud Shinsengumi Restaurant in California
http://www.mindspring.com/~bwong3/shinsenr.htm
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Quiz thing you can post on your Blog/Livejournal/Greatestjournal
"Which Characteristic From the Samurai Code Matches You Best? (You
may find out your best trait)"
http://shortu.com/jja
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Trivia

Question---Why did Meiji era cops wear white gloves?

Answer---So they could take them off with their teeth and drive the
ladies wild? Recall the TV series Rurouni Kenshin's Saitou in the
other title sequence

.....Not exactly.....

The answer lies in the development of the Japanese police. From the
1870s to 1879 (Toshiyoshi Kawaji dies) the French model was
adopted. In the 1880s onward led by Yamagata Aritomo the German
police model was implemented. The gloves come from France's Eugène
François Vidocq who was a career criminal who later became a super
spy for the police (his criminal ways later led to his downfall).
Vidocq had a team of former criminals who worked with him. The
public saw the police as criminals in uniform. The police in turn
wore white gloves because gloves prevented them from picking
pockets. Bare hands are needed to determine if the victim is
carrying valuables. Bare hands (skin) provides the traction needed
to remove those valuables.

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#2469 [2005-07-01 16:13:00]

Re: What happened to the SHQ MessageBoard?

by happywanderer_2

So that is what happened.

I had wandered off to do a little field work and when I came back I
could not find my way back into the site. It is going to take
forever to get caught up on the posts(sigh). However, I have found
the time to post a few screen captures from the NHK drama at the 'Spy
Division'. And yes, they are a little Saito-centric....but it think
that will please several of the members.

Did anyone else order a copy of Hillsborough's new book? Has anyone
else had their shipment delayed? Again! And here I thought it would
be waiting for me upon my return to civilization. @#$^%!

**stalks off to corner in disgust**

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, spiritus saitou
wrote:
> Unfortunately, EZ-Board got hacked into and major damage done.
*All* of the messageboards supported there were damaged, some
completely unrecoverable. Secretary may have more up to date
information about what they were doing to restore boards, but I think
they've done all they could with back-ups that weren't damaged. In
trying to better safeguard the system and repair it, I think they did
some additional damage, too.
>
> Cool idea with the reviews. Best place to send them is to this
list, SHQ. The Spy Division is more for member and other fan fiction
and art. ^_^
>
> phil
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> niwashi_1 wrote:
> I found the Shinsengumi Headquarters message board
> http://p076.ezboard.com/bshinsengumiheadquarters
> not too long ago - just long enough to see that it had a bunch of
> interesting stuff posted there. Unfortunately, before I had time
to
> go through and read all that interesting stuff, it started
> disappearing. At first it was just some of the posts missing, then
> all of the posts and many of the forums disappeared.
>
> What's going on??? And is it going to get fixed?
>
>
> On a marginally related note, I recently bought the first volume of
> each of several different Shinsengumi manga. I was thinking of
> writing up a little first-impression mini-review of each of them
and
> posting it on the messageboard (if it were still there). I guess
I'll
> post to the Yahoo group instead (although I generally like message
> boards better than e-mail lists). Is the SHQ group or the
> SHQ_Spy_Division group the better one to send reviews to?
>
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